Supporting craft breweries

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120683001#Comment_120683001

The reason they can't offer a tour of the distillery, is because it's not a distillery. 🤣

It closed about 50 years ago when they all moved down to Cork. Bow St. Is purely a tourist attraction. But there's other working distilleries not too far away that you can visit.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120685740#Comment_120685740

Ya but in the original tour you walked around the old building and they had mock ups of the distillery followed by the viewing gallery on the stack.

All that is gone now and it's just a brief chat and a tasting all in one room. Felt pretty ripped of and definitely wished I hadn't booked the 10am "tour".

AlmightyCushion

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120685866#Comment_120685866

I'm really disappointed to hear that. I done it years ago and really enjoyed it. Always recommended it to people.

Citizen Six

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120685866#Comment_120685866

I've never been to the original tour. Just did a few group tour things that started off there.

I've never been one for tours like that anyway. I prefer to see equipment and barrel warehouses that are in use.

dominatinMC

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120685601#Comment_120685601

On a side note, they have ruined The Curragower with the recent developments imo. It always branded itself as a gastropub which could "transform" to a proper pub at the weekend on the terrace. It's completely lost that charm now though and is just another wannabe upmarket eatery for insta huns. Disappointing to say the least.

JJs all the way baby

Passenger

Underdog opening Tuesday 20th.

https://twitter.com/UnderDogDub/status/1669713104245080064?s=20

Tinter Box

Did anyone go? Much changed inside?

feylya

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120744348#Comment_120744348

It's in a brand new location, so it's completely different to the last two places. Standard Underdog opening night sweatbox. It'll be interesting to see how it changes over time, especially when they start doing food.

JayRoc

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120744763#Comment_120744763

They're gonna start doing food? Pity. I kinda prefer my bars to be gargle-only but nowadays it's such a rarity.

Actually one of the things I liked best about Underdog but such is life.

BlueSkyDreams

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120744815#Comment_120744815

Yeah but if it helps keeps them in business I am all for it.

That spot at the top of Capel street seems to be a real challenge for businesses to prevail.

Hopefully Underdog can make a go of it.

BlueSkyDreams

newish large stay city hotel by Smithfield market plus the new large hotel opening next to the Hacienda should give them a good stream of 5 minute walk tourist beer hunters also. If they advertise in those local hotels.

TaurenDruid

Very full last night, it didn't start thinning out until after 10. Bumped into lots of people I knew. Usual great selection of beer (unless you wanted a clear/west coast IPA!) Really hope they can break the hoodoo on that particular location, but if anyone can do it, Paddy can.

Hodors Appletart

Yeah, I went in for a couple of hours, echo what everyone else said really, excellent selection as per, and solid regular taps too.

The Lapsang Souchong Lambic was one of the most challenging beers I've ever drank, really interesting, and just like a Rauchbier, once you got over the smokey notes it settled down to the base beer coming through.

Just about the comment on the heat in the place, I never remember that location being like that before, so it was surely just a function of the weather.

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120745412#Comment_120745412

That doesn't sound like a great selection, at all.

irish_goat

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120747674#Comment_120747674

Seems to be the standard now. Bullhouse and Boundary taprooms are both local to me and stock plenty of IPAs. On my last visit, between the 2 of them, there was 1 non-hazy on the boards (a 3.8% session).

Hotblack Desiato

Was in the Porterhouse on Parliament St. the other day.

Some of the draught beers on the menu were shown as "16oz" with no metric equivalent, that means zip to me and pretty much everyone else except American tourists.

Is this legal?

Bad form in any case.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120748045#Comment_120748045

We're the beers available in pint or 16oz or was it just 16oz ?

Not sure about legal and would imagine it's fine as long as they have the correct glassware ( I doubt there is 16oz stamped glasses so could be an issue there )

It's pretty douchy though and if they are not also selling that beer in pints then it's a sneaky way to up the price without upping the price.

Hotblack Desiato

Only offered as 16oz. I didn't order one so don't know about the glassware but if it said "16oz" on the side I still wouldn't know what I was really getting without looking it up. It's a meaningless unit for almost everyone.

AFAIK the only non-metric drinks measures which are allowed are draught beer and cider in pint and half pint and anything else must be stated in mL. Would be nice if someone could confirm if this is correct.

Most of the draught stuff was pints but we all know what a pint is! La Chouffe on draught was 330mL (had one too, nice glass!)

All of the bottled beers had mL quantity stated as far as I could see.

They explicitly stated that a spirit measure was 35.5mL, fair enough.

Porterhouse has gone seriously downhill over the last few years I'm afraid but still a decent spot if you want food on the way to going somewhere else.

adaminho

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120748415#Comment_120748415

We often offer beer as 2/3 of a pint but they are 330ml glassware.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120748415#Comment_120748415

I have served 1/3 and 2/3 pint but couldn't tell you if it's legal or not.

16oz to me seems like when a chocolate bar gets smaller rather than up the price. Someone will order an IPA and get a sort of pint looking thing at a reasonable price for an actual pint.

Pen Rua

That's an odd choice. 16oz is a US pint. So, if someone asks for a pint of beer, they do get a pint - just an American pint as opposed to imperial.

breezy1985

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120748543#Comment_120748543

Now that would definitely be illegal if the person says "pint". But ya Ide say they hope people will just say 1 beer please and not notice. Many people order a pint without say the "pint" bit.

TaurenDruid

It's illegal, AFAIK. The "pint" referred to is an Imperial pint - 568ml, which is 20 fluid ounces, not 16. And some of that 16 will be foam. Would there be any enforcement? Probably not?

Another part of the 'downsizing'/price inflation that's been going on lately; loads of craft beers stopped coming in 500ml bottles/cans over the last few years, too, and is now only in 440ml or 330ml.

Brock Turnpike

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120748415#Comment_120748415

Agree with your last paragraph. I was in Tapped recently and didn't enjoy it all. For all the "51 Taps" marketing, I didn't really feel the variety of beers was all that great.

TaurenDruid

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120747674#Comment_120747674

The selection was excellent: there were two nitro stouts, at least two imperial stouts, an amber ale, a red ale, a lambic sour, a Helles, a... actually, you can see the list here: https://taplist.io/underdog

That's all on draught. They also had a decent selection of cans/bottles. The only thing missing as far as I was concerned was a sessionable (5% or less) west coast IPA on draught. I ended up switching to having a couple of cans of an American IPA which was decent but a little too strong for me.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120748438#Comment_120748438

Well then you're not actually giving people what you say you are, 2/3 of a pint is 378mL...

I would have no problem with places offering whatever oddball size beer they want provided it's clearly stated in mL what it is.

Hotblack Desiato

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120748543#Comment_120748543

They're not getting what Irish law understands to be a pint or what the customer understands to be a pint.

BeerNut

The Porterhouse has done this for years, there's nothing "lately" about it. But yes, it's completely illegal. They can serve beer by the 473ml glass, but they can't advertise it as "16oz".

Enforcement of consumer laws for things like this is abysmal in Ireland generally. Barely an imported can is legal.

the beer revolu

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120748744#Comment_120748744

I don't consider a selection that lacks a basic craft beer style excellent, at all.

IPAs were the original craft beer style. To me, not having a west coast IPA (remember when they were just called IPAs?) is akin to not having any stout or lager on tap.

bokale

https://www.boards.ie/discussion/comment/120748744#Comment_120748744

Just had a look there. What an excellent selection.