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Is it just me or have SF vanished?

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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    I think they apologised for the hurt caused by the breaches.

    As I said before I think it a sad indictment that people are asking mourners to apologise for going to a funeral.
    There have been several high profile funerals during the pandemic, I didn't say a thing about anybody who went to them and I am not starting now.

    Very principled of you Francie, you wouldn't even joke about such things, would you?

    Just for annoyance sake, have a read of this.

    https://m.independent.ie/opinion/comment/we-should-be-grateful-to-sinn-fein-for-reminding-the-people-of-its-true-colours-39346401.html


  • Registered Users Posts: 13,365 ✭✭✭✭McMurphy


    I see even Gene Kerrigan taking a pop at SF today in the Sindo. And a strong piece from Máiría Cahill, a woman whose name SF and its online patsies did their best to try and drag through the mud.

    I think you referred to him as something along the lines of "a champagne socialist professional whinger" that "no-one listened to" John (words might not be precise, but I'm.not far away)

    Anyways, nice to see his opinions on things matters again.

    Here he is giving his opinion on something yesterday..

    https://twitter.com/GeneKerrigan/status/1280174416538800129?s=19


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    Political fallout continues a week on and a nurse not too happy either and Michelle continues, to Brazen it out shall we say.

    https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/nurse-reports-sinn-fein-mlas-to-police-over-storey-funeral-as-stormont-parties-to-unite-to-demand-apology-39345981.html


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Political fallout continues a week on and a nurse not too happy either and Michelle continues, to Brazen it out shall we say.

    https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/nurse-reports-sinn-fein-mlas-to-police-over-storey-funeral-as-stormont-parties-to-unite-to-demand-apology-39345981.html

    The police are already investigating as you know a few days noe and haven't even spoke to MON so they must be real interested


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Very principled of you Francie, you wouldn't even joke about such things, would you?

    Just for annoyance sake, have a read of this.

    https://m.independent.ie/opinion/comment/we-should-be-grateful-to-sinn-fein-for-reminding-the-people-of-its-true-colours-39346401.html

    wow - the indo slagging off SF ...who'd a thunk that could happen :rolleyes:


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    Cancelling the cremations is the worst aspect. Same as not allowing more than tiny numbers to attend Mass and Protestant services in rural areas, it is majorly pissing people off. Especially when they have north Korean type event in the middle of it.


    Arrogance. And they don't even realise that is what it comes across there as they have developed the self awareness of a turnip.

    Any little thing that happens to them or any criticism is occasion of self pitying whinge fest. Think they can do whatever the fk they want if it benefits themselves.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro


    Very principled of you Francie, you wouldn't even joke about such things, would you?

    Just for annoyance sake, have a read of this.

    https://m.independent.ie/opinion/comment/we-should-be-grateful-to-sinn-fein-for-reminding-the-people-of-its-true-colours-39346401.html

    Its very Salient
    leader of this country's Opposition then boasted that she would have attended the funeral, even if she was Taoiseach, was a chilling reminder of just how important it was to keep her away from government. Surely even those who were happy to engage in some recreational amnesia and forget the carnage caused by its military wing will have winced at the footage of so many senior politicians wilfully ignoring the social distancing rules?

    Or have people so greedily swigged from the Sinn Féin/IRA Kool-Aid that they are prepared to forgive even that?

    The fact that Belfast City Council was yesterday forced to make a grovelling apology to eight families who were denied the right to attend a loved one's cremation on the same day so many people turned out for Storey's send-off would be humiliating for anyone else.

    But this is not a party that deals in humiliation and if McDonald and O'Neill's subsequent and very half-hearted comments are taken at face value, they don't really do apologies either.

    The pair of them offered virtually identical non-apology apologies, expressing regret for any 'hurt' that may have been caused to grieving families who played by the rules and stayed away from the cemetery.

    It was weapons-grade hypocrisy from a party which knows more about weapons than most.

    Its supporters have been quick to use the usual Sinn Féin playbook - when criticised, play the victim and start squealing about the media and west Brits.

    However, to all but the most committed Shinnerbot, it was an appalling sight - a show of force masquerading as an act of compassion for their 'friend'.

    After all, lots of people have died since the arrival of Covid-19, and they were all friends of someone.


  • Registered Users Posts: 27,940 ✭✭✭✭blanch152


    Very principled of you Francie, you wouldn't even joke about such things, would you?

    Just for annoyance sake, have a read of this.

    https://m.independent.ie/opinion/comment/we-should-be-grateful-to-sinn-fein-for-reminding-the-people-of-its-true-colours-39346401.html

    Excellent opinion piece.

    "Certainly, the fact that Michelle O'Neill actually broke the guidelines she herself helped to compile shows either a level of stupidity or sheer hubris which would be hard to comprehend from any other party."

    I would go with a combination of stupidity and sheer hubris myself. For those on here lauding their "apologies", here is a complete deconstruction:

    "But this is not a party that deals in humiliation and if McDonald and O'Neill's subsequent and very half-hearted comments are taken at face value, they don't really do apologies either.

    The pair of them offered virtually identical non-apology apologies, expressing regret for any 'hurt' that may have been caused to grieving families who played by the rules and stayed away from the cemetery.

    It was weapons-grade hypocrisy from a party which knows more about weapons than most."

    Once again, I am sure that I will be attacked for having an opinion on this, but here is a reminder that are plenty out there who see the attack dogs for what they are.

    "Its supporters have been quick to use the usual Sinn Féin playbook - when criticised, play the victim and start squealing about the media and west Brits.

    However, to all but the most committed Shinnerbot, it was an appalling sight - a show of force masquerading as an act of compassion for their 'friend'."


  • Registered Users Posts: 5,874 ✭✭✭Edgware


    Very surprised they shut down their Dublin South West organisation.

    H.S.E. are forwarding extra supplies of crutches to Tallaght Hospital


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,927 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    It's gas the amount of democrats that are piling in with the 'it was important to 'keep her' away from government', given the first week of the actual government's performance. :)

    The admission of actual exclusion is hilarious.

    By the way, the crematorium and council has issued a statement about what happened at the crematorium. It isn't as it was reported.

    So why don't we wait for the PSNI to report because who knows what is being exaggerated.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,665 ✭✭✭Bonniedog


    DSW has been cesspit for years. Jack the TD is grand but been taken over by runners in and thugs who had backing of one of the councilors parachuted in by Belfast.

    I may be wrong but at one stage almost all of the councilors on SDCC had been co-opted rather than elected. Nice guy Ó Broin is grand with all that.


  • Registered Users Posts: 53 ✭✭CorkBlackbird


    People are obsessed with SF here!! Can’t beat them join them


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,431 ✭✭✭Mortelaro



    By the way, the crematorium and council has issued a statement about what happened at the crematorium. It isn't as it was reported.

    So why don't we wait for the PSNI

    Oh Really ?
    Every media outlet are reporting the statement, are they all liars? Is the statement a lie too?
    "This meant that only one of the nine cremation services on Tuesday 30 June had 30 people in attendance."

    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5624136/belfast-city-council-funeral-bobby-storey/


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,125 ✭✭✭piplip87


    I see plenty of my friends are objecting to the COVID app. They are nearly all SF voters. All the other major parties have been pushing this app this morning. All SF have is Louise O'Reilly retweeting not to share a phone number ...... Not fit to govern. A endorsement from SF reps would see increase in numbers


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    I think they apologised for the hurt caused by the breaches.

    As I said before I think it a sad indictment that people are asking mourners to apologise for going to a funeral.
    There have been several high profile funerals during the pandemic, I didn't say a thing about anybody who went to them and I am not starting now.

    Many people would like them to apologise for causing so many funerals - and to provide details to the Guards/ PSNI of those responsible


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,927 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Oh Really ?
    Every media outlet are reporting the statement, are they all liars? Is the statement a lie too?



    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5624136/belfast-city-council-funeral-bobby-storey/

    Any cancellations were made by the council/crematorium not SF.
    They have apologised for an 'error of judgement'.

    Nobody sent sinister looking men to close and guard the crematorium as was being breathlessly suggested.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    piplip87 wrote: »
    I see plenty of my friends are objecting to the COVID app. They are nearly all SF voters. All the other major parties have been pushing this app this morning. All SF have is Louise O'Reilly retweeting not to share a phone number ...... Not fit to govern. A endorsement from SF reps would see increase in numbers

    i actually have an issue with running about with bluetooth on all the time. besides - the app can only tell if someone has already told their app they have had/have covid so it'll only be so-so effective.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Bowie wrote: »
    You constantly refer to the kind of people who you believe support SF.
    And here you are again doing same.
    Why not quote these claims and respond to them rather than generalising and leaving no proof or room for dispute?
    Show this in the media then. Generalising with no quotes sounds made up JF.


    Two kinds of people support Sinn Fein, firstly those fully invested in the IRA/ blood sacrifice united Ireland murder machine who will justify any behaviour or action one way or another. These are a small minority

    The second group, of which you seem to be a member, are prepared to forget about what they have done and who they are and focus on what they have promised you. In your case its housing; for others it is other issues.

    Leaving aside the reality of the likelihood of them ever delivering on their promises I believe this second group have lost their moral centre and/or are simply are too young to remember or to know what Sinn Fein/ IRA have done who they represent and who controls them.

    It is not OK to jettison all moral principal in the pursuit of what you want or what you are promised regardless of the source of that promise


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    piplip87 wrote: »
    I see plenty of my friends are objecting to the COVID app. They are nearly all SF voters. All the other major parties have been pushing this app this morning. All SF have is Louise O'Reilly retweeting not to share a phone number ...... Not fit to govern. A endorsement from SF reps would see increase in numbers

    Probably because it is a conspiracy by Blueshirts and Goldman Sachs to rent out your house if you pop out the pub.

    No doubt many of the complainers are on Tinder


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Two kinds of people support Sinn Fein, firstly those fully invested in the IRA/ blood sacrifice united Ireland murder machine who will justify any behaviour or action one way or another. These are a small minority

    The second group, of which you seem to be a member, are prepared to forget about what they have done and who they are and focus on what they have promised you. In your case its housing; for others it is other issues.

    Leaving aside the reality of the likelihood of them ever delivering on their promises I believe this second group have lost their moral centre and/or are simply are too young to remember or to know what Sinn Fein/ IRA have done who they represent and who controls them.

    It is not OK to jettison all moral principal in the pursuit of what you want or what you are promised regardless of the source of that promise

    You forgot 'IMO'.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    maccored wrote: »
    You forgot 'IMO'.

    Indeed. Feel free to suggest another catagory


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Two kinds of people support Sinn Fein, firstly those fully invested in the IRA/ blood sacrifice united Ireland murder machine who will justify any behaviour or action one way or another. These are a small minority

    The second group, of which you seem to be a member, are prepared to forget about what they have done and who they are and focus on what they have promised you. In your case its housing; for others it is other issues.

    Leaving aside the reality of the likelihood of them ever delivering on their promises I believe this second group have lost their moral centre and/or are simply are too young to remember or to know what Sinn Fein/ IRA have done who they represent and who controls them.

    It is not OK to jettison all moral principal in the pursuit of what you want or what you are promised regardless of the source of that promise

    Thats a lie, there is people from all walks of life, with loads of diff views who voted Sinn Fein or are you saying you know everyone who voted SF?


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 4,719 ✭✭✭dundalkfc10


    piplip87 wrote: »
    I see plenty of my friends are objecting to the COVID app. They are nearly all SF voters. All the other major parties have been pushing this app this morning. All SF have is Louise O'Reilly retweeting not to share a phone number ...... Not fit to govern. A endorsement from SF reps would see increase in numbers

    Course they are FFS


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,928 ✭✭✭Bishop of hope


    piplip87 wrote: »
    I see plenty of my friends are objecting to the COVID app. They are nearly all SF voters. All the other major parties have been pushing this app this morning. All SF have is Louise O'Reilly retweeting not to share a phone number ...... Not fit to govern. A endorsement from SF reps would see increase in numbers

    Tbf i think its a matter of personal preference for anyone.
    Pearse is recommending I think.
    If he had it last week it might have told him, alert, you're in a dangerous situation.

    https://twitter.com/PearseDoherty/status/1280440979179307009?s=20


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Truthvader wrote: »
    Indeed. Feel free to suggest another catagory

    eh? Ive enough to be doing rather than be thinking up 'categories' for your imaginary theory on who votes for SF.

    I wouldnt pretend to know why people vote for a party - you might, but thats between you and your ego


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,927 ✭✭✭✭FrancieBrady


    piplip87 wrote: »
    I see plenty of my friends are objecting to the COVID app. They are nearly all SF voters. All the other major parties have been pushing this app this morning. All SF have is Louise O'Reilly retweeting not to share a phone number ...... Not fit to govern. A endorsement from SF reps would see increase in numbers

    What?

    Louise O'Reilly retweeted a tweet that reassured people that you 'don't have to enter a number if you don't want to'
    Louise O’Reilly TD for Dublin Fingal Retweeted
    Jess Kelly 👩🏻*💻
    @jesskellynt
    ·
    13h
    For those downloading the app, you may be prompted to insert your number *but you don't have to*.

    It doesn't need your number to work.


  • Registered Users Posts: 10,665 ✭✭✭✭maccored


    Thats a lie, there is people from all walks of life, with loads of diff views who voted Sinn Fein or are you saying you know everyone who voted SF?

    Truthvader knows. Dont be arguing. :pac:


  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Mortelaro wrote: »
    Oh Really ?
    Every media outlet are reporting the statement, are they all liars? Is the statement a lie too?



    https://www.thesun.ie/news/5624136/belfast-city-council-funeral-bobby-storey/

    Is there any evidence SF cancelled or controlled other events on the say or is it just implied as a slur?


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,826 ✭✭✭Truthvader


    Thats a lie, there is people from all walks of life, with loads of diff views who voted Sinn Fein or are you saying you know everyone who voted SF?

    Given your "tiocfaidh ar la" comment a few weeks ago I suspect you are a category one supporter.

    Still maintain that the "people for all walks of life" must necessarily take the view that the "was is over" and that we should put it all behind us and forget about what they have done and who they are.

    Just think that's not OK. 25% of the population disagree with me


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  • Registered Users Posts: 6,933 ✭✭✭smurgen


    Bonniedog wrote: »
    Cancelling the cremations is the worst aspect. Same as not allowing more than tiny numbers to attend Mass and Protestant services in rural areas, it is majorly pissing people off. Especially when they have north Korean type event in the middle of it.


    Arrogance. And they don't even realise that is what it comes across there as they have developed the self awareness of a turnip.

    Any little thing that happens to them or any criticism is occasion of self pitying whinge fest. Think they can do whatever the fk they want if it benefits themselves.

    Who decided cremations were cancelled? Any evidence SF did?


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