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So are you feeling about all this?

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    #122
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    I find it interesting. I don't care about people I don't know dying. I'd be upset about children but children are far less vulnerable to it. I find the restrictions annoying but necessary. My favourite place to go with my kid was closed which was annoying. But it was turned into a field hospital so I can't complain about that.

    I'm aware that I was being mocked for preparing when people were scoffing at the idea of this happening. Now the same people won't stop going on about it and are scared.

    Personally I was scared for a while before it got here - for my son rather than myself or anything else. Then I saw that children rarely are badly affected and I stopped being afraid.


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    #123
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    Purgative wrote: »
    Even though I find Boris Johnson an obnoxious, Tory, Eton, bully-boy pr1ck, I'm quite sad and concerned that he's in ICU. I hope he's OK.
    Why?


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    #124
    Purgative
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    Kenley Nervous Surgery wrote: »
    Why?


    Because it knocks my normal off its axis. Um, Oh yeah, and I'm not a sociopath.


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    #125
    Wibbs
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    Kenley Nervous Surgery wrote: »
    Then I saw that children rarely are badly affected and I stopped being afraid.
    This for me is the biggest relief in all of this. It's not killing young people. And before examples are trotted out of 18 year olds dying from it, they're incredibly rare and every one of them had underlying conditions, mostly serious ones. It;s very sad on a personal level, but a huge bloody relief on a societal one. It's very different to the 1918 flu pandemic. It hit the young adult population hard. In some small communities when it was done and dusted they were left with mostly children and old people. If Covid was killing twenty five year olds what tragedy there is now would be so so much worse and the world would be in a lot more trouble. Imagine if the death toll was reversed in demographics and the middle aged and older were unlikely to get sick and die, but we were seeing ICU's and morgues full of 10 to 30 year olds. That would be a horror. And I say that as a 52 year old. A choice between me and a 20 year old is not a choice really.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #126
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    Purgative wrote: »
    Because it knocks my normal off its axis. Um, Oh yeah, and I'm not a sociopath.

    It has me struggling big time now.


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    #127
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    Purgative wrote: »
    Because it knocks my normal off its axis. Um, Oh yeah, and I'm not a sociopath.
    I'm not a sociopath either but I don't care if he dies.

    Loads of people die horribly all the time. Nobody has capacity to care about all of them. So I find it strange that people choose to care about people they dislike.

    But I can understand why someone might find it unsettling that someone as central and insulated from harm as Johnson is in danger. It's because it would make them feel less secure themselves.


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    #128
    Wibbs
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    Kenley Nervous Surgery wrote: »
    But I can understand why someone might find it unsettling that someone as central and insulated from harm as Johnson is in danger.
    In normal circumstances he would be much more insulated and protected than most alrught B, but as jobs go, being a politician in a pandemic is not the healthiest, especially with an illness with an asymptomatic but infectious stage. He was meeting loads of people up close and personal and pressing the flesh with all and sundry only a few weeks ago.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #129
    beggars_bush
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    Have actually chatted to some of our neighbours as they walk past the house

    Usually they just fly past in the car


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    #130
    Purgative
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    Kenley Nervous Surgery wrote: »
    I'm not a sociopath either but I don't care if he dies.

    Loads of people die horribly all the time. Nobody has capacity to care about all of them. So I find it strange that people choose to care about people they dislike.

    But I can understand why someone might find it unsettling that someone as central and insulated from harm as Johnson is in danger. It's because it would make them feel less secure themselves.


    Maybe "sociopath" was a poor choice of words I meant something around human empathy.


    That aside this is a bad time for any country to be without a leader particularly a country closest to us, and particularly a leader as maverick non-consulting, Cummins puppet as Johnson.


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    #131
    begbysback
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    Kenley Nervous Surgery wrote: »
    I'm not a sociopath either but I don't care if he dies.

    Loads of people die horribly all the time. Nobody has capacity to care about all of them. So I find it strange that people choose to care about people they dislike.

    But I can understand why someone might find it unsettling that someone as central and insulated from harm as Johnson is in danger. It's because it would make them feel less secure themselves.

    Your not expected to care about everyone, but a moment of compassion for ill people at this time would be considered a natural reaction, whether they be public elected officials, tv personalities, or just Mary next door.


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    #132
    yosser hughes
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    Purgative wrote: »
    Even though I find Boris Johnson an obnoxious, Tory, Eton, bully-boy pr1ck, I'm quite sad and concerned that he's in ICU. I hope he's OK.

    That's interesting. When did you meet Boris Johnson?


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    #133
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    Kenley Nervous Surgery wrote: »
    I'm not a sociopath either but I don't care if he dies.

    Loads of people die horribly all the time. Nobody has capacity to care about all of them. So I find it strange that people choose to care about people they dislike.

    But I can understand why someone might find it unsettling that someone as central and insulated from harm as Johnson is in danger. It's because it would make them feel less secure themselves.

    You seem remarkably lacking in empathy. The first think I thought of last night when I heard Boris was in ICU was his pregnant sick girlfriend and his 5 kids, none of whom will be able to visit him or be with him regardless of whats happens over the next few days.

    I dont dislike Boris, I think he is a big bumbling Eton boy that still acts like an idiot at times and in some ways that is appealing. He is not a bad person. He has done the OPPOSITE of insulating himself from harm and danger lately. In fact he should have put himself first 10 days ago! He had been seen out and about, shaking hands, visiting hospitals (inadvisedly) , but trying to keep up a public face in all of this.

    If anything happens him the picture in my head will be of him clapping last Thursday night at his front door, looking very unwell, but doing this for morale and solidarity with NHS workers and the public.

    I sincerely hope he recovers. Unlike you OP I frequently care about many people I don't know and have never met when I hear they are in trouble or their life is in danger.


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    #134
    Purgative
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    yosser hughes wrote: »
    That's interesting. When did you meet Boris Johnson?


    I have a perception and an opinion of you yosser. To my knowledge I haven't met you or Johnson. :cool:


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    #135
    yosser hughes
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    Purgative wrote: »
    I have a perception and an opinion of you yosser. To my knowledge I haven't met you or Johnson. :cool:

    Thanks for clearing that up.


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    #136
    s7ryf3925pivug
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    You seem remarkably lacking in empathy. The first think I thought of last night when I heard Boris was in ICU was his pregnant sick girlfriend and his 5 kids, none of whom will be able to visit him or be with him regardless of whats happens over the next few days.

    I dont dislike Boris, I think he is a big bumbling Eton boy that still acts like an idiot at times and in some ways that is appealing. He is not a bad person. He has done the OPPOSITE of insulating himself from harm and danger lately. In fact he should have put himself first 10 days ago! He had been seen out and about, shaking hands, visiting hospitals (inadvisedly) , but trying to keep up a public face in all of this.

    If anything happens him the picture in my head will be of him clapping last Thursday night at his front door, looking very unwell, but doing this for morale and solidarity with NHS workers and the public.

    I sincerely hope he recovers. Unlike you OP I frequently care about many people I don't know and have never met when I hear they are in trouble or their life is in danger.
    Nah this is just posing. You bash me for lacking empathy because I'm not posing. Which displays - a lack of empathy.

    You were all so concerned when it was Chinese people experiencing this, along with horrific restrictions such as being locked into their apartments for over 40 days straight :rolleyes: The reason you are concerned now is that it makes you personally feel less safe. Which you pretend is empathy but is just fear.


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    #137
    Notsomindful
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    Right now, I am fed up of being out of routine.

    My grandmother is dying and I cant be near her.

    I am angry at people still thinking this is just a flu and going about life as if they are above the restrictions.

    Its crap right now but on a positive note my house has never been cleaner or more sorted/ tidied up.


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