HSE taking over private hospital

IAMAMORON

When I lived in Germany ( a long long time ago ), from memory the system was called AOK ?

It was compulsory to contribute, you paid directly into the system from your wages. The government also contributed. So essentially a tax.

However you also got free dental care including orthodontics. So route canals etc were all covered. You were subsidised for crowns etc. I even considered working in Germany a few years ago to specifically get a lot of dental treatments done.

All your healthcare is covered under AOK.

It is worth noting also that in Germany you can also avail of personal private health insurance also. You can pay more if you wish. I remember getting tooth x-rays from a specialist. Buttoned Burgundy coloured leather couches etc. I felt like I was on the set of an 80's porn movie.

iamwhoiam

IAMAMORON wrote: »

When I lived in Germany ( a long long time ago ), from memory the system was called AOK ?

It was compulsory to contribute, you paid directly into the system from your wages. The government also contributed. So essentially a tax.

However you also got free dental care including orthodontics. So route canals etc were all covered. You were subsidised for crowns etc. I even considered working in Germany a few years ago to specifically get a lot of dental treatments done.

All your healthcare is covered under AOK.

It is worth noting also that in Germany you can also avail of personal private health insurance also. You can pay more if you wish. I remember getting tooth x-rays from a specialist. Buttoned Burgundy coloured leather couches etc. I felt like I was on the set of an 80's porn movie.

Also you pay a percentage of your earnings so the more you earn the more you pay into the AOK . It was a brilliant system when I lived there and most likely still is

Geuze

IAMAMORON wrote: »

When I lived in Germany ( a long long time ago ), from memory the system was called AOK ?

It seems that AOK is one of the larger insurers / sickness funds.

https://www.howtogermany.com/pages/healthinsurance.html#gkv

The 11 AOK funds cover 1/3 of the pop:

https://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allgemeine_Ortskrankenkasse

Mad_maxx

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I'm wondering if you met them in a professional capacity, because I've always been happy with the standard of care from there. My parents love their doctors, as does my sister. So.. no.. not buying it. Damn good hospital with very professional staff.

Yes, i was a patient and one in particular has a well earned reputation

Mad_maxx

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I'm wondering if you met them in a professional capacity, because I've always been happy with the standard of care from there. My parents love their doctors, as does my sister. So.. no.. not buying it. Damn good hospital with very professional staff.

Yes, i was a patient and one in particular has a well earned reputation, amongst fellow doctors, staff in other clinics and solicitors, a man as obnoxious as he is incompetent

His wife ( also a doctor) isn't much of a driver either as one poor lady found out back in the day

Balf

When this was first announced a few days ago, at least on journalist said the private hospitals would give themselves over to the crisis free of charge.

https://mobile.twitter.com/gavreilly/status/1242485207946518528

Now, a commercial arrangement is announced.

I don't see where the cost is stated.

https://www.thejournal.ie/coronavirus-private-hospitals-5061985-Mar2020/

Merowig

Hi

where can I find the full list of of the 19 Private Hospitals which are now governed as well by the state?
Thanks

Beasty

Merowig wrote: »

Hi

where can I find the full list of of the 19 Private Hospitals which are now governed as well by the state?
Thanks

Here you go

Merowig

Beasty wrote: »

Here you go

Thanks
Thats 18 but the deal includes 19

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/hse-to-use-19-private-hospitals-in-covid-19-battle-not-nationalisation-says-taoiseach-991061.html


Is number 19 the Beaumont or another one?

Just checked and the Beaumont is actually a public hospital.


Other question: is there any private hospital left in Ireland which is still operating normally?

Beasty

Merowig wrote: »

Thanks
Thats 18 but the deal includes 19

There are 19 in that list, and I believe it to be a complete list

The Beaumont Private is just for consultants - it's the main hospital that is used for any procedures (or more often than not, I think, other private hospitals)

Merowig

Beasty wrote: »

There are 19 in that list, and I believe it to be a complete list

The Beaumont Private is just for consultants - it's the main hospital that is used for any procedures (or more often than not, I think, other private hospitals)

You are right - I was just reading the intro on the webpage you posted: "Our membership comprises 18 hospitals which
provide acute & mental health services throughout Ireland." But they are actually 19.

Beaumont Private doesn't do any small surgeries then I assume and it goes back to the public system?

Any other Private clinincs left in Ireland ?

Beasty

Merowig wrote: »

Any other Private clinincs left in Ireland ?

Depends what you mean by "clinic"

Funnily enough I'm heading to the Northbrook Clinic on Friday to get my jaw X-rayed

I've had CT scans at the Beaumont Private

Similarly I've had scans at Northwood (Affidea) in Santry. Then there are the likes of Swiftcare Clinics. I'm pretty sure all do minor "procedures"

Merowig

Thank you!! - my alternative plans are to go to Germany or Romania to get something done - as it is very likely that the health systems there are going to open up sooner than Ireland.

Beasty

Merowig wrote: »

Thank you!! - my alternative plans are to go to Germany or Romania to get something done - as it is very likely that the health systems there are going to open up sooner than Ireland.

Even when they re-open there will be a large backlog for both public and private procedures

Could be a year or more before anything approaching "normality" in the Irish private health sector returns