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Is it just me or have SF vanished?
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Personally didn't get the big kerfuffle over leo having a few cans in the park, man was entitled to a day in the sun with his pals on a day off.
However, there's a bit of irony in that post, because I seen very little people trying to use the funeral of Garda Horkan as a means to score political points.
Quite clearly there was some protocols broken by certain individuals at Bobby Storey's funeral.
But so too were protocols broken at Garda Normans.
There's no telescopic lens camera trickery going on there, just members of a community United in grief to show their respects to a valued member of the community.
The same could be said for Storey, people might argue over their differences in politics, but that's their problems.
Surely there's not going to be one set of ridicule for one group of mourners, and a hall pass for the other?
I agree mostly.
But if you look at the optics it's different with regards to politicians, and political messages.
Context and perception.
The general public like to show and pay their respects. No argument or fault attached to them as such from me.
I've stood in a few funeral processions myself since lockdown that weren't strictly social distant adherent.
But our political leaders need to show, leadership is all I have to say on the matter really.
Tbf the unfortunate gardas funeral cortege broke restrictions too indeed.
And Rip Bobby Storey BTW, an important figure in the peace process by all accounts.0 -
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So restrictions apply if you are going to the funeral of an 'evil criminal' but not when you are going to the funeral of a Garda? Wouldn't you just love it if that rubbish comment 'was left aside'.One was a funeral for a Garda killed in the line of duty.
The other was a funeral for an ordinary citizen who was an evil criminal. I see a distinction, but leave that aside
, the main point is the example being shown by political leaders. There was no reason for Mary-Lou and Michelle O'Neill to be at that funeral. Bobby Storey wasn't a politician, he wasn't a public servant, he was an ordinary citizen and the turnout in full of SF public representatives was completely over the top, unnecessary, and arrogantly showing two fingers to ordinary people who couldn't mourn their own.
It wasn't any where near a 'full turnout of SF public reps.'
Clearly the photo's seem to show that restrictions were broken as other phots have shown at other points in this pandemic.
I think SF could have done a lot better yesterday and I said it from the get go here. BUT I have to note that to my knowledge the only instance of breaking of regs that you have criticised have been whenever SF have trangressed.
As hypocritical as it gets.0 -
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FrancieBrady wrote: »So restrictions apply if you are going to the funeral of an 'evil criminal' but not when you are going to the funeral of a Garda? Wouldn't you just love it if that rubbish comment 'was left aside'.
It wasn't any where near a 'full turnout of SF public reps.'
Clearly the photo's seem to show that restrictions were broken as other phots have shown at other points in this pandemic.
I think SF could have done a lot better yesterday and I said it from the get go here. BUT I have to note that to my knowledge the only instance of breaking of regs that you have criticised have been whenever SF have trangressed.
As hypocritical as it gets.
You and others spent days and post after post about Leo and his park thing, his speech, criticising it and him to the last for his insensitivities.
Christ on a bike lads where's your sensitivities now.
Are any of you prepared to state that Mary Lou and Pearse and Michelle should have a bit of cop on and show leadership instead of what went on yesterday.
Taking the crowd out of it, focusing on the politicians that were at least talking of being in govt, even Taoiseach at one stage, they were virtually sticking their fingers up at the people who suffered loss were ill and are afraid of the virus still let alone the ones who have died.
They could have had a teleconference with the family to express their sorrows or turned up and visited them privately, there was plenty of time since his death.
They could have taken out a full page ad in all the papers and on social media to highlight his career and uligise him and his achievements.
I add to my list of stupid leaders now, in line with Trump and Johnson, the leadership of the Sinn féin party, Marylou MC Donald, Pearse Doherty and Michelle O Néill at least.0 -
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That doesn't hold water though because its all do as I say but I won't do what I say stuff with the legislators present
The PSNI will probably tippy toe around this,pragmatism will win
That still won't make it fair though
He clearly said, had it been Sunday then none of the SF people from the south would have been there.
The restrictions are relaxing. It is nothing like it was even two weeks ago.
But good to see the usual ****e will prevail...PSNI engaged and consulted in the organisation and have no issues...'ah that's just them being pragmatic and saving de peace process'. 0 -
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FrancieBrady wrote: »He clearly said, had it been Sunday then none of the SF people from the south would have been there.
The restrictions are relaxing. It is nothing like it was even two weeks ago.
But good to see the usual ****e will prevail...PSNI engaged and consulted in the organisation and have no issues...'ah that's just them being pragmatic and saving de peace process'.
You don't get the optics of this being bad or are Republicans excused from bad optics?0 -
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I most certainly did reference the BBC regarding the 10 people
I said later that drivetime were reporting that the BBC were reporting that
So now I'm dishonest for having posted the guidance in full?
And I did say where I got that the BBC were reporting the more than 10 people
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Both of your statements are wrong on what I said and you've the cheek to mention honesty after that :eek:
Jaysis
Tony Holahans press conferences
Ignore them all you like but they're a perfect example of where you are wrong when you try to say zooms don't distort distances, they do
Or anyone that disagrees with you it seems to me or in this case provides an inconveniently irrefutable bit of zoom lens evidence on distance distortion
Can you prove the type of lens used? Is it not a bunch or those lens make people look closer than they are? 0 -
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well he wasnt. We DO know where 50 grand of that money ended up (the only money they found). It was in an RUC leisure centre - probably as payment.
Or do you believe the hilarious assumption that the IRA sneaked into a heavily guarded building and planted it?0 -
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