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    #1112
    Zaph
    Registered Users, Subscribers Posts: 47,305 ✭✭✭✭Zaph


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Didn't similar happen in the US when one of the owners of a craft brewery turned out to be a massive sexist/racist? Did huge damage to them IIRC. White Hag need to get out from under this and fast.

    Founders


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    #1113
    L1011
    Registered Users Posts: 68,782 ✭✭✭✭L1011


    Hotblack Desiato wrote: »
    Didn't similar happen in the US when one of the owners of a craft brewery turned out to be a massive sexist/racist? Did huge damage to them IIRC. White Hag need to get out from under this and fast.

    Founders. They did not handle it well.


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    #1114
    Ivefoundgod
    Registered Users Posts: 2,447 ✭✭✭Ivefoundgod


    I'd agree with others, I'm now an awful lot less likely to buy their beer. Thats no reflection on the staff of white hag or the quality of their beer nor am I calling on the guy to be sacked but the reality is that while people can have free speech and he is entitled to his (extreme IMO) views, you are not free from the consequences of those views. If you lose customers because you are openly supporting a far right organisation like the proud boys you can't turn around and say "free speech" or "I'm just expressing my view".


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    #1115
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    Well, if anyone feels like stepping in to help them manage this mess, they are hiring a Communications & Marketing Exec...

    https://www.thewhitehag.com/2021/01/11/comms_marketing-exec/


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    #1116
    youcancallmeal
    Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    Could be a good time to bring in a new head brewer and refocus on what they're doing. They must've released close to 25 new beers last year which were mostly forgettable or downright awful. Malafemmena was the only one I can remember really liking. Boxtravaganza was brilliant though, I hope they do it again this year if the festival isn't going ahead on site.


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    #1117
    s8n
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    youcancallmeal wrote: »
    Could be a good time to bring in a new head brewer and refocus on what they're doing. They must've released close to 25 new beers last year which were mostly forgettable or downright awful. Malafemmena was the only one I can remember really liking. Boxtravaganza was brilliant though, I hope they do it again this year if the festival isn't going ahead on site.

    Atlantean was a fantastic beer


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    #1118
    youcancallmeal
    Registered Users Posts: 8,019 ✭✭✭youcancallmeal


    s8n wrote: »
    Atlantean was a fantastic beer

    Yeah it's pretty good but was first released in 2017 I believe


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    #1119
    Pen Rua
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    Ireland Craft Beverages are there international distributor, I'm guessing? Who are they with in Ireland - have they let them go too? I wonder, contractually, how Ireland Craft Beverages can drop them?


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    #1120
    L1011
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    Pen Rua wrote: »
    Ireland Craft Beverages are there international distributor, I'm guessing? Who are they with in Ireland - have they let them go too? I wonder, contractually, how Ireland Craft Beverages can drop them?

    Grand Cru. Who, going on what they retweet on Twitter, may tilt somewhat left of centre politically.

    Many of these sorts of contracts have get outs for reputational risk.


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    #1121
    DelmarODonnell
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭DelmarODonnell


    L1011 wrote: »
    Grand Cru. Who, going on what they retweet on Twitter, may tilt somewhat left of centre politically.

    Many of these sorts of contracts have get outs for reputational risk.

    Janey, I always get the impression they do a lot of exporting aswell. That would be a huge blow.


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    #1122
    [Deleted User]
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    DelmarODonnell wrote: »
    Janey, I always get the impression they do a lot of exporting aswell. That would be a huge blow.

    Out of most English people I know, White Hag are the Irish craft beer brand most of them would be familiar with.


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    #1123
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    L1011 wrote: »
    https://twitter.com/IrelandCraft/status/1352007147236827140

    edit: that tweets been deleted and his protected his own account now

    Also protected his instagram

    https://twitter.com/IrelandCraft/status/1352152433712128003

    This is the Proud Boys support/defence Instagram post

    Both tweets from Ireland Craft Beverages have been deleted, it seems.


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    #1124
    the beer revolu
    Registered Users Posts: 17,003 ✭✭✭✭the beer revolu


    Pen Rua wrote: »
    Both tweets from Ireland Craft Beverages have been deleted, it seems.

    This is the kind of shltstorm that isn't good for any business, I don't know why they willingly walked themselves into it.


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    #1125
    L1011
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    They may be hoping a cleanup of old social posts will be enough and, realistically, it probably will be unless some bored journo needs a story


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    #1126
    Hotblack Desiato
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    By "they" do you mean ICB, WH or both?

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1127
    L1011
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    Both possibly! WH more so.

    My box for the bingo tomorrow hasn't arrived as it happens but I presume my Zoom code or whatever will so it'll be interesting to see if it's just Bob on his own or what.


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    #1128
    Hotblack Desiato
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    I'd find it very uncomfortable working alongside someone if I found out they have views like that, and I'm a straight white guy, imagine if you were a minority working in WH?

    Not good. Not good at all. Free speech doesn't mean free from consequences and I think WH are making a huge mistake if they think they can just brush this under the carpet and say nothing. Ireland is a small country, sooner or later this WILL hit the media.

    Fingal County Council are certainly not competent to be making decisions about the most important piece of infrastructure on the island. They need to stick to badly designed cycle lanes and deciding on whether Mrs Murphy can have her kitchen extension.



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    #1129
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    US brewery Bear Republic has landed in Ireland - first up in Craft Central.

    https://craftcentral.ie/collections/bear-republic


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    #1130
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    There it is now:

    https://twitter.com/TheWhiteHag/status/1352327437133217796

    My beer blog | The Twitter | My other beer blog



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    #1131
    BalboBiggins
    Registered Users Posts: 232 ✭✭BalboBiggins


    Lads are there any craft collections that are considered the best?


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    #1132
    Pen Rua
    Registered Users Posts: 1,989 ✭✭✭Pen Rua


    BeerNut wrote: »
    There it is now:

    https://twitter.com/TheWhiteHag/status/1352327437133217796

    Reasoned response from them and no indication anyone is losing their job over this which is good imo.


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    #1133
    L1011
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    "an employee" isn't that substantive a term for your head brewer and partial owner.


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    #1134
    MonkstownHoop
    Registered Users Posts: 3,196 ✭✭✭MonkstownHoop


    Pen Rua wrote: »
    US brewery Bear Republic has landed in Ireland - first up in Craft Central.

    https://craftcentral.ie/collections/bear-republic

    I've bought their beer here before


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    #1135
    ciaran76
    Registered Users Posts: 4,694 ✭✭✭ciaran76


    MonkstownHoop wrote: »
    I've bought their beer here before

    Yeah I remember Racer 5 available here back about 6/7 years ago.


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    #1136
    BeerNut
    Moderators, Recreation & Hobbies Moderators Posts: 11,865 Mod ✭✭✭✭BeerNut


    ciaran76 wrote: »
    Yeah I remember Racer 5 available here back about 6/7 years ago.
    Marks & Spencer was selling Racer 5 and Grand-Am two years ago.

    My beer blog | The Twitter | My other beer blog



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    #1137
    MidlanderMan
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭MidlanderMan


    BeerNut wrote: »
    There it is now:

    https://twitter.com/TheWhiteHag/status/1352327437133217796

    Bit of a cop out describing one of the owners as an "employee" and it goes beyond political opinion. He's sharing unhinged proud boys and qAnon sh*te. The later especially being rooted in deeply anti-semetic bigotry is extremely problematic.

    They essentially made a statement to say they aren't making a statement.


    If there was no really problematic posts, why has he scrubbed his Instagram?


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    #1138
    RasTa
    Closed Accounts Posts: 15,116 ✭✭✭✭RasTa


    I've met Joe a few times at festivals, he had a stinky pipe the last time.

    Seemed a bit of a mess. It's always the feckin immigrants moaning about other immigrants.

    Ah here, someone just sent me pictures of him talking about that Q crap and save the children etc.


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    #1139
    DelmarODonnell
    Registered Users Posts: 153 ✭✭DelmarODonnell


    RasTa wrote: »
    I've met Joe a few times at festivals, he had a stinky pipe the last time.

    Seemed a bit of a mess. It's always the feckin immigrants moaning about other immigrants.

    Ah here, someone just sent me pictures of him talking about that Q crap and save the children etc.

    He is firmly in the Gemma O'Doherty category here. Bleedin hell.

    What a mess.


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    #1140
    MidlanderMan
    Registered Users Posts: 663 ✭✭✭MidlanderMan


    RasTa wrote: »
    I've met Joe a few times at festivals, he had a stinky pipe the last time.

    Seemed a bit of a mess. It's always the feckin immigrants moaning about other immigrants.

    Ah here, someone just sent me pictures of him talking about that Q crap and save the children etc.

    He's deleted everything from his Instagram. I'd imagine his parlar and telegram accounts are a total cluster ****.


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    #1141
    TXPTGR1
    Registered Users Posts: 234 ✭✭TXPTGR1


    MidlanderMan wrote: »
    He's deleted everything from his Instagram. I'd imagine his parlar and telegram accounts are a total cluster ****.

    Got any screenshots you can PM?


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