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    #392
    CrabRevolution
    Registered Users Posts: 2,851 ✭✭✭CrabRevolution


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Stupid question but how do they verify this?

    "Of these approximately 15,000 did not meet eligibility criteria (for example they were not previously in employment or they were still in employment)"

    I'd imagine revenue records. Everything is online now, you can see every payslip and tax paid through the revenue online service. I can only imagine their in-house system is much more thorough.


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    #393
    hetuzozaho
    Registered Users Posts: 2,840 ✭✭✭hetuzozaho


    easypazz wrote: »
    The computer will say yes or no.

    If you were in the "black" economy you won't have accumulated PRSI contributions.

    If you are over 66 you won't be getting it.

    If you are already on JSA or JSB you won't be getting it.

    And the currently in Employment bit? Or maybe you have covered it and I don't understand. Cheers


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    #394
    aktelmiele
    Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭aktelmiele


    Anybody go their payment yet and how long did it take?

    I know the website says 7 days but wondering what the actual processing time is due to the massive number of applications


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    #395
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    easypazz wrote: »
    If you are already on JSA or JSB you won't be getting it.

    Anyone already unemployed, that may be chancing their arm by applying for the increased rate, should be given a serious looking into when this all comes to an end, for fraud related stuff.


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    #396
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    And the currently in Employment bit? Or maybe you have covered it and I don't understand. Cheers

    Sorry I don't work for them so don't know all the criteria.

    If people want definitive answers info@welfare.ie

    Nobody here can give a comprehensive answer to any question asked.


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    #397
    Plek Trum
    Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭Plek Trum


    Seems people on part time work and in receipt of JB WILL now qualify for the €350?
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0327/1126835-covid-19-payment-part-time-workers/


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    #398
    yammagamma
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭yammagamma


    hi been reading throught this but i cant find if it has been asked.

    has anyone calculated how tax credits and bands are working with wage subsidy scheme if the employer is not topping up wages as reading on citizens information said more then likely your entitled to tax and usc back on top of the wage subsidy of 70% and your employer pays you this and they claim it back >??
    has anyone done a calculator for this.
    thanks


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    #399
    yammagamma
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭yammagamma


    Income tax, USC, LPT, if applicable, and PRSI are not deducted from the Temporary Wage Subsidy.

    In many cases, the payment of the COVID-19 Temporary Wage Subsidy and any additional income paid by the employer will result in the refund of income tax or USC already paid by the employee. Any income tax and USC refunds that arise as a result of the application of tax credits and rate bands can be repaid by the employer and Revenue will also refund this amount to the employer.

    i forgot to add that to last post from citizens information


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    #400
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Stupid question but how do they verify this?

    "Of these approximately 15,000 did not meet eligibility criteria (for example they were not previously in employment or they were still in employment)"

    Not previously in employment = people on jobseekers already or simply people who weren’t working or reviving a payment

    People still in employment = people who ticked the ‘currently in employment’ box on the form (eg hours reduced, days cut etc) or people who continue to be paid (checks with revenue)


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    #401
    yammagamma
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭yammagamma


    another question re the subsidy scheme
    is net pay net of normal weekly pension contributions as a friend of mine his weekly net pay is just under the 586 euro with his weekly pension contribution


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    #402
    Just Saying
    Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭Just Saying


    jimiseve wrote: »
    Can anyone clarify if a company, which has ceased trading, apply for the Employers Subsidy Scheme when their employees have applied for the €350 COVID unemployment benefit? Can it be just one or the other?



    Yes they can participate in the scheme.The employees will have to cease their claim for the Covid payment from DEASP...if they dont cease it Revenue will be in contact with DEASP and cease it for them.


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    #403
    Just Saying
    Registered Users Posts: 305 ✭✭Just Saying


    Conall Cernach wrote: »
    Apologies if this has been answered previously.

    My parents are both in their 70s with underlying medical problems and are cocooning. How will they lift their pensions?

    If they fill out the Temporary Agent form from the PO they can nominate someone to collect it


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    #404
    zom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    Friend of mine got her job seriously reduced because covid pandemic, and she is offered one day week which means something like €500 per month from her employer. She checked out Jobseekr Benefit and it seems if she could get it all together something about €280 per week, much less than if she get reduced completely. But her employer doesn't want to let her go, possibly because she's entitled to some redundancy payment. What about such situation? She's terrified as there is no possible jobs cumming and she is facing homelessness as she doesn't want to go back to her parents farm.
    Is there any possible option she missed as for €350 covid unemployment you have to be officially reduced and Wage Subsidiary Scheme doesn't seems working for everyone?


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    #405
    yammagamma
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭yammagamma


    redundancy rules have changed with the new legisation and the time frame can be extended.


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    #406
    Plek Trum
    Registered Users Posts: 1,075 ✭✭✭Plek Trum


    Can anyone clarify - my dad is 68, full time worker and has lost employment due to the pandemic. Does he qualify for Covid19 payment (full time worker, paye , prsi etc). All information states applicants up to age of 66? Can this be right?...


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    #407
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Galway20188 wrote: »
    So if I lost my job March 17th and applied but received nothing I should receive 700 Tuesday?

    Am I right?

    You should but wether you will or not remains to be seen.


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    #408
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    Plek Trum wrote: »
    Can anyone clarify - my dad is 68, full time worker and has lost employment due to the pandemic. Does he qualify for Covid19 payment (full time worker, paye , prsi etc). All information states applicants up to age of 66? Can this be right?...

    No he’s not eligible , it’s only for people aged 18 to 66. That’s quite clear on the website. Your dad has his pension?


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    #409
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    hetuzozaho wrote: »
    Stupid question but how do they verify this?

    "Of these approximately 15,000 did not meet eligibility criteria (for example they were not previously in employment or they were still in employment)"

    You had to actually have had a job and have been employed on 13 March to qualify and to have lost that job now.
    People who were not employed at all will have applied. People who are still employed will have applied. These people are not eligible for the payment.


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    #410
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    Plek Trum wrote: »
    Can anyone clarify - my dad is 68, full time worker and has lost employment due to the pandemic. Does he qualify for Covid19 payment (full time worker, paye , prsi etc). All information states applicants up to age of 66? Can this be right?...

    Not entitled. Already eligible for a welfare payment.


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    #411
    zom
    Registered Users Posts: 1,908 ✭✭✭zom


    yammagamma wrote: »
    redundancy rules have changed with the new legisation and the time frame can be extended.

    It changed to profit employer rather then employee as far as I see. My friend she works there something like 4 years, this is not a fortune redundancy coming anyway. And she's worried about her current situation, how to manage her rent (hopefully it all will get reduced soon) and other spending for next few months.
    But still going to town once every week for €280 while some others get €350 doing nothing at all is a joke IMHO.

    Plek Trum wrote: »
    Seems people on part time work and in receipt of JB WILL now qualify for the €350?
    https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0327/1126835-covid-19-payment-part-time-workers/

    Not sure about legislation but government website changes daily and it makes it even harder to follow.
    Week ago it stated "You can apply for the payment if you are aged between 18 and 66 years and(...)you are a part time worker over 18, earn less than € 203 per week and have lost employment due to the COVID-19 (Coronavirus) pandemic" - now it says just "part-time workers".

    And citizensinformation.ie for example states that "You cannot claim the Covid-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment, if you:
    Are continuing to get income from your employment or"    . But this statement can also change following changes on government websites...

    (https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/social_welfare/social_welfare_payments/unemployed_people/covid19_pandemic_unemployment_payment.html)


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    #412
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    Plek Trum wrote: »
    Can anyone clarify - my dad is 68, full time worker and has lost employment due to the pandemic. Does he qualify for Covid19 payment (full time worker, paye , prsi etc). All information states applicants up to age of 66? Can this be right?...

    Your dad doesn’t pay PRSI. That’s not payable after 66

    This payment is aligned with jobseekers and he’s not eligible to apply for them (and can’t apply for this)


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    #413
    Plasandrunt
    Registered Users Posts: 858 ✭✭✭Plasandrunt


    Hey, I'm currently filling in the form but when I fill in the 'Country' option as Ireland it says 'please fill in a valid Country'.

    What am I doing wrong here? Been at this for about an hour


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    #414
    Galway20188
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Galway20188


    Plasandrunt wrote: »
    Hey, I'm currently filling in the form but when I fill in the 'Country' option as Ireland it says 'please fill in a valid Country'.

    What am I doing wrong here? Been at this for about an hour

    Maybe you left a space after Ireland, I did it the first time


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    #415
    yammagamma
    Registered Users Posts: 163 ✭✭yammagamma


    you have to select ireland that pops up even though its the only country that pops up you must select it


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    #416
    Tow
    Registered Users Posts: 7,282 ✭✭✭Tow


    yammagamma wrote: »
    has anyone calculated how tax credits and bands are working with wage subsidy scheme if the employer is not topping up wages as reading on citizens information said more then likely your entitled to tax and usc back on top of the wage subsidy of 70% and your employer pays you this and they claim it back >??
    has anyone done a calculator for this.
    thanks

    This is standard payroll operation, all payroll software will do it. BTW the Wage Subsidy while paid out Net is subject to Income Tax and USC. Revenue want tax to re refunded, but this will come back to bit next year.

    When is the money (including lost growth) Michael Noonan took in the Pension Levy going to be paid back?



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    #417
    Stratvs
    Registered Users Posts: 958 ✭✭✭Stratvs


    yammagamma wrote: »
    Income tax, USC, LPT, if applicable, and PRSI are not deducted from the Temporary Wage Subsidy.

    In many cases, the payment of the COVID-19 Temporary Wage Subsidy and any additional income paid by the employer will result in the refund of income tax or USC already paid by the employee. Any income tax and USC refunds that arise as a result of the application of tax credits and rate bands can be repaid by the employer and Revenue will also refund this amount to the employer.

    i forgot to add that to last post from citizens information

    https://revenue.ie/en/employing-people/documents/pmod-topics/guidance-on-operation-of-temporary-covid-wage-subsidy-scheme.pdf

    3.11 and 5.4

    I’m a bit concerned at these. The payroll system continues the cumulative basis from the existing RPNs. The subsidy is not taxed by payroll but is taxable income. Where the top up is given it generally will produce a tax /usc refund. That’s going to come back on people at year end reviews.


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    #418
    All that fandango
    Registered Users Posts: 331 ✭✭All that fandango


    Having a debate at the moment with someone about this, do you have to register for job seekers benefit as well as register for the covid19 payment to just get the covid payment? (We have both been temporarily laid off due to pandemic) they applied for it online whereas I just printed off the covid form and sent it off in the post. I've never registered for jobseekers before.


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    #419
    Dodge
    Registered Users Posts: 10,273 ✭✭✭✭Dodge


    All that fandango wrote: »
    Having a debate at the moment with someone about this, do you have to register for job seekers benefit as well as register for the covid19 payment to just get the covid payment? (We have both been temporarily laid off due to pandemic) they applied for it online whereas I just printed off the covid form and sent it off in the post. I've never registered for jobseekers before.
    The COVID payment is a temporary payment and can be applied for on its own.

    They’re suggest people apply for jobseekers at the same time as there’s quite a bit more work involved in that and it may take the length of time that the COVID payment is valid for to get through all the numbers

    You can cancel any application at any time. Obviously they’re hoping as many as possible get back to work without the need for the jobseekers payment


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    #420
    blueser
    Registered Users Posts: 10,694 ✭✭✭✭blueser


    Impossible to log into the system to claim the Pandemic Unemployment Paymentat the moment. The page is just constantly loading.


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    #421
    easypazz
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,346 ✭✭✭easypazz


    As per below are we all entitled to medical cards?

    Citizens information:

    According to the HSE's guidelines, if your income is derived solely from social welfare allowances or benefits or HSE allowances, you should be granted a medical card even though your payment may be in excess of the income guidelines for your age and situation.


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