Is it just me or have SF vanished?

minikin

TheCitizen wrote: »

The self preservation society otherwise known as FFG are strong in this thread.

I'm neither FF nor FG, just a realist, good reactionary assumption though!
We can thank our lucky stars that the grown ups were still in power when this virus hit... what would SF have done?
Run away from power because things got too ouchy?

walshb

minikin wrote: »

I'm neither FF nor FG, just a realist, good reactionary assumption though!

I am the exact same...

No party affiliations whatsoever. I tend to warm to nice people, thoughtful, caring, kind and gentle...firm, but fair people. I just never get that vibe from those who seem to push for SF.......

MLM comes across as someone who is kind and caring and good and honest and decent.....so do some other SF members.....the party as a whole just attracts so many the opposite...

Take social media....

I don't think any other following seems to be so aggressive and crude and rough in their voicings of support for their party like you see with SF; a real toerag rough element online. Every second word is a swear word, and no bother at all calling people horrible and vile names online...dog eat dog classless engagement

But SF seem to warm to this, or at least, not be eager to get away from it...

Shefwedfan

TheCitizen wrote: »

The self preservation society otherwise known as FFG are strong in this thread.

Its great isnt it:p

tikkahunter

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0428/1135350-covid19-coronavirus-politics/

Again stating what is going to be done anyway and when it’s done claim it was her idea .

An all a Ireland solution?? SF weren’t too quick to find an all Ireland solution when we start locking down south.

Fann Linn

tikkahunter wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0428/1135350-covid19-coronavirus-politics/

Again stating what is going to be done anyway and when it’s done claim it was her idea .

An all a Ireland solution?? SF weren’t too quick to find an all Ireland solution when we start locking down south.

Why? Is that going to be done? Just wondering as the cabinet never agreed anything today but are to meet again on Friday.

tikkahunter

tikkahunter wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0428/1135350-covid19-coronavirus-politics/

Again stating what is going to be done anyway and when it’s done claim it was her idea .

An all a Ireland solution?? SF weren’t too quick to find an all Ireland solution when we start locking down south.

Would have taught a constructive input,would be a positive??

Shefwedfan

Fann Linn wrote: »

Why? Is that going to be done? Just wondering as the cabinet never agreed anything today but are to meet again on Friday.

Seriously, do you really think nobody in government has had a discussion about how to get out of lockdown?


She is stating the obvious and then trying to take credit....

Fann Linn

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Would have taught a constructive input,would be a positive??

None of that here please. As Charlie Bird said earlier just put on the green jersey and don't ask questions.

Shefwedfan

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Seriously, do you really think nobody in government has had a discussion about how to get out of lockdown?


She is stating the obvious and then trying to take credit....

Kind of reads like critism.for sake of critism there chap

Fann Linn

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Seriously, do you really think nobody in government has had a discussion about how to get out of lockdown?


She is stating the obvious and then trying to take credit....

So you don't want input from others is that it?

Shefwedfan

tikkahunter wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0428/1135350-covid19-coronavirus-politics/

Again stating what is going to be done anyway and when it’s done claim it was her idea .

An all a Ireland solution?? SF weren’t too quick to find an all Ireland solution when we start locking down south.

Someone made a good point, did she send the same letter to Northern Assembly :p:p:p:p

Fann Linn

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Someone made a good point, did she send the same letter to Northern Assembly :p:p:p:p

Perhaps she did.

Shefwedfan

Fann Linn wrote: »

So you don't want input from , others is that it?

SHe was invited to daily updates


Would she not just tell them at that? why the f**k she need to send a letter and splash it all over twitter

Fann Linn

Fann Linn wrote: »

None of that here please. As Charlie Bird said earlier just put on the green jersey and don't ask questions.

Ya....seems truely bizzare,we arent allowed to qs anything government is doing

Fann Linn

Shefwedfan wrote: »

SHe was invited to daily updates


Would she not just tell them at that? why the f**k she need to send a letter and splash it all over twitter

To spell it out for them.

Shefwedfan

Fann Linn wrote: »

To spell it out for them.

SHe doesnt seem to be as concerned abnout the North where SF are in actual power sharing.....

Fann Linn

Shefwedfan wrote: »

SHe doesnt seem to be as concerned abnout the North where SF are in actual power sharing.....

Tbh Im not too concerned myself. I wish the border was tighter but after that my only concern is down here.

Shefwedfan

Fann Linn wrote: »

Tbh Im not too concerned myself. I wish the border was tighter but after that my only concern is down here.

Well from a SF point of view it should be a concern, they are in government and should give a good view of what they would be like in government here


Do you not think?


How do you think SF have managed the virus in the North? where they have power to make changes

Fann Linn

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Well from a SF point of view it should be a concern, they are in government and should give a good view of what they would be like in government here


Do you not think?


How do you think SF have managed the virus in the North? where they have power to make changes

Off to a poor start as per rest of UK.

Shefwedfan

Fann Linn wrote: »

Off to a poor start as per rest of UK.

Woudl Mary Lou not be more concerned with NI that Ireland then?


They are supposed to be power sharing. Not writing letters to send to a government in Ireland.....

smurgen

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Woudl Mary Lou not be more concerned with NI that Ireland then?


They are supposed to be power sharing. Not writing letters to send to a government in Ireland.....

Shouldn't Lieo have been telling the Brits to get their ship in order regarding Covid? Did he attempt at all to get a consensus with the UK for how to treat it given the air traffic etc between us and the UK?

Randy Archer

Ah, not sure Mary, as President of the 32 county SF party has a leg to stand on calling the shots on her Belfast Northern Colleagues . Sure it was them who put her in the position that she is in, not just Jarry . We’d have believed that Pierce Doherty would be the man for the South ,with his longer and more successful results

Pierce first contest was for EU Parliament in 2004, huge area to cover, relatively unknown, scored a very respectable tally on a losing effort - the whole point was more to get him known. He scored the td got on first time of asking in 2007. Donegal would be a hard place to win, even for a Shinner back the . You always saw ff and FG return a man. Ff had Pat the Cope Gallagher and then there was ex sf man Thomas Pringle to contend with (was he still with sf then? ) I know Donegal was split then, but the north of the county still had Minister for Fun Dr Jim McDaid who was a good constituency man - I think he ran for Europe in 2004 too and I think he lost his seat in 2007 (Dana was also running for Europe and Marian Harkin in Sligo was knocking around and she turned out to have a formidable team for Europe over the next 10 years )

On the other hand, while Mary Lou got Europe on first time of asking, Mary struggled for the Dáil, she had started in West Dublin in 2007 , parachuted into Bertie land in 2011 and just got in on the fourth count (no waffling about 1st preferences from Shinners then)

Mary got the nod from Northerners ,as future leader ,so she isn’t in a position to tell them and Michelle O’Neill what to do. Sf do partitionist when it suits ala the “sit u achion,is different up here” . Up North ,Shinners are reasonably prudent on the budget , not so socialist give away all (bar the stupid stance on the language act that would waste millions ) but down here it’s free this and that for the wurker

Like all this with all Island treatment , there is always a huge row between Belfast and Dublin and jealously of control eg FAI split from IFA (nothing really to do with 1921 and civil war, more about team selection and venues for the FA Cup ), eg amateur boxing where multiple time All Ireland winner ,Eamonn McGee, whose selection from the Olympic team was vetoed by the Ulster boxing council (despite being from up there but wrong side of the track so to speak ) .....

I recall ,back around 1999 and 2003/2004 when Sinn Fein were really trying to make a push for respectability Down south , they bring down their northern base grass root workers, not just around the border towns like Dundalk but even down the Midlands (Longford was kind to Republican SF ,since O’Braidgh was there ) . Some of them were rough as **** and many probably did time in prison for IRA membership, locals ,even sf members who were starting up the cummans resented the Nordies coming down as they couldn’t vote in the South. Even Dundalk of all towns ,locals had issues .

We saw the **** stir SDLP and SF kicked up when FF laughably flirted with the idea of moving their brand up to the north ..

I can see why Mary Lou or any Southern SF leader wouldn’t think it’s wise to touch the Nordies turf. There’s enough to deal with down here anyway , and party supporters and grass root workers in the South would expect MAry Lou to concentrate on the area that voted for her and her colleagues. We still love them TDs fixing the road after all

Have very little time for Sf , but expecting Mary Lou or any Southerner to get involved or have a say on NOrdie issues ,when they already have leaders up there ain’t fair . We all resent when Michelle O’Neill comes down here ,sticking her nose in, likewise have a big big problem with Anderstown Road dictating to their southern TDs what to say and do

ThunbergsAreGo

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Would have taught a constructive input,would be a positive??

Which part is constructive? Why the need to post it on Twitter?

Why are politicians obsessed with letters? Why can't they use email

Shefwedfan

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Which part is constructive? Why the need to post it on Twitter?

Why are politicians obsessed with letters? Why can't they use email

None of it is constructive

Mary Lou done a good interview on Friday, apart from the up da ra part....reminded me she is good politician

Few days later and she is back to this c**p....she should have went over and stood beside Gemma and that gang of loonies because she isn’t much better. The “look at me, look at me” desperation from both of them is getting a bit pathetic now

Plus the letter is never sent, load of PR bulls**t

If I was in government and someone asked me about Mary Lou letter, I would just respond “it’s not the 80’s, send me an email and I will read it”

threeball

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Which part is constructive? Why the need to post it on Twitter?

Why are politicians obsessed with letters? Why can't they use email

Just saw this twitter post on the news. Talk about stating the bleedin obvious. You'd have thought that no one had thought of these amazingly perceptive points over the last 6 weeks rather than sitting round scratching their holes.
Well done Mary, the hero we need, we just don't know it. Fcukin muppet.

ThunbergsAreGo

ThunbergsAreGo wrote: »

Which part is constructive? Why the need to post it on Twitter?

Why are politicians obsessed with letters? Why can't they use email

I taught the pints she put forward were constructive,and fairly reasonable??

I guess twitter is.a new age thing,so need move with times??


The reason for letters and politiams,is they are impossible to hide in freedom of info requests (where as emails often require trawls to find and thus can be hidden/buried) boring answer i know,but there ya have it

Shefwedfan

Shefwedfan wrote: »

If I was in government and someone asked me about Mary Lou letter, I would just respond “it’s not the 80’s, send me an email and I will read it”

By this logic ff/fg should've sent a email to labour/greens/rural indos and not released a document for public consumption in relation to government formation??


Like,if your going to critise,perhaps consider making it valid?

Mortelaro

[Deleted User] wrote: »

By this logic ff/fg should've sent a email to labour/greens/rural indos and not released a document for public consumption in relation to government formation??


Like,if your going to critise,perhaps consider making it valid?

In fairness, they probably did email the document to whomever prior to releasing it
I'd be surprised if they didn't
That document wasn't anything classified anyway, just parameters
Fairly very wide parameters

Mortelaro

Mortelaro wrote: »

In fairness, they probably did email the document to whomever prior to releasing it
I'd be surprised if they didn't
That document wasn't anything classified anyway, just parameters
Fairly very wide parameters

Aye.....im not critising it,quite like to consume such info(im pure bore really!!)


Just think its pure hyprocrisy to critise mary-lou for essentially doing same thing??

Shefwedfan

threeball wrote: »

Just saw this twitter post on the news. Talk about stating the bleedin obvious. You'd have thought that no one had thought of these amazingly perceptive points over the last 6 weeks rather than sitting round scratching their holes.
Well done Mary, the hero we need, we just don't know it. Fcukin muppet.

What is worse is the SF supporters thinking this is great work by Mary and her band of merry men!!


It was like they got in a room, put on top of white boards: Lets make the most obvious recommendation so we can have zero kick back
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