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Could we have stopped this

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    #212
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    timhenn wrote: »
    That was fg's original thought, let the old people die and we'll save the economy. The reality is and will be, a lot of people will die and the economy will be ****ed. But fg have done a great job. :rolleyes:

    Why will so may conplain about austerity when it comes back? :rolleyes:

    All the vast majority care about is their own circumstances.


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    #213
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    There is actual proof in the virus numbers here that the government acted correctly in terms of when they started the closures.


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    #214
    dh1985
    Registered Users Posts: 586 ✭✭✭dh1985


    timhenn wrote: »
    Oh yeah, it's the lowly peasant's fault. Not those who were meant to be in charge who acted too late and didn't go far enough, not at all.

    Good man tim. At this rate you will be responding to your own posts to keep you hate for the government going and you thread relevant.


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    #215
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    The government acted correctly.

    The public just wont listen.

    They're still letting flights in from countries riddled with this. So they didn't act correctly and they still aren't!

    Blaming the public won't cut it.


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    #216
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    dh1985 wrote: »
    Good man tim. At this rate you will be responding to your own posts to keep you hate for the government going and you thread relevant.

    He cant bring himself to admit that personal responsibility is a thing.


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    #217
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Why will so may conplain about austerity when it comes back? :rolleyes:

    All the vast majority care about is their own circumstances.

    fg have guaranteed austerity and a large number of deaths. And there are people congratulating them!


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    #218
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    There is actual proof in the virus numbers here that the government acted correctly in terms of when they started the closures.

    What numbers? How many are waiting to be tested again?


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    #219
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    timhenn wrote: »
    They're still letting flights in from countries riddled with this. So they didn't act correctly and they still aren't!

    Blaming the public won't cut it.

    Yes. Flying back Irish citizens and residents.


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    #220
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    dh1985 wrote: »
    Good man tim. At this rate you will be responding to your own posts to keep you hate for the government going and you thread relevant.

    When this virus knocks on your door and it spreads further, people will change their tune. Patting the government on the back won't be happening then!


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    #221
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    timhenn wrote: »
    fg have guaranteed austerity and a large number of deaths. And there are people congratulating them!

    How could they have avoided austerity? :rolleyes:


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    #222
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    He cant bring himself to admit that personal responsibility is a thing.

    Why wouldn't I? You can say personal responsibility is a thing and still face up to the reality that those in charge screwed up big time. They're not mutually exclusive.


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    #223
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Yes. Flying back Irish citizens and residents.

    Not only them! And what happens when they land?


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    #224
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    How could they have avoided austerity? :rolleyes:

    That was their strategy remember? To let the old and the sick die and look after the economy. What a disastrous strategy that failed miserably.


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    #225
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    timhenn wrote: »
    That was their strategy remember? To let the old and the sick die and look after the economy. What a disastrous strategy that failed miserably.

    No it wasnt.

    Up north it was under SFDUP.


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    #226
    Raconteuse
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,817 ✭✭✭Raconteuse


    They didn't screw up big time at all.


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    #227
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    No it wasnt.

    Up north it was under SFDUP.

    It was! Their aim was to save the economy and accept that old and sick people had to die to achieve that. Was a disgusting and idiotic plan from the start and it has backfired on them and all of us. Wait till these numbers explode! People won't be as forgiving when they see their loved ones dying.


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    #228
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    Raconteuse wrote: »
    They didn't screw up big time at all.

    You say that now. You'll change your tune. Questions will be asked about their inactions when the death toll rises significantly.


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    #229
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    timhenn wrote: »
    It was! Their aim was to save the economy and accept that old and sick people had to die to achieve that. Was a disgusting and idiotic plan from the start and it has backfired on them and all of us. Wait till these numbers explode! People won't be as forgiving when they see their loved ones dying.

    Give us a list of countries that acted differently.


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    #230
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    Give us a list of countries that acted differently.

    I couldn't give a sh1t what other countries did or didn't do. Obviously, next door got it horribly wrong and others got it right.

    For a small island like ours, we started in a far superior position to most. Somehow those in charge managed to screw it up.


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    #231
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    https://mobile.twitter.com/megankillion/status/1241774255265722369

    The public just arent listen.


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    #232
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    https://mobile.twitter.com/megankillion/status/1241774255265722369

    The public just arent listen.

    And where are fg? Why aren't they doing anything about it? Leo planning another trip abroad?


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    #233
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    timhenn wrote: »
    And where are fg? Why aren't they doing anything about it? Leo planning another trip abroad?

    What do you suggest?


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    #234
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    What do you suggest?

    What do you think? Maybe get up off their lazy holes and do something?


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    #235
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    timhenn wrote: »
    What do you think? Maybe get up off their lazy holes and do something?

    But they have.

    It's up to the people to follow instructions.

    The government has clearly stated that if instruction isn't followed they will have to introduce more draconian laws.


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    #236
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    But they have.

    It's up to the people to follow instructions.

    The government has clearly stated that if instruction isn't followed they will have to introduce more draconian laws.

    When did they instruct people? Why didn't they do it weeks ormonths before?


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    #237
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    timhenn wrote: »
    When did they instruct people? Why didn't they do it weeks ormonths before?

    The WHO told us in January it wasn't going to be a problem.


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    #238
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    The WHO told us in January it wasn't going to be a problem.

    Always blaming someone else, ff were the same. Can they make a decision by themselves? If they were doing their jobs properly, they would have put the lives of Irish people first. They were too busy planning trips abroad.


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    #239
    landofthetree
    Registered Users Posts: 2,344 ✭✭✭landofthetree


    timhenn wrote: »
    Always blaming someone else, ff were the same. Can they make a decision by themselves? If they were doing their jobs properly, they would have put the lives of Irish people first. They were too busy planning trips abroad.

    FG only have 35 seats.

    Besides the Dail have backed all FG legislation so far. Nobody has proposed any other legislation.

    The other parties have run away from government to save their own fat asses.


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    #240
    Tea Shock
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 345 ✭✭Tea Shock


    timhenn wrote: »
    That was their strategy remember? To let the old and the sick die and look after the economy. What a disastrous strategy that failed miserably.

    You wind your neck in and quit making **** up

    We also had Ebola, H1N1 and SARS over the last 15 years or so. Are you going to lock down the ports and airports for months or years at a time every time one of these shows up? You'll be the first one moaning that FDI won't come here anymore and that Irish citizens can't get produce or medicine


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    #241
    timhenn
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 514 ✭✭✭timhenn


    landofthetree wrote: »
    FG only have 35 seats.

    Besides the Dail have backed all FG legislation so far. Nobody has proposed any other legislation.

    What has that got to do with it?

    fg have been asleep at the wheel, it doesn't mean that the others haven't been asleep in the back!

    It's too late now to stop the large number of deaths coming. It's not too late to stop it increasing further. It's time those in charge woke up, got up off their lazy arses and actually put some structure in place to tackle this.


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