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    #1232
    Clashmore
    Registered Users Posts: 207 ✭✭Clashmore


    Quick question, I returned to work following Maternity Leave on the 13th April 2020 the company I work for is an essential service so everyone is working. They have told me there is no work for me until May 2020. Can I claim the Pandemic payment of €350 as I am available to work since the 13th of April 2020

    TIA
    Clashmore


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    #1233
    kennethsmyth
    Registered Users Posts: 1,184 ✭✭✭kennethsmyth


    Clashmore wrote: »
    Quick question, I returned to work following Maternity Leave on the 13th April 2020 the company I work for is an essential service so everyone is working. They have told me there is no work for me until May 2020. Can I claim the Pandemic payment of €350 as I am available to work since the 13th of April 2020

    TIA
    Clashmore

    Actually once you have told your work you are available and willing to work they must pay your wage. If not they need to lay you off or short time, this must be notified and selection process could not take the fact you were on maternity leave at the time previously as this would fall under discrimination


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    #1234
    GreenGrass2019
    Registered Users Posts: 136 ✭✭GreenGrass2019


    beth-lou wrote: »
    I will get onto them. Thank you.
    beth-lou wrote: »
    No. I am earning 30% less and was not informed that I would have a wage reduction. All employees received a letter stating that the business was closing for a week due to lockdown and we were back on the 14th April. The letter stated that we were on wage subsidy until the 12th of April only and that the employer was generously topping up wages and that we may see in an increase in our wage due to tax and prsi. There was no mention of a reduction in pay. We returned to work on the 14th and there was no mention that either the wage subsidy was continuing or that my wages were 30% less. I only discovered this when I checked my payslip on Friday morning. When I asked about it I was told to “suck it up!”

    Most definitely do as going on your response above this does not add up and to be given the response you were given sounds very shady!:confused:


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    #1235
    Lashes28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    Is Tuesday a double week for CovID payment?


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    #1236
    SCOOP 64
    Registered Users Posts: 5,248 ✭✭✭SCOOP 64


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Is Tuesday a double week for CovID payment?


    No, don't think so.


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    #1237
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,170 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    Is Tuesday a double week for CovID payment?

    No, as per the government website, this payment is a weekly payment.

    The idea behind the double week is to stagger the amount of people presenting at the post office. As this payment is straight into your bank, there's no need for it to be fortnightly.


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    #1238
    Lashes28
    Registered Users Posts: 1,787 ✭✭✭Lashes28


    JCX BXC wrote: »
    No, as per the government website, this payment is a weekly payment.

    The idea behind the double week is to stagger the amount of people presenting at the post office. As this payment is straight into your bank, there's no need for it to be fortnightly.

    My dad receives it through the post office. But thanks


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    #1239
    JCX BXC
    Registered Users Posts: 18,170 ✭✭✭✭JCX BXC


    Lashes28 wrote: »
    My dad receives it through the post office. But thanks

    Still weekly, and still for the reason posted. It's intended at least as an bank transfer payment.


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    #1240
    Kiith
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators Posts: 23,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kiith


    Is the COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment backdated? We only realised my wife was eligible for it recently, and started getting it on 7th April. Figured i'd check if we could also get it for the previous weeks.


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    #1241
    Galway20188
    Registered Users Posts: 62 ✭✭Galway20188


    Anyone have any clarity on whether it’s 12 weeks or until this ends? Just wondering as I’ve seen some different answers


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    #1242
    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    The isolating Bulgarian fruit pickers are out and about looking for welfare !!

    https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/93851399_4243201275706211_1402392751554691072_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=f5YzaHAorl4AX8wzVHl&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=ce605e08344e5f0ba9b84864a1d99d86&oe=5EC355EB


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    #1243
    celt262
    Registered Users Posts: 3,458 ✭✭✭celt262


    rgossip30 wrote: »
    The isolating Bulgarian fruit pickers are out and about looking for welfare !!

    https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/93851399_4243201275706211_1402392751554691072_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=f5YzaHAorl4AX8wzVHl&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=ce605e08344e5f0ba9b84864a1d99d86&oe=5EC355EB

    I'd imagine that's from Facebook so must be true.


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    #1244
    FloatingVoter
    Registered Users Posts: 6,133 ✭✭✭FloatingVoter


    Galway20188 wrote: »
    Anyone have any clarity on whether it’s 12 weeks or until this ends? Just wondering as I’ve seen some different answers


    12 weeks. Might be extended by a few weeks a la the fuel allowance depending on whether they can afford to - which I doubt. Plenty of people coped (and are coping) on €203 per week until this began. Look out for info on gov.ie or reliable news sources. Consider YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit etc as part of the Disney network.


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    #1245
    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    celt262 wrote: »
    I'd imagine that's from Facebook so must be true.

    Whatever they would be entitled to welfare as EU citizens for 3 months if not working .


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    #1246
    Heiser
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭Heiser


    rgossip30 wrote: »
    Whatever they would be entitled to welfare as EU citizens for 3 months if not working .

    No they wouldn't. They won't receive a social welfare payment if they just got off a plane here the other day.

    Stop believing everything you read on Facebook


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    #1247
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    rgossip30 wrote: »
    Whatever they would be entitled to welfare as EU citizens for 3 months if not working .

    I don’t know where you heard that but you really couldn’t be any more wrong.


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    #1248
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    Heiser wrote: »
    No they wouldn't. They won't receive a social welfare payment if they just got off a plane here the other day.

    Stop believing everything you read on Facebook
    splinter65 wrote: »
    I don’t know where you heard that but you really couldn’t be any more wrong.

    They could easily develop a cough and be instructed to self isolate for 350 per week . And since they're tax resident elsewhere, don't hold your breath about clawing anything back.
    How generous of the taxpayer to backstop keelings. Hurrah for the taxpayer.


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    #1249
    Heiser
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭Heiser


    masculinist wrote: »
    They could easily develop a cough and be instructed to self isolate for 350 per week . And since they're tax resident elsewhere, don't hold your breath about clawing anything back.
    How generous of the taxpayer to backstop keelings. Hurrah for the taxpayer.

    Again, this is incorrect. You need to have been in employment for at least 4 weeks before getting sick to be eligible to claim the Covid19 illness benefit.

    Them workers won't be entitled to any social welfare payment. As well as that I'm sure the last thing Keelings will want is them attempting to claim welfare and all the bad publicity that would bring, just as it starts to blow over


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    #1250
    rajqo
    Registered Users Posts: 44 ✭rajqo


    FloatingVoter wrote: »
    12 weeks. Might be extended by a few weeks a la the fuel allowance depending on whether they can afford to - which I doubt. Plenty of people coped (and are coping) on €203 per week until this began. Look out for info on gov.ie or reliable news sources. Consider YouTube, Facebook, Twitter, Reddit etc as part of the Disney network.

    GOV.ie website also says this:
    The COVID-19 Pandemic Unemployment Payment will be in place for the duration of the crisis.

    That might be more than 12 weeks though... especially when they said no pubs would reopen this year and it's silly to think that everyone working at a pub would be looking for a new job. It is shut by government order, therefore should be paying people at least that minimum wage amount (350 a week).

    Just for comparison - in the US state of New York they are paying unemployment covid-19 benefits at a rate of 1100 us dollars a week (increased from 500 usd a week), so can't see why they wouldn't be able to pay them 350 a week unless they can reopen


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    #1251
    jimmycrackcorm
    Registered Users Posts: 14,336 ✭✭✭✭jimmycrackcorm


    celt262 wrote: »
    I'd imagine that's from Facebook so must be true.

    It's so true because it's a screenshot to make it look authentic and not a plain copy and paste of text. I mean if it were fake then why have the battery level say 71% instead of 100%?


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    #1252
    Heiser
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭Heiser


    rgossip30 wrote: »
    The isolating Bulgarian fruit pickers are out and about looking for welfare !!

    https://scontent-lht6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/s960x960/93851399_4243201275706211_1402392751554691072_o.jpg?_nc_cat=106&_nc_sid=1480c5&_nc_ohc=f5YzaHAorl4AX8wzVHl&_nc_ht=scontent-lht6-1.xx&_nc_tp=7&oh=ce605e08344e5f0ba9b84864a1d99d86&oe=5EC355EB

    Rgossip by name and Rgossip by nature


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    #1253
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    Heiser wrote: »
    No they wouldn't. They won't receive a social welfare payment if they just got off a plane here the other day.

    Stop believing everything you read on Facebook
    Heiser wrote: »
    Again, this is incorrect. You need to have been in employment for at least 4 weeks before getting sick to be eligible to claim the Covid19 illness benefit.

    Them workers won't be entitled to any social welfare payment. As well as that I'm sure the last thing Keelings will want is them attempting to claim welfare and all the bad publicity that would bring, just as it starts to blow over

    Yawn*

    So They could easily develop a cough after 4 weeks and be instructed to self isolate for 350 per week . And since they're tax resident elsewhere, don't hold your breath about clawing anything back.
    How generous of the taxpayer to backstop keelings. Hurrah for the taxpayer.


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    #1254
    Heiser
    Registered Users Posts: 228 ✭✭Heiser


    masculinist wrote: »
    Yawn*

    So They could easily develop a cough after 4 weeks and be instructed to self isolate for 350 per week . And since they're tax resident elsewhere, don't hold your breath about clawing anything back.
    How generous of the taxpayer to backstop keelings. Hurrah for the taxpayer.

    What are you yawning about? Don't bother replying if you're bored listening to the facts.

    Them workers have to isolate now for two weeks. After that they will need to work here for 4 weeks and then if a doctor signs them off then yes after that 6 week period they might be entitled to the €350 illness benefit......for a period of 2weeks. But they won't be entitled now, as soon as they're off the plane, as was implied earlier.


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    #1255
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 14,344 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Heiser wrote: »
    What are you yawning about? Don't bother replying if you're bored listening to the facts.

    Them workers have to isolate now for two weeks. After that they will need to work here for 4 weeks and then if a doctor signs them off then yes after that 6 week period they might be entitled to the €350 illness benefit......for a period of 2weeks. But they won't be entitled now, as soon as they're off the plane, as was implied earlier.




    You're wasting your time. Some people just have no interest in the truth or facts. Would rather spread nonsense instead.


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    #1256
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    masculinist wrote: »
    They could easily develop a cough and be instructed to self isolate for 350 per week . And since they're tax resident elsewhere, don't hold your breath about clawing anything back.
    How generous of the taxpayer to backstop keelings. Hurrah for the taxpayer.

    This is nonsense also. Even Irish people returning from abroad couldn’t get it.


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    #1257
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    masculinist wrote: »
    Yawn*

    So They could easily develop a cough after 4 weeks and be instructed to self isolate for 350 per week . And since they're tax resident elsewhere, don't hold your breath about clawing anything back.
    How generous of the taxpayer to backstop keelings. Hurrah for the taxpayer.

    How embarrassing . What I’m seeing a lot this week is lifetime dole recipients incensed with jealousy that others are getting a slice of what they consider their “pie” and a much bigger slice, albeit temporarily, then they get.


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    #1258
    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    Heiser wrote: »
    No they wouldn't. They won't receive a social welfare payment if they just got off a plane here the other day.

    Stop believing everything you read on Facebook

    I suggest you look at these links then !

    https://moving2ireland.com/rights-of-eu-citizens-in-ireland/


    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/migrant_workers/coming_from_eu_to_work.html

    The rules have been changed so they now only get the same unemployment payment as their home country .What is noteable is that they only need to get 1 PRSI payment to qualify for welfare payments here after their fruit picking job finishes . They would however not get a rent allowance payment .


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    #1259
    splinter65
    Registered Users Posts: 9,420 ✭✭✭splinter65


    rgossip30 wrote: »
    I suggest you look at these links then !

    https://moving2ireland.com/rights-of-eu-citizens-in-ireland/


    https://www.citizensinformation.ie/en/employment/migrant_workers/coming_from_eu_to_work.html

    The rules have been changed so they now only get the same unemployment payment as their home country .What is noteable is that they only need to get 1 PRSI payment to qualify for welfare payments here after their fruit picking job finishes . They would however not get a rent allowance payment .

    You need to actually read the links you have provided. Nothing has been changed. If you have been on unemployment benefit for 4 weeks and you move to another EU country then you can transfer your benefit to your country of destination. That’s been the case for around 30 years.
    But to get JSB here you need to be looking for and available for full time work. These fruit pickers are not because they already have a contract to work. So they are disqualified from JSB.
    You’re clutching at straws.


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    #1260
    rgossip30
    Registered Users Posts: 2,462 ✭✭✭rgossip30


    splinter65 wrote: »
    You need to actually read the links you have provided. Nothing has been changed. If you have been on unemployment benefit for 4 weeks and you move to another EU country then you can transfer your benefit to your country of destination. That’s been the case for around 30 years.
    But to get JSB here you need to be looking for and available for full time work. These fruit pickers are not because they already have a contract to work. So they are disqualified from JSB.
    You’re clutching at straws.

    The old welfare.ie website never stated that the payment transfer was the same as the home country . They would likely qualify as they are in quarantine the payment is transferred then is the home country paying the welfare .The contract was most likely was made signed etc before the lockdown and it depends on the content . You seem very sure of this do you work in welfare ? This can be down to a deciding officer to make the decision as they say you never know until you try .A covid-19 payment of 350 euro to illegal workers was unheard of 2 weeks ago .The FB page only stated they were looking for welfare NOT getting welfare remember .
    Kellings have stated they will pay the workers in full but have refused to say the rate of pay . This is a problem for Kellings not social welfare .


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    #1261
    masculinist
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,616 ✭✭✭masculinist


    splinter65 wrote: »
    How embarrassing . What I’m seeing a lot this week is lifetime dole recipients incensed with jealousy that others are getting a slice of what they consider their “pie” and a much bigger slice, albeit temporarily, then they get.

    I too find it amusing when a lifelong scrounger feels hard done by.
    However it's not right to dismiss taxpayers who feel hard done by because historically they're the most oppressed as the serf class who keep everything going. Theres nothing like that feeling when you've worked 7 days in a week and the government takes half your earnings away for their personal friends as though you're sacrificing only limitless time and not precious limited time with family or personal health.
    From where I stand the view quite clearly looks like Keelings is backstopped by the Irish Taxpayer , Social Welfare and the HSE.


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