Is it just me or have SF vanished?

maccored

Truthvader wrote: »

Sinn Fein are a neo Fascist party run by criminals and lightweights wheeling out meaningless populist drivel for those to young to realise what they are or too criminalised to care.

this above is precisely why its a waste of time debating anything SF or north related. especially since the poster uses the words 'neo facist'. one minute sf are communists, the next they are the opposite

"neofascism advocated extreme nationalism, opposed liberal individualism, attacked Marxist and other left-wing ideologies, indulged in racist and xenophobic scapegoating, and promoted populist right-wing economic programs."

Thats sounds more like FFG to me

Truthvader

jm08 wrote: »

Houses are not being built. Commerical properties are being incentivised. Why would any builder build houses when there is more money in building hotels and communal accommodation. There is a new housing development of about 40 houses beside where I live (used to be a factory). They are costing between 800K and 900K each. What normal family can afford those?

If no-one can afford them no-one will buy them and prices will fall until someone can afford them. Maybe Ireland is a rich enough society that they will be sold out - or maybe the local authority will buy one and give it to Violet Ann or some other needy and deserving case

Truthvader

maccored wrote: »

this above is precisely why its a waste of time debating anything SF or north related. especially since the poster uses the words 'neo facist'. one minute sf are communists, the next they are the opposite

"neofascism advocated extreme nationalism, opposed liberal individualism, attacked Marxist and other left-wing ideologies, indulged in racist and xenophobic scapegoating, and promoted populist right-wing economic programs."

Thats sounds more like FFG to me

Nope 100% Sinn Fein - though you forgot to mention the thug murder your way to power element

Yeah_Right

jm08 wrote: »

Houses are not being built. Commerical properties are being incentivised. Why would any builder build houses when there is more money in building hotels and communal accommodation. There is a new housing development of about 40 houses beside where I live (used to be a factory). They are costing between 800K and 900K each. What normal family can afford those?

The bit in bold is rubbish. A few thousand houses have been built out in Swords in the last few years and more are being built. And they are starting at less than 300K. Available and affordable. But not free so I guess SF voters won't be interested.

jm08

Yeah_Right wrote: »

The bit in bold is rubbish. A few thousand houses have been built out in Swords in the last few years and more are being built. And they are starting at less than 300K. Available and affordable. But not free so I guess SF voters won't be interested.

A few 2 bed houses at 297K. 3-4 bed are 400-500K.


There is no such thing as a free house. What people are voting for is affordable housing in Dublin which is the area that is really affected.

jm08

Truthvader wrote: »

If no-one can afford them no-one will buy them and prices will fall until someone can afford them. Maybe Ireland is a rich enough society that they will be sold out - or maybe the local authority will buy one and give it to Violet Ann or some other needy and deserving case

That seems to be the FF/FG policy. The local authorities spend tax payers money inflating property developers bank accounts.

maccored

Truthvader wrote: »

Nope 100% Sinn Fein - though you forgot to mention the thug murder your way to power element

please do point out where SF have been murdering?

Actually - **** that. Its a waste of time asking you to back anything up because you talk rubbish, then move on to talking more rubbish. Its because of the like of yourself that I cant be arsed with these threads. Too much waffle, not enough fact for my liking

Truthvader

maccored wrote: »

please do point out where SF have been murdering?

Actually - **** that. Its a waste of time asking you to back anything up because you talk rubbish, then move on to talking more rubbish. Its because of the like of yourself that I cant be arsed with these threads. Too much waffle, not enough fact for my liking

More like too much fact. Anyway bye bye

SafeSurfer

maccored wrote: »

please do point out where SF have been murdering?

Actually - **** that. Its a waste of time asking you to back anything up because you talk rubbish, then move on to talking more rubbish. Its because of the like of yourself that I cant be arsed with these threads. Too much waffle, not enough fact for my liking

The previous poster was correct.

It was Sinn Fein policy to take power in Ireland by force.

This was the “Armalite and Ballot Box Strategy”

“Who here really believes we can win the war through the ballot box? But will anyone here object if, with a ballot paper in this hand and an Armalite in the other, we take power in Ireland?”

Danny Morrison. IRA member and Sinn Fein director of publicity. He had been jailed for conspiracy to murder an IRA British intelligence agent. His conviction was later overturned because other British agents within the IRA were also involved in the conspiracy to murder the first IRA informer.

Edgware

jm08 wrote: »

That seems to be the FF/FG policy. The local authorities spend tax payers money inflating property developers bank accounts.

Why bring ex hunger striker Tom McFeely in to it?

jm08

Edgware wrote: »

Why bring ex hunger striker Tom McFeely in to it?

I don't know why you are bringing him into it. Is he a member of Sinn Fein? Has Sinn Fein defended him over Priory Hall or is this just you slinging mud hoping some will stick?


What are you saying here?

blanch152

Nauseating hypocrisy on show from Sinn Fein again today.

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/0821/1160454-calleary-reaction/


"Sinn Féin's David Cullinane has said Mr Hogan should resign as EU Commissioner.

Speaking on RTÉ's Today with Sarah McInerney, the Waterford TD said Mr Hogan breached guidelines, adding he is "a very, very experienced politician and should have known what the guidelines were."

Deputy Cullinane said the episode "smacks of arrogance" and shows there is "confusion, chaos and dysfunction at the heart of the Government".

Where was he when Michelle O'Neill, Conor Murphy, Mary-Lou et al all broke the lockdown rules and attended Bobby Storey's funeral.

As is normal, the one rule for Sinn Fein, one rule for others continues within the state within a state.



P.S. I am on record stating that Jerry Buttimer and Dara Calleary were right to resign, this is about Sinn Fein hypocrisy.

blanch152

jm08 wrote: »

I don't know why you are bringing him into it. Is he a member of Sinn Fein? Has Sinn Fein defended him over Priory Hall or is this just you slinging mud hoping some will stick?


What are you saying here?

I think he falls into the good republican category rather than the Sinn Fein member category.

jm08

blanch152 wrote: »

I think he falls into the good republican category rather than the Sinn Fein member category.

So has nothing to do with Sinn Fein then? Is he a dissident republican?

blanch152

jm08 wrote: »

So has nothing to do with Sinn Fein then? Is he a dissident republican?

You could call it the Friends of Gerry Adams category too if you want.

LawBoy2018

What does it mean for Leo to remove the whip from the FG senators?

rob316

Seems like a good tactic to vanish, this other shower are doing a monumental job in screwing up.

maccored

blanch152 wrote: »

Nauseating hypocrisy on show from Sinn Fein again today.

https://www.rte.ie/news/politics/2020/0821/1160454-calleary-reaction/


"Sinn Féin's David Cullinane has said Mr Hogan should resign as EU Commissioner.

Speaking on RTÉ's Today with Sarah McInerney, the Waterford TD said Mr Hogan breached guidelines, adding he is "a very, very experienced politician and should have known what the guidelines were."

Deputy Cullinane said the episode "smacks of arrogance" and shows there is "confusion, chaos and dysfunction at the heart of the Government".

Where was he when Michelle O'Neill, Conor Murphy, Mary-Lou et al all broke the lockdown rules and attended Bobby Storey's funeral.

As is normal, the one rule for Sinn Fein, one rule for others continues within the state within a state.



P.S. I am on record stating that Jerry Buttimer and Dara Calleary were right to resign, this is about Sinn Fein hypocrisy.

theres no similarities at all between people attending a funeral in the north (which is a different country according to many of you) and government officials flouting their own guidelines.

Pkiernan

maccored wrote: »

theres no similarities at all between people attending a funeral in the north (which is a different country according to many of you) and government officials flouting their own guidelines.

The virus needs Gerrys permission before infecting Shinners, so they should be OK!

blanch152

maccored wrote: »

theres no similarities at all between people attending a funeral in the north (which is a different country according to many of you) and government officials flouting their own guidelines.

Oh, you are giving Mary-Lou and Pearse a pass, but if I recall correctly, weren't Michelle and Conor at the same funeral flouting their own guidelines.

Once again, the nauseating stink of Sinn Fein hypocrisy permeates these threads.

FrancieBrady

The SF leader has asked the Taoiseach to recall the Dáil, he has refused apparently.

Pkiernan

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The SF leader has asked the Taoiseach to recall the Dáil, he has refused apparently.

I'm i agreement that the Dail should be recalled.
MM is making a mess of everything. Need Leo back in charge.
I'd even take Gerry as boss now..

christy c

Pkiernan wrote: »

I'm i agreement that the Dail should be recalled.
MM is making a mess of everything. Need Leo back in charge.
I'd even take Gerry as boss now..

I agree with the sentiment, but things are only going to get harder from now on (COVID related). The next Taoiseach will possibly have the most difficult time of it in recent decades.

A big help would be to stop shooting themselves in the foot though.

FrancieBrady

FrancieBrady wrote: »

The SF leader has asked the Taoiseach to recall the Dáil, he has refused apparently.

I thought she'd stay quiet given the Storey mock funeral debacle.

Right thing to do even if the wrong person is calling for it.

markodaly

maccored wrote: »

theres no similarities at all between people attending a funeral in the north (which is a different country according to many of you) and government officials flouting their own guidelines.

Apart from the fact MoN and all the northern NI SF crew did in fact flout their own guidelines? SF are in government in the North, are they not?

atticu

maccored wrote: »

theres no similarities at all between people attending a funeral in the north (which is a different country according to many of you) and government officials flouting their own guidelines.

Are you trying to say that Northern Ireland and the Republic of Ireland are one and the same country?

BQQ

Pkiernan wrote: »

I'm i agreement that the Dail should be recalled.
MM is making a mess of everything. Need Leo back in charge.
I'd even take Gerry as boss now..

Last I checked Leo was the deputy leader of the current government
He is in charge!

markodaly

BQQ wrote: »

Last I checked Leo was the deputy leader of the current government
He is in charge!

We don't have two Taoiseach.

blanch152

jh79 wrote: »

I thought she'd stay quiet given the Storey mock funeral debacle.

Right thing to do even if the wrong person is calling for it.

She is handing Leo the opportunity to stand up in the Dail and praise Dara Calleary for doing the right thing by resigning but pointing out the hypocrisy of Mary-Lou defending Conor Murphy and Michelle O'Neill.

Leo took immediate action against his three Senators, no messing, he will come out of this looking good.

BQQ

markodaly wrote: »

We don't have two Taoiseach.

*Taoisigh

We do have a Tánaiste though