Is it just me or have SF vanished?

Wanderer78

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

I’d love to have been a fly on the wall watching when it dawned on Mary Lou, that despite ‘winning the election’ and all their grand plans for a left coalition, it was going nowhere.

id say shes grand, shur tis politics

Rodney Bathgate

Wanderer78 wrote: »

id say shes grand, shur tis politics

Sure it is, but I’d love to know whether she cried or threw a tantrum or more likely thanked God she wouldn’t have to step up to the plate.

Wanderer78

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Sure it is, but I’d love to know whether she cried or threw a tantrum or more likely thanked God she wouldn’t have to step up to the plate.

who cares

Shefwedfan

Runaways wrote: »

‘Her party won 24.5 per cent of the vote, ahead of Fianna Fáil on 22.2 per cent and Fine Gael on 20.9 per cent. The Green Party won 7.1 per cent, Labour received 4.4 per cent, the Social Democrats took 2.9 per cent and Solidarity-People Before Profit received 2.9 per cent. Independent TDs and others won 15.4 per cent.’

That’s a shocker.
Our friend Mary here said it was fairly close.
4% is not close in any election. Anywhere.
A few hundred votes are what you can call close. Not 4% of the national total.


Shock to me there is the independents and
‘Others’.

Hadn’t realized it was that big a result.
Independent TDs.. they’re an odd one.

All that matter is seats and between the 3 parties is 3 seats.....


I have a better chance of been taoiseach that Mary Lou does :P this was her best chance and instead of running the show she is keep RTE news relevant

is_that_so

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

I’d love to have been a fly on the wall watching when it dawned on Mary Lou, that despite ‘winning the election’ and all their grand plans for a left coalition, it was going nowhere.

I don't think McMillian envisaged a microscopic bug putting a spanner in the works. Their problem is post-COVID FG are on familiar ground with an economy to turn around so the high spending promises will be gone for a bit. They'll also have nobody to blame for the downturn.

Shefwedfan

Wanderer78 wrote: »

who cares

Wel SF votes should care, they voted for her to run Ireland, "Time for Change" was the slogan.



But they voted and got? well f**k all "Change". SF continue to act that exact way they done prior to the election. They have failed to step up at any stage.



They have sat back, done nothing and threw mud. Sure they done that prior to the election.



So for the "win" SF got at the elections, what "change" have you seen?

Wanderer78

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Wel SF votes should care, they voted for her to run Ireland, "Time for Change" was the slogan.



But they voted and got? well f**k all "Change". SF continue to act that exact way they done prior to the election. They have failed to step up at any stage.



They have sat back, done nothing and threw mud. Sure they done that prior to the election.



So for the "win" SF got at the elections, what "change" have you seen?

again, the numbers simply arent there for a sf lead government, and ffg will do everything in their power to prevent that, hence why we re more than likely gonna have a ffg lead government, possibly indefinitely

tipptom

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

I’d love to have been a fly on the wall watching when it dawned on Mary Lou, that despite ‘winning the election’ and all their grand plans for a left coalition, it was going nowhere.

Yeah,the two most corrupt party's in the history of the state have now to join together and still cant form a government.

They now will have offer their "outside of the family" friends like Michael Lowry "incentives" to get them into power.
You know the one that a judge said their corruption was "breathtaking beyond belief" ,it will cost more vessels of the state to be "sold of" to casino moguls and tele billionaires and Cork property developers who saved a senior FF politician in the tribunals amongst many others.

Rodney Bathgate

is_that_so wrote: »

I don't think McMillian envisaged a microscopic bug putting a spanner in the works. Their problem is post-COVID FG are on familiar ground with an economy to turn around so the high spending promises will be gone for a bit. They'll also have nobody to blame for the downturn.

I meant the days right after the election, when Mary Lou was ‘sending letters’ and meeting PBP and co.

Shefwedfan

Wanderer78 wrote: »

again, the numbers simply arent there for a sf lead government, and ffg will do everything in their power to prevent that, hence why we re more than likely gonna have a ffg lead government, possibly indefinitely

I asked you what "change" you have seen?



I have seen zero from SF. They are the exact same when prior to the election as they are now. They have added no value to anyone.



Hardly the "change" voters wanted?


Have you seen anything?

Rodney Bathgate

tipptom wrote: »

Yeah,the two most corrupt party's in the history of the state have now to join together and still cant form a government.

They now will have offer their "outside of the family" friends like Michael Lowry "incentives" to get them into power.
You know the one that a judge said their corruption was "breathtaking beyond belief" ,it will cost more vessels of the state to be "sold of" to casino moguls and tele billionaires and Cork property developers who saved a senior FF politician in the tribunals amongst many others.

Better to have Violet Anne (12k rent arrears for living rent free for 4 years) and Reada in power.

Make Violet-Anne minister for housing. Was it Violet Ann that was the anti-vaxxer? She can be minister of health also.

Reada is very knowledgeable on the banking system and history maybe joint minister of foreign affairs and minister of finance also.

Maybe Aongus can be in charge of printing and one of the convicted terrorists can be minister for justice.

Shefwedfan

tipptom wrote: »

Yeah,the two most corrupt party's in the history of the state have now to join together and still cant form a government.

They now will have offer their "outside of the family" friends like Michael Lowry "incentives" to get them into power.
You know the one that a judge said their corruption was "breathtaking beyond belief" ,it will cost more vessels of the state to be "sold of" to casino moguls and tele billionaires and Cork property developers who saved a senior FF politician in the tribunals amongst many others.

Which judge? any links?

Wanderer78

Wanderer78 wrote: »

again, the numbers simply arent there for a sf lead government, and ffg will do everything in their power to prevent that, hence why we re more than likely gonna have a ffg lead government, possibly indefinitely

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I asked you what "change" you have seen?



I have seen zero from SF. They are the exact same when prior to the election as they are now. They have added no value to anyone.



Hardly the "change" voters wanted?


Have you seen anything?

.....

Rjd2

Runaways wrote: »

That wont happen. There isn’t the right kind of seed bed in media here for it. And generally Irish electorate would never fall for it. See Peter Casey and wee Gemma and Justin for evidence of that

There’s no appetite for it. Try as they might to rabble rouse in social media

I agree.

To have any chance, you need a leader with serious charisma and Justin no matter your opinion of his politics (awful obviously) has none whatsoever.

Gemma even in right wing circles is considered a joke.

If you want that sort of politics, best you can hope for is a few really right wing Indys here and there.

Runaways

Shefwedfan wrote: »

All that matter is seats and between the 3 parties is 3 seats.....


I have a better chance of been taoiseach that Mary Lou does :P this was her best chance and instead of running the show she is keep RTE news relevant

The smiley faces really don’t help make your point.

In fact they make it look like a child’s fancy paper. And worth about as much.

Shefwedfan

Shefwedfan wrote: »

I asked you what "change" you have seen?



I have seen zero from SF. They are the exact same when prior to the election as they are now. They have added no value to anyone.



Hardly the "change" voters wanted?


Have you seen anything?

All their suggestions are more or less taken up by the government 3 to 4 days after they suggest them


Im at a loss as to.what you think a party that isnt in government can do.....i think SF are hypocrites mind,but your critism isnt based on any solid foundation or remotely valid?

Like the 2nd biggest opposition party proposal to solve the corona virus,was to grow lettuce in south facing windows (and this group of brainiancs will most likely be taken onboard by FF/FG to solidify a government)

......if everything SF say or do triggers yous to the extent it seems to,perhaps you should just try ignore them??

Shefwedfan

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Better to have Violet Anne (12k rent arrears for living rent free for 4 years) and Reada in power.

Make Violet-Anne minister for housing. Was it Violet Ann that was the anti-vaxxer? She can be minister of health also.

Reada is very knowledgeable on the banking system and history maybe joint minister of foreign affairs and minister of finance also.

Maybe Aongus can be in charge of printing and one of the convicted terrorists can be minister for justice.

It is worth noting, the 12k which Violet has no intention of paying back either

Rodney Bathgate

Runaways wrote: »

The smiley faces really don’t help make your point.

In fact they make it look like a child’s fancy paper. And worth about as much.

I see you are taking a leaf from Yurts book and focusing on the smilies. Fair play.

Fann Linn

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Which judge? any links?

Probably means Moriarty,

Shefwedfan

Deleted User wrote: »

All their suggestions are more or less taken up by the government 3 to 4 days after they suggest them


Im at a loss as to.what you think a party that isnt in government can do

Like the 2nd biggest opposition party proposal to solve the corona virus,was to grow lettuce in south facing windows......if everything SF say or do triggers yous to the extent it seems to,perhaps you should just try ignore them??

Maybe you should read past the headline or listen to the point the Greens made: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus/green-party-call-on-people-to-grow-salad-on-south-facing-windowsills-1.4209019


It was a point about mental health, keep active etc. if you listen he did reference it "was not the most important thing". If you try and stop sniggering it is a valid point. Growing vegtables etc might not be the worst idea in terms of keeping busy and also from supply!!



This "all the points" was taken up by the government is a load of BS, do you really think the government is sitting waiting for SF to announce something and go "thats a great idea lets do that"


Cop on will ya!!

0lddog

Whatever about FG, FF, SF - if there was an election tomorrow I very much doubt that The Greens would get a single seat.



( They have shown themselves to be a bunch of to**er* :rolleyes: )

Rodney Bathgate

Someone should remind SF that they aren’t in government. Apparently they have a ‘Ministerial Team’ tackling ‘cover-19 crisis’ (whatever that is).

Wanderer78

0lddog wrote: »

Whatever about FG, FF, SF - if there was an election tomorrow I very much doubt that The Greens would get a single seat.



( They have shown themselves to be a bunch of to**er* :rolleyes: )

im sure they would

Rows Grower

Some lads on here are trying to paint an image of Sinn Fein as a party that is in reality just projecting themselves as a poster.

Rodney Bathgate

Rodney Bathgate wrote: »

Someone should remind SF that they aren’t in government. Apparently they have a ‘Ministerial Team’ tackling ‘cover-19 crisis’ (whatever that is).

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Shefwedfan

Deleted User wrote: »

......if everything SF say or do triggers yous to the extent it seems to,perhaps you should just try ignore them??

You added this bit after....so I will repond seperate.



So between finbot, on FG payroll etc etc etc Now I am triggered? why? because I ask a couple of questions which people are incapable of answering?

Shefwedfan

0lddog wrote: »

Whatever about FG, FF, SF - if there was an election tomorrow I very much doubt that The Greens would get a single seat.



( They have shown themselves to be a bunch of to**er* :rolleyes: )

Why? maybe explain in more detail

Rows Grower

Runaways wrote: »

If you have 12 hours a day to be spending on boards banging on about one single topic in this case Sinn Fein

You’re either
A a doleite Waster
B a Fine Gael spin bot
C someone with genuinely no life


Can we get a poll up on that? Think we’d all like to see those results.

I think we can safely rule out option B.

Shefwedfan

Shefwedfan wrote: »

Maybe you should read past the headline or listen to the point the Greens made: https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus/green-party-call-on-people-to-grow-salad-on-south-facing-windowsills-1.4209019


It was a point about mental health, keep active etc. if you listen he did reference it "was not the most important thing". If you try and stop sniggering it is a valid point. Growing vegtables etc might not be the worst idea in terms of keeping busy and also from supply!!

Im.hardly sniggering,when im a big fan of self suffiecenys....but it just highlighted how.much out of touch greens are tbh and not fit for government,but sure lookit,enjoy your lettuce i guess :pac:

This "all the points" was taken up by the government is a load of BS, do you really think the government is sitting waiting for SF to announce something and go "thats a great idea lets do that"

Except i havnt suggested anything close to this,infact government usually critises SF for.their points before going to their expert medical commite and more or less doing them.a few days later

(hint:SF has a massive healthcare membership and advisors on the payroll,hence why their health policy document for the election was so highly regarded)

Cop on will ya!!

your free to stop.replying at any moment....you asked for something,got an answer you dislike,now your screaming to others to cop on,check yourself bro......SF are terrible hypocrites,but your critism of em isnt valid or based on anything substancial

Shefwedfan

It's gone that bad now we have the very bottom of the Irish voters coming into the thread

We now have the Healy Rae fan club!!!!

All I can say is at least SF had a manifesto!!