Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Truthvader

RandomViewer wrote: »

Bizarre carry on in Belfast, rats and flies everywhere from illegal dump

https://www.irishnews.com/news/2020/07/21/news/work-to-begin-on-clearing-waste-mountain-in-north-belfast-2011391/

And the same sad mental two tribes attitude continues with Loyalist "community activists" " advising" people from the other tribe to leave. Stuck forever with each other

smurgen

Truthvader wrote: »

And the same sad mental two tribes attitude continues with Loyalist "community activists" " advising" people from the other tribe to leave. Stuck forever with each other

Anything to keep the thread bumped right?

Dank Janniels

Six months ago Sinn Fein or rather Marylou promised us change but was unable to deliver change. Looking at other parties like Labour-Brendan Howlin stepped aside and they picked Alan Kelly to lead; also the Greens are to pick a new leader despite having their best election result in years; Are we to believe that no-one in SF has anything critical to say about Marylou's or indeed their party's performance in the Gov negotiation talks? I imagine there are thousands of their supporters extremly disappionted and disallusioned over what has taken place

zoobizoo

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Six months ago Sinn Fein or rather Marylou promised us change but was unable to deliver change. Looking at other parties like Labour-Brendan Howlin stepped aside and they picked Alan Kelly to lead; also the Greens are to pick a new leader despite having their best election result in years; Are we to believe that no-one in SF has anything critical to say about Marylou's or indeed their party's performance in the Gov negotiation talks? I imagine there are thousands of their supporters extremly disappionted and disallusioned over what has taken place

Have a read of the Friends Who Like Sinn Fein Facebook page.

You'll see that she is revered by the SF followers.

I'm not sure any other party supporters would view their leader as a saviour.... they seem to think that she is.

They're Trumpian in their devotion.

RandomViewer

zoobizoo wrote: »

Have a read of the Friends Who Like Sinn Fein Facebook page.

You'll see that she is revered by the SF followers.

I'm not sure any other party supporters would view their leader as a saviour.... they seem to think that she is.

They're Trumpian in their devotion.

Wouldn't say that, Dublin based leaders on a whole are usually useless, lots of SF voters would have rather seen Doherty or Carty as leader

McMurphy

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Six months ago Sinn Fein or rather Marylou promised us change but was unable to deliver change. Looking at other parties like Labour-Brendan Howlin stepped aside and they picked Alan Kelly to lead; also the Greens are to pick a new leader despite having their best election result in years; Are we to believe that no-one in SF has anything critical to say about Marylou's or indeed their party's performance in the Gov negotiation talks? I imagine there are thousands of their supporters extremly disappionted and disallusioned over what has taken place

Ok, so Sinn Fein have their most successful Dail election ever, and why has no-one from within Sinn Fein moved to oust her?


FG had one of their worst election campaigns in their history, being leapfrogged by the shinners, and not only that, but during an economic boom.

So going by your logic, someone will be along to challenge Leo's leadership anyday now?

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Never said that nobody was breaching rules until SF did, that is another made-up twist of my post.

In relation to the idiots in Walkinstown, they are complete idiots, no more, no less than anyone who went to Bobby Storey's funeral. All of them are in the same boat, the poster I quoted was implying that somehow we wouldn't class them all the same.

The difference is that Michelle O'Neill and Mary-Lou are supposed to be leaders, not mere idiots. If we can all agree on the two women being no better than idiots in Walkinstown, then we are making progress.

Exactly the criticism of our 'leader' swilling bottles in the park. They should have known better. Look at all the house party's...that directly attributable to Varadkar swanning about, buying clothes and having meals out, leading a normal life as if Covid never happened

blanch152

zoobizoo wrote: »

Have a read of the Friends Who Like Sinn Fein Facebook page.

You'll see that she is revered by the SF followers.

I'm not sure any other party supporters would view their leader as a saviour.... they seem to think that she is.

They're Trumpian in their devotion.

There is a Friends who like Sinn Fein Facebook Page?

Shudder to think what it's like, would make Twitter look like a polite conversation.

Truthvader

McMurphy wrote: »

Ok, so Sinn Fein have their most successful Dail election ever, and why has no-one from within Sinn Fein moved to oust her?


FG had one of their worst election campaigns in their history, being leapfrogged by the shinners, and not only that, but during an economic boom.

So going by your logic, someone will be along to challenge Leo's leadership anyday now?

This actually all true. Not sure why SF would ditch Mary Lou unless they believe that if they had someone less annoying they could have done even better. The Leo thing probably boils down to the fact that there is no-one better so hard to see how their vote would increase with someone else. Plus he managed the poor election result in a very calm way.

Bishop of hope

The Fermanagh/Tyrone lads going solo.
SF not making much headlines these days, but a little internal rift apparently.
https://m.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/northern-ireland/split-in-sinn-fein-as-council-rejects-call-to-oppose-campbell-extradition-39393290.html

nigeldaniel

Dank Janniels wrote: »

Six months ago Sinn Fein or rather Marylou promised us change but was unable to deliver change. Looking at other parties like Labour-Brendan Howlin stepped aside and they picked Alan Kelly to lead; also the Greens are to pick a new leader despite having their best election result in years; Are we to believe that no-one in SF has anything critical to say about Marylou's or indeed their party's performance in the Gov negotiation talks? I imagine there are thousands of their supporters extremly disappionted and disallusioned over what has taken place

Sf take their orders from the wrong people, it's not as though they can make calls themselves. The party as a whole is so bullied and controlled they could not make tea without waiting for an order.

2smiggy

did not hear a peep out of SF on the efforts to create a coalition government. Since one was agreed you cannot turn on a television or radio with out someone from SF telling the government how things should be done. Shows that all they have is the ability to complain.

Edgware

All we get from S.F. is a load of misery guts with nothing positive to say about any initiative.
Sherlock of Labour wants more spending on welfare. The head bangers of the far left dont know what they want so just repeat Trotskyist ****e and want unity of the left. Some chance of that. The transition year student in Achill who has thrown the toys out of the pram wants another left eco socialist ( what the **** is that?) party set up so she can leave it in six months.

Horsebox9000

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Exactly the criticism of our 'leader' swilling bottles in the park. They should have known better. Look at all the house party's...that directly attributable to Varadkar swanning about, buying clothes and having meals out, leading a normal life as if Covid never happened

This is as bad as the post I read on the journal stating the Reason why people didn't socially distance on dame street was because they didn't respect Simon Harris.

FrancieBrady

Horsebox9000 wrote: »

This is as bad as the post I read on the journal stating the Reason why people didn't socially distance on dame street was because they didn't respect Simon Harris.

As bad as this bit of stretching? Which is what I was sending up, which seems to have whooshed right over your head.

blanch152 wrote:

Sure, if Mary-Lou can celebrate the death of a criminal thug, us lads can celebrate Jack Charlton

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

As bad as this bit of stretching? Which is what I was sending up, which seems to have whooshed right over your head.

(1) It is always someone else' fault

(2) Look over there, they are doing it too

jm08

blanch152 wrote: »

(1) It is always someone else' fault

(2) Look over there, they are doing it too

So Blanch, was their a spike in Covid-19 in West Belfast as a result of the Storey funeral?

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

(1) It is always someone else' fault

(2) Look over there, they are doing it too

blanch152 wrote:

Sure, if Mary-Lou can celebrate the death of a criminal thug, us lads can celebrate Jack Charlton

'Look over there' - 'Mary Lou' is at fault for 'lads celebrating Jack Charlton'

blanch152

jm08 wrote: »

So Blanch, was their a spike in Covid-19 in West Belfast as a result of the Storey funeral?

Not the point, the example set was the problem.

A pity that Sinn Fein in the North have adopted a partitionist mentality when it comes to the health of people on this island.

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/coronavirus-covid-19-countries-and-territories-exemptions

Their list of exemptions is far higher and more risky than the South.

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Not the point, the example set was the problem.

A pity that Sinn Fein in the North have adopted a partitionist mentality when it comes to the health of people on this island.

https://www.nidirect.gov.uk/articles/coronavirus-covid-19-countries-and-territories-exemptions

Their list of exemptions is far higher and more risky than the South.

Read this carefully: The island is partitioned. There are 5 parties involved in determining policy in the northern partitioned part.
One of those parties, is diametrically opposed to aligning in any way with the south.

Partition makes the health of the island more risky and volatile.

It's not rocket science to figure that out.

blanch152

FrancieBrady wrote: »

Read this carefully: The island is partitioned. There are 5 parties involved in determining policy in the northern partitioned part.
One of those parties, is diametrically opposed to aligning in any way with the south.

Partition makes the health of the island more risky and volatile.

It's not rocket science to figure that out.

Default 1 from earlier - blame someone else.
I should have added (3) - blame the person who raised the issue.

The same argument about borders can be made about Spain and France or Belgium and Luxembourg, why don't they unite?

No, the question is, knowing what everyone knows about the virus, why did Sinn Fein allow so many countries onto the Northern Ireland green list?

FrancieBrady

blanch152 wrote: »

Default 1 from earlier - blame someone else.
I should have added (3) - blame the person who raised the issue.

The same argument about borders can be made about Spain and France or Belgium and Luxembourg, why don't they unite?

No, the question is, knowing what everyone knows about the virus, why did Sinn Fein allow so many countries onto the Northern Ireland green list?

I told you why and I'll say it again...it isn't rocket science.
And you don't have to travel the world looking for spurios other places to point at.

McMurphy

FrancieBrady wrote: »

'Look over there' - 'Mary Lou' is at fault for 'lads celebrating Jack Charlton'

The irony :pac:

Edgware

McMurphy wrote: »

The irony :pac:

Leave Mary Lou out of it. She's at home in front of the mirror practising her next "spontaneous" soundbite

blanch152

I understand that being appointed to a different position is now considered a payrise.

Mary-Lou has just handed a €9.5k payrise to Brian Stanley.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/brian-stanley-appointed-chair-of-oireachtas-public-accounts-committee-1012295.html

I don't have any issue with him getting the rate for the job, but those who are ranting and raving about junior ministers getting "payrises" must surely be outraged at this too.

Pkiernan

blanch152 wrote: »

I understand that being appointed to a different position is now considered a payrise.

Mary-Lou has just handed a €9.5k payrise to Brian Stanley.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/brian-stanley-appointed-chair-of-oireachtas-public-accounts-committee-1012295.html

I don't have any issue with him getting the rate for the job, but those who are ranting and raving about junior ministers getting "payrises" must surely be outraged at this too.

That will buy a lot of printer toner and marked diesel.

tikkahunter

blanch152 wrote: »

I understand that being appointed to a different position is now considered a payrise.

Mary-Lou has just handed a €9.5k payrise to Brian Stanley.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/brian-stanley-appointed-chair-of-oireachtas-public-accounts-committee-1012295.html

I don't have any issue with him getting the rate for the job, but those who are ranting and raving about junior ministers getting "payrises" must surely be outraged at this too.

Sure just use the Apple money to top up the salary's ......oh wait .

Edgware

blanch152 wrote: »

I understand that being appointed to a different position is now considered a payrise.

Mary-Lou has just handed a €9.5k payrise to Brian Stanley.

https://www.breakingnews.ie/ireland/brian-stanley-appointed-chair-of-oireachtas-public-accounts-committee-1012295.html

I don't have any issue with him getting the rate for the job, but those who are ranting and raving about junior ministers getting "payrises" must surely be outraged at this too.

But he will give all that to the party as he will take the average industrial wages not like the grabbers in the other parties

Truthvader

Edgware wrote: »

But he will give all that to the party as he will take the average industrial wages not like the grabbers in the other parties

Will he now? So how did Uncle Gerry end up with his various houses ?

I don't believe for a second that the Sinn Fein mob are on an average industrial wage only

all about the mane

Edgware wrote: »

But he will give all that to the party as he will take the average industrial wages not like the grabbers in the other parties

Doesn't matter if he keeps it or gives it to the party. Feck all use to the tax payer either way.