Sinister tension in the air

ShatterAlan

Raconteuse wrote: »

This is what I worry about. Lowlives do exploit these kinds of situations. My friend in London said there's scum going around homes pretending to be NHS reps to carry out testing. :mad:

You just want to spend your time worrying, don't you?


If someone knocked on your door during an election and announced that they had to test you verbally for your ability to pronounce all the candidates name and that it would cost you £50 then wah t would you say?


Would ou pony up and go through the list or would you set the fcuking dog on them?


There's low-lifes 24/7/365 mate.

ShatterAlan

suicide_circus wrote: »

it could be that they are virtually the only ones on the street so your eye dwells on them longer

You have a really nasty streak in you.

il gatto

tdf7187 wrote: »

It's the old adage, a small amount of power is a dangerous thing. All the security guards in the world are enjoying this. The only valid reason to chose such a career is because you failed the test to get into the police, let's face it.

Most security do it for a few quid to make ends meet and the less hassle they have the better. Any that are aggro prone are weeded out pretty quickly. You want to see someone abuse their power, give them an arrest card and the weight of the Department of Justice behind them.

ShatterAlan

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Vernon Ave.

1) What are they doing there.
2) What is the parents plan here
3) Could they **** off

What do young people do? They meet up with their friends, girlfriends, boyfriends,


Weren't you ever a teenager?



What did teenagers before, during and after Bloody Sunday do? Did they sit at home and say I'm going to wait here with my thumb up my arse until 1998 when I'm 57 and see if Ciara is still out there?


Did kids meet each other and lovers try to make contact during the Blitz? What about in Damascus for the last 7 years? You think teenagers there just want to stay home and forget about their mates or their romances?


How many centuries ago were you a teenager?

amacca

ShatterAlan wrote: »

What did teenagers before, during and after Bloody Sunday do? Did they sit at home and say I'm going to wait here with my thumb up my arse until 1998 when I'm 57 and see if Ciara is still out there?

Ah **** it they could wait for a couple of weeks, we all know Ciara will still be there and their thumbs don't need to go anywhere near their holes in the meantime.


And if they do the FFs wash they should at least wash their hands thoroughly afterward.

FixdePitchmark

ShatterAlan wrote: »

What do young people do? They meet up with their friends, girlfriends, boyfriends,


Weren't you ever a teenager?



What did teenagers before, during and after Bloody Sunday do? Did they sit at home and say I'm going to wait here with my thumb up my arse until 1998 when I'm 57 and see if Ciara is still out there?


Did kids meet each other and lovers try to make contact during the Blitz? What about in Damascus for the last 7 years? You think teenagers there just want to stay home and forget about their mates or their romances?


How many centuries ago were you a teenager?

It's ok , you let your kids out.

Hopefully, you and other parents like you will cop on before the government have to lock everyone up.

But , as an uncle of mine used to say , "you can have your ****e" if you think I'm getting locked down for **** parents and spoilt children.

You can talk about irrelevant history all you like , but these kids have food , internet, porn and more . Talking about the blitz in that context is pathetic.

Mongfinder General

fonecrusher1 wrote: »

There's a sinister tension in the air because those of us with half a brain who are following the social distancing advice are understandably nervous that the fate of thousands of peoples lives are the in the hands of the thick as sh1t muppets that are still not taking this seriously.

The sooner emergency law is passed so that these groups of idiots can be physically persuaded off the streets the better.

Spot on. Our government has a huge opportunity here. Get the cops and army on the streets. Any muppet that opens their mouth, scoop them up and **** them into a secure facility. Introduce internment if needs be. And forget fining parents because 1. The little scrote usually doesn't have two parents and the one they have is either over burdened or doesn't give a **** 2. They won't pay.

This is the perfect cloak to lash into the scum in this country.

Raconteuse

ShatterAlan wrote: »

You just want to spend your time worrying, don't you?.

No. There is a risk of scumbags exploiting this. Saying "there are loads of lowlives" doesn't change that one bit.

Why are you comparing Bloody Sunday to a highly contagious virus? Yeah people do stay at home in war zones. Or they go out at great risk.

Why are you so angry about the measures to stem a potentially deadly virus's spread? It killed nearly 800 people in Italy in 24 hours.

Why such a problem for you? It's a pain in the arse for everyone but it's necessary to reduce the possibility of a situation like those of Italy and Spain. It's not about being blindly obedient. It's not even about getting the virus if you're healthy and young/relatively young. It's about bloody well reducing the risk of loved ones (and all others) who are old/ill/immuno-compromised from getting seriously ill or dying. Nobody is thinking "I'd better do what the government says", they're thinking they'd better do whatever it takes to prevent an Italy or Spain situation. They are thinking about other ordinary people, not the government ffs.

It's about trying to limit the burden as much as possible for an already stretched health service. They have to deal with other patients too - not just covid-19 patients.

It's about people doing their bit for not just their own sake but that of others. If you admire communist societies, surely you see merit in that

But "waaaaah it's oppressing me" and nit picking at valid concerns just to be contrarian, and firing out allegations that people are just blindly deferential in all circumstances... requires growing up and thinking about others.

Leg End Reject

growleaves wrote: »

Its a prediction. I hope its wrong.



Emergency legislation to detain people was passed the other day. It was on the front page of the IT.

The legislation has been published. It specifically relates to Corona, will expire on May 9th with the option to extend it to November if the situation isn't under control.

It's not the stealth introduction of communism, governments aren't using the virus as an opportunity to control the masses.

growleaves

The sooner emergency law is passed so that these groups of idiots can be physically persuaded off the streets the better.

Spot on. Our government has a huge opportunity here. Get the cops and army on the streets. Any muppet that opens their mouth, scoop them up and **** them into a secure facility. Introduce internment if needs be. And forget fining parents because 1. The little scrote usually doesn't have two parents and the one they have is either over burdened or doesn't give a **** 2. They won't pay.

This is the perfect cloak to lash into the scum in this country.

Commenters talk openly of their desire for a police state and martial law.

On another thread on boards a commenter praised Chinese authorities for welding people inside their apartments (effectively murdering them).

Do I need to explain what's wrong with this? I think I'll just go to bed instead.

Raconteuse

Leg End Reject wrote: »

The legislation has been published. It specifically relates to Corona, will expire on May 9th with the option to extend it to November if the situation isn't under control.

It's not the stealth introduction of communism, governments aren't using the virus as an opportunity to control the masses.

They're going on as if it's a definite. As if Ireland is such an oppressive state, when people never stop bitching about the government here.

Raconteuse

growleaves wrote: »

Commenters talk openly of their desire for a police state and martial law.

On another thread on boards a commenter praised Chinese authorities for welding people inside their apartments (effectively murdering them).

Do I need to explain what's wrong with this? I think I'll just go to bed instead.

They're words on the internet - they're just lashing out at gimps who go around touching people. I'd be more bothered about complacency and absurd conspiracy theories/misinformation.

Why more concern about teenagers temporarily not hanging out together than reducing the spread of this?

Leg End Reject

Raconteuse wrote: »

They're going on as if it's a definite. As if Ireland is such an oppressive state, when people never stop bitching about the government here.

While they're bitching they might also give some consideration to the fact that the legislation also covers emergency social welfare provision for those affected, rather than hauling off and torturing the newly unemployed.

punisher5112

I see the UK had hit the phase we had last Thursday. Panic buying.

UK were so stupid not doing anything.

Die Hard 2019

tdf7187 wrote: »

It's the old adage, a small amount of power is a dangerous thing. All the security guards in the world are enjoying this. The only valid reason to chose such a career is because you failed the test to get into the police, let's face it.

i was a security guard when I was studying in college. I don't believe anyone is enjoying the pandemic.

Raconteuse

Die Hard 2019 wrote: »

i was a security guard when I was studying in college. I don't believe anyone is enjoying the pandemic.

I think the only people enjoying it are the ones whining about oppression and people being deferential.

nthclare

growleaves wrote: »

Commenters talk openly of their desire for a police state and martial law.

On another thread on boards a commenter praised Chinese authorities for welding people inside their apartments (effectively murdering them).

Do I need to explain what's wrong with this? I think I'll just go to bed instead.

I think you're jumping too far ahead of yourself there.

People are saying get the dregs, lugs and scumbags off the streets.

There's as many scumbags in high society if not way more as well as the poverty spectrum.

Being a tosser or careless disease spreader doesn't discriminate.

People who are responsible and have common sense behave themselves.

I know someone who's an absolute germ phobe and she would run a mile or stand well away if you had a sniffle.
Almost treat you like a leper.

Now im told she has the corona virus.

Leg End Reject

Die Hard 2019 wrote: »

i was a security guard when I was studying in college. I don't believe anyone is enjoying the pandemic.

I'm sorry now, Die Hard, we had an expert on here earlier who proclaimed you were on a power trip. You failed to get into the army or guards and this was your opportunity to control.

Therefore, you must be enjoying it.

/sarcasm

growleaves

They're going on as if it's a definite. As if Ireland is such an oppressive state, when people never stop bitching about the government here.

Some of the politicians debating the legislation expresed their own scepticism of government power.

It was the Irish Council of Civil Liberties who suggested that the powers be time-limited. The Government didn't come up with that itself.

I think the only people enjoying it are the ones whining about oppression and people being deferential.

Do you mean me? I don't think the government is oppressing anyone. I think that scepticism - rather than people begging the army to stick guns in people's faces, even if it is just blowing off steam - is appropriate under the circumstances. If its necessary to basically incarcerate the whole country lets not get too comfortable or complacent about that.

ShatterAlan

FixdePitchmark wrote: »

Look in the end the behaviors of a few will get us all locked up for 3/4 weeks.

I'd rather see way more Garda out and about -just their presence is enough

I complete understand operational complications for them - but where the hell are they , only a matter of time that these teens see it is a free world - they are also driving around a bit mad also

Arra bejaysus, you're pure right there, Paudie. You want more public money shpent when you're a little bit worried, but begorrah you complain fierce fasht when 'tis tax money shpent on udder tings.

Raconteuse

growleaves wrote: »

Some of the politicians debating the legislation expresed their own scepticism of government power.

It was the Irish Council of Civil Liberties who suggested that the powers be time-limited. The Government didn't come up with that itself.



Do you mean me? I don't think the government is oppressing anyone. I think that scepticism - rather than people begging the army to stick guns in people's faces, even if it is just blowing off steam - is appropriate under the circumstances. If its necessary to basically incarcerate the whole country lets not get too comfortable or complacent about that.

Nobody wants that. And not letting it get out of hand like it has in Italy should prevent it. What other choice is there in Italy though. They're struggling to cope with the dead bodies even though the country is on lockdown. It's about survival of people there at this stage.

What makes some people think that the government will continue to impose such restrictions for the craic after the virus dissipates? That's not even the case in China.

punisher5112

Just watching sky news, Germany starting lockdown, Italy shutting anything not necessary and more deaths then ever....

What does this mean for the UK who decided to do nothing and are basically only trying catch up now, I honestly believe they left it too late.

Here in Ireland it's not hit home but I honestly am getting worried.

Raconteuse

ShatterAlan wrote: »

Arra bejaysus, you're pure right there, Paudie. You want more public money shpent when you're a little bit worried, but begorrah you complain fierce fasht when 'tis tax money shpent on udder tings.

Where are you getting that from?

Leg End Reject

punisher5112 wrote: »

Just watching sky news, Germany starting lockdown, Italy shutting anything not necessary and more deaths then ever....

What does this mean for the UK who decided to do nothing and are basically only trying catch up now, I honestly believe they left it too late.

Here in Ireland it's not hit home but I honestly am getting worried.

I think a lockdown will happen here eventually to get it under control. Restrictions will be gradually lifted and life will slowly return to normal.

More cases, unfortunately more deaths, and a recession. These events occurred frequently throughout history, it's the first time for us to see them happen concurrently.

Mongfinder General

growleaves wrote: »

Commenters talk openly of their desire for a police state and martial law.

On another thread on boards a commenter praised Chinese authorities for welding people inside their apartments (effectively murdering them).

Do I need to explain what's wrong with this? I think I'll just go to bed instead.

Off you go to sleep and back to the real world as the great Morrissey once said.

growleaves

Mongfinder General wrote: »

Off you go to sleep and back to the real world as the great Morrissey once said.

Lol

ShatterAlan

Jizique wrote: »

Are you seriously suggesting governments are trying to crash their economies and destroy the lives of their citizens?
Do even you believe businesses are looking forward to closing and are salivating at the prospect of their wealth being destroyed? For example, how is Michael O’Leary, still the largest shareholder in Ryanair going to benefit by ending all flights next week?
How are governments going to benefit by destroying the pension savings of their population?

I'll attempt to go through this "petit a petit" and ask a few very simple questions along the way, if that's ok with you.


So we'll start. You have, I'm guessing, heard of the concept "starve the beast economics". It's a method whereby you grind out the wealth of a functioning economy and allow it to stagnate and then have it return to production for half the price. Labour is cheaper because everyone will kill each other for a job and a few dollars just to get back above the breadline. I take it that you're aware of this modis.


Crashing the economy is a perfect way to make more money. Economies come back because there is no shortage of workers to prop them up again in the hope of getting out of the working class.


Answer me this. If you held a billion euros or dollars or whatever in stocks, bonds, warrants and there was an opportunity for you to have them lose their value but for you to dump them and buy them all back again for pennies...what would you do?



Would you say..."good lord, how cheeky a scam?" or would you get even richer?

Raconteuse

Honestly, you'd swear there was no pandemic at all, the way that ShatterAlan member is going on.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Leg End Reject

Raconteuse wrote: »

Honestly, you'd swear there was no pandemic at all, the way that ShatterAlan member is going on.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Stark reading, hopefully it will give some a sense of perspective.

ShatterAlan

Raconteuse wrote: »

I know. The absurd things these folk say which they think make them look so intelligent, have the opposite effect, as they involve no thought whatsoever.

Raconteuse can you tell me truthfully if you were up on high and sitting with so much money and power that it made you wet with every breath and you had the opportunity to slam the economy into the ground and then pick up the scraps for tuppence and do it all again...are you saying you WOULDN'T ...because that's just not cricket?