CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

fritzelly

owlbethere wrote: »

This was in a video that was linked earlier. It's a sign on a window in China saying


"We currently don't except visitors with a temperature of 37.3"

Why is their temperature for fever set low at 37.3?



I thought here the temperature to look out for and for self isolation is 37.8?

It's less about the temperature and more about foreigners are infected

Roger_007

Don’t forget to put your clocks forward tonight..........(to 1st Jan 2021).

Corkgirl20

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Yup twice while driving to the shops at a checkpoint.

Went out for a walk myself and was stopped on the seafront asked where I was going to and how far from home I was (was within the 2k)

What area are you in ? I’ve yet to see any and I live near the city.

DisneyLover

I was told I would get a fast track swab cause I work in a hospital and need to get back... in a few hours I got it done 7 days ago !!! Anyone know who I can call ?? I know they're busy but surely emergency services staff should be pushed forward ?

They even told me around 4 times it would get marked as urgent. Our staff are dropping like flies and I'm going mad at home not being there://// I also have an underlying illness and so does my mam.

How long are the swabs taking on average ? I might have to get my chief to call them

Un1corn

Lavinia wrote: »

I am tired with these newly registered people throwing all kinds of conspiracy theories here about this country or that country.. geez lads give it a break
nobody cares what you privately believe or not :rolleyes:

Doubting Chinese statistics is not really a conspiracy theory. It is a country built upon lies and false claims. Everything from the foundation of the state through the land reforms, great leap forward, cultural revolution, Tiananmen deaths, GDP figures have all been over or understated. Check out how Chinese famines occurred and how officials continued to lie even though their whole villages were starving.

Whether you like to believe it or not you're possibly locked in your house now and the country facing economic ruin because of decisions and mistakes made by Wuhan/Chinese officials. It is important to know this and know how to counter this in the future. We live in a globalized world and incompetency in China can have deadly consequences in Mayo.

smelly sock

The wife must be telling the neighbours i do **** all around the house.

I was putting out the bins the other night at about 8 and everyone gave me a round of applause.

Cilldara_2000

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Northern Ireland issuing upwards of £5,000 fines for those who don't comply.

Up to £5k.

This jurisdiction will be up to €2.5k.

Coyote

Lavinia wrote: »

not sure what is that you are showing but its not true, (unfortunately)



https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/italy/

you have to remember there is two numbers
1. total number per day that is staying the same
2. % growth of cases of the total cases which is dropping

with exponential growth even getting the same number of cases per day is still a drop in the % growth of the total cases

Anita Blow

Talisman wrote: »

The X chromosome contains immunity-related genes. Females have two X chromosomes, while males have a single one.

Unlikely to be the reason.

Smoking rates are higher in males and this is a respiratory illness. Men are also more likely to be overweight.
These are just two risk factors for respiratory illness that place men at higher risk.

sheepsh4gger

fritzelly wrote: »

It's less about the temperature and more about foreigners are infected

I think those contactless thermometers are inaccurate.

smelly sock

Roger_007 wrote: »

Don’t forget to put your clocks forward tonight..........(to 1st Jan 2021).

Do people still put the clocks forward?

Seriously. Most do it automatically.

neonsofa

Talisman wrote: »

The X chromosome contains immunity-related genes. Females have two X chromosomes, while males have a single one.

I think they were asking about the other 1%

caveat emptor

Probably already shared but I'd like to add something if I may.

We are one of the largest exporters of Pharma in Europe. Pretty sure they need paracetamol.



https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-oxygen-equipment-meant-for-ireland-held-back-by-italy-1.4214229?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter

Just Saying

New Home wrote: »

More like the reports received by the authorities didn't specify.

I'd say it's most likely she forgot to round up one of the figures to the nearest whole number!

sheepsh4gger

Anita Blow wrote: »

Unlikely to be the reason.

Smoking rates are higher in males and this is a respiratory illness. Men are also more likely to be overweight.
These are just two risk factors for respiratory illness that place men at higher risk.

I read that the disease is hard on the heart and this is the main reason for people dying.

Lavinia

Un1corn wrote: »

Doubting Chinese statistics is not really a conspiracy theory. It is a country built upon lies and false claims. Everything from the foundation of the state through the land reforms, great leap forward, cultural revolutio...........

I see u typing but all i can read is blah blah blah


zzzzzzzzzzzz

Cilldara_2000

Lavinia wrote: »

I see u typing but all i can read is blah blah blah


zzzzzzzzzzzz

Sure yer man played hurling in Croke Park so they must be sound.

Spanish Eyes

New Home wrote: »

Triage DOES NOT include removing a ventilator from someone to give it to someone else. Which is what is happening now. And I'm well aware of what triage involves on a daily basis.

That is not true. Ventilation is given to those with the projected best outcomes, and occasionally for humanitarian reasons to keep someone alive long enough for family to get home from abroad or that to say goodbye.

Sometimes the truth hurts, and it's painful for families, but I trust the medics and they will advise.

These kind of decisions have been happening since Adam was a boy.

Tandey

smelly sock wrote: »

Do people still put the clocks forward?

Seriously. Most do it automatically.

Well the ones that don’t go forward automatically, yeah. Common sense to most people I’d imagine. Do you have an issue with that?

loughside

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-52079959

Coronavirus: New regulations to come into force


New powers to combat the spread of coronavirus are to come into force across Northern Ireland from 23:00 GMT on Saturday.

The regulations will prohibit anyone from leaving home without a reasonable excuse and compel the closure of certain premises.

The NI Executive agreed the powers in response to the Covid-19 outbreak.

Penalties, ranging from fixed penalty notices to fines of up to £5,000, are being introduced as enforcement.

The powers also ban gatherings of more than two people.

First Minister Arlene Foster described the powers as "extraordinary" but said "we are living in extraordinary times".

"We are asking the people of Northern Ireland to make fundamental changes to how they live their lives," said Mrs Foster.

"But we are doing this to keep you safe, to flatten the curve of the Covid-19 infection so that the health service has the capacity to deal with those who need their help the most."

The first minister said the executive knows "the enormity" of what they are asking of the public.

Deputy First Minister Michelle O'Neill said "protecting the public, supporting the health service and saving lives" were the executive's priorities.

"Each one of us has a personal responsibility to do everything we can to fight back against Covid-19 for the good of everyone across society," she said.

"We will use every power we have to ensure people stay at home so that we save as many lives as we possibly can."

The executive has also agreed that:

Anyone who can work from home must work from home
Employers must facilitate working from home where it is feasible
No employer should compel an employee to come to work if it is feasible to work from home
Every employer must take all reasonable steps to safeguard the health, safety and wellbeing of employees during the COVID-19 emergency, whether working from home or in the workplace
Every employer must have particular regard to the safety of employees in the workplace and must put into effect the guidance on social distancing issued by the Department for the Economy
Every employer has a legal duty to ensure, so far as it is reasonably practicable, the health, safety and welfare at work of all employees
Where a business is failing to observe the Department for the Economy guidance and breaching the legal duty on health and safety, the statutory authorities will take robust action, which may include prosecution for criminal offences
Where necessary, the Executive Office will also use its power of direction to close or restrict businesses that do not ensure the safety of their employees.

bekker

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Number of cases as a % of new cases is trending down. Number of new cases is static enough.

One small crumb of comfort in that Italy dead/recovered at 10023/22407 = 44.73%, has remained under 45% for a number of days now, they' should have control when under 40% on way down, based on other countries which have stabilized.

Kivaro

smelly sock wrote: »

Do people still put the clocks forward?

Seriously. Most do it automatically.

Whoosh ....

Roger_007

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

I read that the disease is hard on the heart and this is the main reason for people dying.

I saw somewhere, (can’t remember where), that a study of the first 2500 deaths in Italy showed that the leading ‘underlying condition’ of those who died was heart disease, followed by diabetes.

wadacrack

Dont forget to put your clock forward tonight folks. Wouldn't want anyone to miss an exciting day ahead tomorrow of Covid 19.

owlbethere

caveat emptor wrote: »

Holy sh!t. That is some medievac. They were slow on the uptake of appearing to not give a fvck but Germany bringing out the big guns. (china and Russia got their first) I bet they realise there is a very real threat of Italy leaving EU after this settles. Geopolitics. Great gesture all the same and fair play.

https://twitter.com/Fola30903998/status/1244001512445087744?s=20

Wow, that is incredibly impressive

bekker

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Saudi Arabia indefinitely extending the suspension of international passenger flights and all other restrictions within the territory.

There's a different non-COVID-19 agenda at work in Saudi.

Un1corn

Lavinia wrote: »

I see u typing but all i can read is blah blah blah


zzzzzzzzzzzz

What a valuable contribution to the debate. You accused skeptics of China of being conspiracy theorists. I and others merely stated how things in China have happened in the past and affect us now. It is very relevant to the topic and ignoring the on the ground realities and things that happen in China has serious effects on our life in Ireland.

JoChervil

fr336 wrote: »

Worldometers is such a great site. Of active cases in Italy, 94% are mild and 6% are critical. It's still really really bad, but not as mad sounding as the headlines...

But almost 11% of all cases are dead

fritzelly

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

https://www.gofundme.com/f/gofundmescrubs4the-fontline

Please help with PPE for the front line heroes

Someone already has a gofundme to buy from the same place - why is someone doing another?

caveat emptor

https://twitter.com/GrowingUpItalia/status/1243977998480662529?s=20

foxyladyxx

Corkgirl20 wrote: »

What area are you in ? I’ve yet to see any and I live near the city.

The police have been very evident today on the streets of Dublin. One cannot avoid them. I guess it is because the rate of infection is so high in Dublin in comparison with other counties.

Anita Blow

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

I read that the disease is hard on the heart and this is the main reason for people dying.

You're largely correct. More severe cases of COVID cause myocardial injury- we do Troponins on covid patients (Troponin being a biomarker we use for heart injury in heart attacks, for example) as a predictor of severity.

It's probably not the main reason for death- death will be multi-factorial and this cardiac injury will be just one contributory factor!

Blaze420

fritzelly wrote: »

Someone already has a gofundme to buy from the same place - why is someone doing another?

Virtue signallers - why do the government not divert some of the money wasted on the “homeless” crisis to purchasing this equipment?

bekker

owlbethere wrote: »

Wow, that is incredibly impressive

I make it 9 stations in the view shown.

Muahahaha

Just on ventilators, it seems an extraordinary amount of companies are trying to produce them, everyone from James Dyson to General Motors. But the best thinking outside the box Ive heard yet is from one company who are trying to modify current ventilators so that the unit can ventilate two people at the same time instead of one. If they can crack that one it has the potential to double ventilation capacity everywhere.

Kermit.de.frog

JoChervil wrote: »

But almost 11% of all cases are dead

10,000+ deaths in the space of 60 days.

igCorcaigh

fr336 wrote: »

Worldometers is such a great site. Of active cases in Italy, 94% are mild and 6% are critical. It's still really really bad, but not as mad sounding as the headlines...

It is a great site.
Closed case cfr at 18% though, obviously highly inflated.

owlbethere

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Northern Ireland issuing upwards of £5,000 fines for those who don't comply.

Will there be any fines for down here in the south?

jesus_thats_gre

Muahahaha wrote: »

Just on ventilators, it seems an extraordinary amount of companies are trying to produce them, everyone from James Dyson to General Motors. But the best thinking outside the box Ive heard yet is from one company who are trying to modify current ventilators so that the unit can ventilate two people at the same time instead of one. If they can crack that one it has the potential to double ventilation capacity everywhere.

Loads of stuff online.

Cuomo talked about it last night. Trialling a 2x configuration. But seen stuff online with up to a 12x split. Musk even inputting into some of the dicussions.

There is also a huge open source Ventilator scene that has spawned in recent weeks - large one here https://opensourceventilator.ie/

cameramonkey

Un1corn wrote: »

What a valuable contribution to the debate. You accused skeptics of China of being conspiracy theorists. I and others merely stated how things in China have happened in the past and affect us now. It is very relevant to the topic and ignoring the on the ground realities and things that happen in China has serious effects on our life in Ireland.

Do you believe that the WHO and China are conspiring to hide the true figue of infections in China at the moment?

Kermit.de.frog

Boris Johnson to warn UK: tougher lockdown may be necessary

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/28/boris-johnson-coronavirus-outbreak-will-get-worse


The herd won't like that

saabsaab

The Nation is going through this process


Denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.

I'd say we are going through 4 now.

Blueshoe

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Boris Johnson to warn UK: tougher lockdown may be necessary

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2020/mar/28/boris-johnson-coronavirus-outbreak-will-get-worse


The herd won't like that

It's either Trump or Boris. That's all that we hear

caveat emptor

#CiSalviamoDaSoli hashtag started in italy 'we saved ourselves'. Horrible to see far right using it as opportunity. EU response should have been much stronger though.

https://twitter.com/descifraguerra/status/1244023166827200512?s=20

Muahahaha

jesus_thats_gre wrote: »

Loads of stuff online.

Cuomo talked about it last night. Trialling a 2x configuration. But seen stuff online with up to a 12x split. Musk even inputting into some of the dicussions.

There is also a huge open source Ventilator scene that has spawned in recent weeks - large one here https://opensourceventilator.ie/

12x seems unachievable but 2x must definitely be possible. Its essentially an oxygen pump, if they can double its output then and attach it to two patients rather than one that would be a massive help.

Lots of companies making them but you'd wonder where the software/electronics side is going to come from. On top of that they'd have to be tested and approved for use on humans which takes time. Modifying existing units to pump for two patients would be a much quicker way of solving the problem.

JP Liz V1

fritzelly wrote: »

Someone already has a gofundme to buy from the same place - why is someone doing another?

I suppose everyone wants to help

kilkenny31

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

10,000+ deaths in the space of 60 days.

Just for the sake of comparison how does that compare to a bad flu season?

Kermit.de.frog

What Johnson will tell the British public...

“From the start, we have sought to put in the right measures at the right time,” Johnson says in the letter, which will land on doorsteps this week. “We will not hesitate to go further if that is what the scientific and medical advice tells us we must do.

“It’s important for me to level with you – we know things will get worse before they get better. But we are making the right preparations, and the more we all follow the rules, the fewer lives will be lost and the sooner life can return to normal … That is why, at this moment of national emergency, I urge you, please, to stay at home, protect the NHS and save lives.”

jesus_thats_gre

Muahahaha wrote: »

12x seems unachievable but 2x must definitely be possible. Its essentially an oxygen pump, if they can double its output then and attach it to two patients rather than one that would be a massive help.

Lots of companies making them but you'd wonder where the software/electronics side is going to come from. On top of that they'd have to be tested and approved for use on humans which takes time. Modifying existing units to pump for two patients would be a much quicker way of solving the problem.

Think there is concerns about cross contamination between air flows. Think I saw something too about how components deteriorate with use.

Lavinia

saabsaab wrote: »

The Nation is going through this process


Denial, anger, bargaining, depression and acceptance.

I'd say we are going through 4 now.

this is so accurate lol

not sure we passed the bargaining phase fully though just yet..