Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Jinglejangle69

Mortelaro wrote: »

To be fair,FG have advocated Sinn Féin take their Westminster seats(something they didnt promise) and Sinn Féin have complained FG want to keep them out of government (which may or may not mean they might in limited circumstances share power even with FG,there was a hint in the three way debate)
That's not hypocrisy in my opinion
Mary Lou does actually get on with Leo,despite the punch and Judy
There is a mutual respect independent of policy
So you never know what might happen in future (not this Dáil)
Coalition's are not manifestos
They're at at least an attempt to get some of the promised done

They get on?

Edgware

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

They get on?

Mutual respect! I don't know how you came to that conclusion

Mortelaro

Edgware wrote: »

Mutual respect! I don't know how you came to that conclusion

They do actually get on

Jinglejangle69

Mortelaro wrote: »

They do actually get on

Didn't leo have a dig at her in the Dáil a while ago and Mary Lou walked out.

I don't think they get on.

Mortelaro

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Didn't leo have a dig at her in the Dáil a while ago and Mary Lou walked out.

I don't think they get on.

Quite a while ago
They've got over that long ago

Jinglejangle69

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Didn't leo have a dig at her in the Dáil a while ago and Mary Lou walked out.

I don't think they get on.

No. She was ordered to leave by the Ceann Comhairle because she wouldn’t sit down and shut up. She kept mouthing off at Leo on her was out.

Dank Janniels

Its been 3months since the election, how come no1 is talking about how Sinn Fein are forming a government? Who are they talking to, what plans or programs for government are they planning?

Dank Janniels

Its been 3months since the election, how come no1 is talking about how Sinn Fein are forming a government? Who are they talking to, what plans or programs for government are they planning?

JohnnyFlash

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Didn't leo have a dig at her in the Dáil a while ago and Mary Lou walked out.

I don't think they get on.

Mary Lou and Leo get on well.

nigeldaniel

Did Mary Lou not call Leo a nasty name after he got the Taoiseach job... Leo can be polite but I do not think for a minute they get along.

Mortelaro

Theres absolutely no malice between them or bad blood,they do get on
A lot of that comes out of northern Ireland talks over the last while and during Brexit

Zico

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

Mary Lou and Leo get on well.

Probably played hockey together.

Galwayguy35

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Its been 3months since the election, how come no1 is talking about how Sinn Fein are forming a government? Who are they talking to, what plans or programs for government are they planning?

Imelda Munster was on yesterday saying ML for Taoiseach again and bladdering about building the same amount of houses as before the election.

Seems to have gone above her head that the country is in avery different place now.

Although Shortall is just as bad, they should just stop talking to herself and Murphy they are more bother than they are worth.

Hubertj

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Imelda Munster was on yesterday saying ML for Taoiseach again and bladdering about building the same amount of houses as before the election.

Seems to have gone above her head that the country is in avery different place now.

Although Shortall is just as bad, they should just stop talking to herself and Murphy they are more bother than they are worth.

I saw that piece last night and it was a bit of a car crash... Munster seemed very unprepared.....

tipptom

Galwayguy35 wrote: »

Imelda Munster was on yesterday saying ML for Taoiseach again and bladdering about building the same amount of houses as before the election.

Seems to have gone above her head that the country is in avery different place now.

Although Shortall is just as bad, they should just stop talking to herself and Murphy they are more bother than they are worth.

You think that the housing plan should be abandoned?

I would have thought it should be stepped up with more urgency than ever.

Jinglejangle69

I see Michelle O Néill has criticised the governments plan for easing restrictions.

Like is she actually for real?

I suppose when you aren't doing the job you're supposed to you get bored.

An unbelievable party.

James Brown

tipptom wrote: »

You think that the housing plan should be abandoned?

I would have thought it should be stepped up with more urgency than ever.

We can't afford more FF/FG self enrichment policies be it housing during a housing crisis or private clinics/Ireland on call during a global pandemic.
They see opportunity in crisis. When they should be looking out for the public they are not. When things get historically bad they use it like a smoke screen to look after their own. Despicable.

Former Anglo board member at the helm no less.

The HSE has hired the recruitment company CPL, which provides subcontractors to Facebook and other large employers, to support the “Be on Call for Ireland” recruitment drive.

CPL has been recruited to contract the workers “due to the strain on existing HSE resources to meet the Covid-19 challenge,” the HSE spokeswoman said in a statement.

The publicly funded health service declined to disclose what it was paying the private company, saying that the rate of pay “for its services for this project is commercially sensitive.”
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/almost-2-000-working-or-job-ready-through-ireland-s-call-recruitment-drive-1.4243829

It's the height of hypocrisy to read FG flag wavers talking about the bad sums or poor financials of other parties when you see what FG are at. Losing the tax payer money by hook or by crook, (pun intended).

tipptom

tipptom wrote: »

You think that the housing plan should be abandoned?

I would have thought it should be stepped up with more urgency than ever.

Now that AirBnB lets have returned to their rightful private lets, housing isn’t such a big issue.

[Deleted User]

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Now that AirBnB lets have returned to their rightful private lets, housing isn’t such a big issue.

Is this not just pretending the problem has gone away,a year to 18 months,world will be back the same as before??


An econmic improvement,like rain,will always happen again,pretending the same thing wont happen as regards air.bnbs is like thinking it wont rain again during a drought imo


Poor medium to long term planning has long dogged ireland,looks like its to continue under another ff/fg government

James Brown

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Now that AirBnB lets have returned to their rightful private lets, housing isn’t such a big issue.

Where are you getting this from? My own anecdotal evidence suggests everything is on hold or has slowed to a crawl because of the pandemic. Do you have evidence on homeless families just not being homeless anymore or people unable to afford a roof of their own suddenly having no problems?
The so called 'charity industry' got some families off the list and into private rentals a few weeks back, which is great.

Bishop of hope

[Deleted User] wrote: »

Is this not just pretending the problem has gone away,a year to 18 months,world will be back the same as before??


An econmic improvement,like rain,will always happen again,pretending the same thing wont happen as regards air.bnbs is like thinking it wont rain again during a drought imo


Poor medium to long term planning has long dogged ireland,looks like its to continue under another ff/fg government

You can expect the cost of new builds to increase dramatically too if the greens enter Govt. Highly unlikely you will get pp with a chimney in a couple of years and the extra cost of providing green heat will drive prices upward.
There will be no cheap housing for anyone, affordable will only be for the better off

JohnnyFlash

If SF were to get into Government then would their representatives start calling the country by its proper title?

Like you wouldn’t want a SF minister of trade and employment for the Republic of Ireland heading overseas and refusing to give the proper title of the country he/she is a minister of.

James Brown

JohnnyFlash wrote: »

If SF were to get into Government then would their representatives start calling the country by its proper title?

Like you wouldn’t want a SF minister of trade and employment for the Republic of Ireland heading overseas and refusing to give the proper title of the country he/she is a minister of.

It would be like voting for them and them not going to Westminister. People likely know what they are voting for.
When abroad I tell people I'm Irish which they take to mean as the island of Ireland. I've found this in Scotland and England too.

tipptom

Bishop of hope wrote: »

You can expect the cost of new builds to increase dramatically too if the greens enter Govt. Highly unlikely you will get pp with a chimney in a couple of years and the extra cost of providing green heat will drive prices upward.
There will be no cheap housing for anyone, affordable will only be for the better off

You think FF/FG will care about what price it will cost the taxpayer to build houses as long as they get one more crack at power and another chance to throw more goodies to their Owen o Callaghan/Denis o Brien etc charity's?

Edgware

tipptom wrote: »

You think FF/FG will care about what price it will cost the taxpayer to build houses as long as they get one more crack at power and another chance to throw more goodies to their Owen o Callaghan/Denis o Brien etc charity's?

Usual rubbish from you. Come back with something thats relevant

Galwayguy35

tipptom wrote: »

You think that the housing plan should be abandoned?

I would have thought it should be stepped up with more urgency than ever.

The economy has ground to a halt, we are borrowing to keep the lights on and pay for the 20% of the population who are out of work.

You do realise the election promises were based on the state of the country last January and Febuary?

all about the mane

tipptom wrote: »

You think FF/FG will care about what price it will cost the taxpayer to build houses as long as they get one more crack at power and another chance to throw more goodies to their Owen o Callaghan/Denis o Brien etc charity's?

O'Callaghan died 3 years ago...

all about the mane

Bowie wrote: »

Where are you getting this from? My own anecdotal evidence suggests everything is on hold or has slowed to a crawl because of the pandemic. Do you have evidence on homeless families just not being homeless anymore or people unable to afford a roof of their own suddenly having no problems?
The so called 'charity industry' got some families off the list and into private rentals a few weeks back, which is great.

Another shinner was on here the other day saying that the collapse of airbnb had solved the homeless crisis. One of ye has gone off script.

Edgware

all about the mane wrote: »

O'Callaghan died 3 years ago...

Dont let the truth get in the way of a good rant

blanch152

Bowie wrote: »

Where are you getting this from? My own anecdotal evidence suggests everything is on hold or has slowed to a crawl because of the pandemic. Do you have evidence on homeless families just not being homeless anymore or people unable to afford a roof of their own suddenly having no problems?
The so called 'charity industry' got some families off the list and into private rentals a few weeks back, which is great.

Your own anecdotal evidence? Do you have something to back that up, or are you just kite-flying?

The charity industry isn't "so-called", there are an awful lot of high-paid fat cats benefitting from the charity industry. Rehab wasn't the half of it.