CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

tobefrank321

If anyone can solve the ventilator problem its Musk/Tesla. Far more innovative and dynamic than GM.

Trump turned to the wrong company.

cnocbui

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

How do you quarantine NY? Do you switch off wall street?

Just ask Stephen King, I hear he does some very effective Domes.

Blaze420

Daz_ wrote: »

People shopping for food - a necessity
Lads out fishing for the sport of it - clowns

Nail on the head there, hope you aren’t trying to be witty because you failed.

Muahahaha

Wibbs wrote: »

The problem is M, the two patients must require essentially the same ventilator output. I can see it working in patients that "just" require extra oxygen to get them over the hump(like those "helmets" the Italians have stalled giving to us), but not people sedated, muscles paralysed and intubated attached to a ventilator breathing for them.

yeah its beyond my rudimentary engineering knowledge. But maybe there is a way to split the airflow into two tubes and then have regulators on each tube which are operated from the software interface?

tony1980 wrote: »

Have a client in the Hamptons. Their families in NY have already left last week to go to the Hamptons. I’d say a lot more will try do the same now.

Isnt the Hamptons in New York state though on Long Island? I would have thought New Yorkers are going to make a dash to get out of the state entirely before Trump calls the quarantine that he has now publicly indicated is on the way.

cnocbui

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If anyone can solve the ventilator problem its Musk/Tesla. Far more innovative and dynamic than GM.

Trump turned to the wrong company.

If Musk did a ventilator, it's only function would be to inflate his ego and garner Twitter hits.

coastwatch

Anita Blow wrote: »

I'm a doctor in Dublin

Thank you for all your work during this crisis and for your contribution on here.
Please pass on thanks to all your colleagues too.

Sean 18

How come their seems to be an awful lot of People dead in the UK in their 20s with no underlying health issues?

jackboy

Daz_ wrote: »

People shopping for food - a necessity
Lads out fishing for the sport of it - clowns

True, but it is the shoppers spreading the virus.

cnocbui

cnocbui wrote: »

Just ask Stephen King, I hear he does some very effective Domes.

He also did a short story years ago where most of the world died from a new strain of flu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Surf

Daz_

Blaze420 wrote: »

Nail on the head there, hope you aren’t trying to be witty because you failed.

Witty ? What the hell are you on
About ?
This is ****ing serious stuff and it pisses me off that people can’t stay the **** at home .
Hope that’s clear enough for you

Kermit.de.frog

Anita Blow wrote: »

I'm a doctor in Dublin

No doctor would lower themselves to posting on Boards, especially not here

Daz_

jackboy wrote: »

True, but it is the shoppers spreading the virus.

I’m assuming you are some sort of troll or something so I’ll just leave it there

XsApollo

Un1corn wrote: »

The WHO have to go on the basis of the numbers that China gives them. They have no way to verify it independently. I didn't say they are being hoodwinked. I said they are not in a position to very Chinese statistics. Nobody is. It is a closed, intransparent and secretive system and international organizations, for example the WHO, will not be given access to anything the Chinese don't want them to see.

The WHO also are not politically independent and needs to keep the Chinese authorities satisfied. I have no idea why but they are walking on eggshells with China. This isn't about the numbers but for example, they don't allow Taiwan membership of their organization for fear of upsetting China. Look at this interview of a Taiwanese journalist questioning a WHO official gets shut down and he avoids answering the question.

https://youtu.be/tCFPFWsIPmM

He clearly does not want to upset China for some reason. Challenging their numbers would surely upset them also.

In reality I imagine there is a sh*tstorm coming after this.
Countries and governments are too busy dealing with what’s happening now to really do anything else.
I imagine when it all calms down and we are looking at the Numbers , People will want answers and hopefully then the pressure gets put on them.
The Numbers they have given out are Boll*x.
They tried to cover this up.
I imagine their propaganda machine is in full force now about how the government is helping the world.
The reliance of every country on China now to deliver stuff to deal with this is hopefully an eye opener that that has to stop.

I think when people start doing proper investigations we will get a proper picture and hopefully a strong response from the countries on this side of the world.

bekker

Hobgoblin11 wrote: »

This virus could have been genetically engineered by China in Wuhan in order to deny Trump another 4 years in office! Disgrace!

US said not genetically engineered.

But given previous reports re US army Lab in Texas ordered closed, Sept. '19, it may have been a case of getting retaliation in first.

Talisman

DubInMeath wrote: »

He also did a short story years ago where most of the world died from a new strain of flu.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Night_Surf

The Stand?

GM228

Talisman wrote: »

Thanks for that. Not looking to criticise you after going to the effort of presenting that table, but the data must be incorrect. Last night (March 28th), Tony Holohan said there were 71 in ICU "as of this morning", i.e. yesterday morning.

If 67 is the official number then somebody is playing with them.

67 is the official number as per the Government press release today up to midnight Thursday the 26th:-

https://www.gov.ie/en/publication/df67ed-an-analysis-of-the-1904-cases-of-covid-19-in-ireland-as-of-thursday-/

cnocbui

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

No doctor would lower themselves to posting on Boards, especially not here

What? There have been several.

elperello

cnocbui wrote: »

If Musk did a ventilator, it's only function would be to inflate his ego and garner Twitter hits.

If I needed a ventilator I wouldn't be worrying about the ego of the donor or his twitter hits.

jackboy

Daz_ wrote: »

I’m assuming you are some sort of troll or something so I’ll just leave it there

Fine. Keep your head in the sand.

degsie

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

No doctor would lower themselves to posting on Boards, especially not here

Post history would indicate otherwise

Talisman

Talisman wrote: »

The Stand?

Nope night surf as per the link I added.

Didn't read the stand as I got a bit bored with his writing and felt like he was becoming predictable.

cnocbui

Sean 18 wrote: »

How come their seems to be an awful lot of People dead in the UK in their 20s with no underlying health issues?

Give us a number that qualifies as an awful lot. I'll bet you come up with less than 5.

Un1corn

XsApollo wrote: »

In reality I imagine there is a sh*tstorm coming after this.
Countries and governments are too busy dealing with what’s happening now to really do anything else.
I imagine when it all calms down and we are looking at the Numbers , People will want answers and hopefully then the pressure gets put on them.
The Numbers they have given out are Boll*x.
They tried to cover this up.
I imagine their propaganda machine is in full force now about how the government is helping the world.
The reliance of every country on China now to deliver stuff to deal with this is hopefully an eye opener that that has to stop.

I think when people start doing proper investigations we will get a proper picture and hopefully a strong response from the countries on this side of the world.

Oh I know. You should watch this link when they call him back. The WHO isn't acting independently here at all and are going out of their way to avoid offending China.

Look https://twitter.com/HKWORLDCITY/status/1243865641448169474

I can't take the figures from China seriously. I've worked there for years and I am telling you, never ever believe anything they say.

Cameraman wants evidence the statistics are fake. Given this is China I want evidence that they are real. It's more likely to be fake and China isn't a transparent system where we can independently verify anything so I'm going to err on the side of skepticism.

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244029041432244224

runawaybishop

jackboy wrote: »

True, but it is the shoppers spreading the virus.

Do you not think the lads chatting together before they go fishing, while periodically walking up to each other for another chat, may also be spreading it? We have to buy food, we don't need to go fishing.

Also I was shopping myself today, alone. Heard a lad behind me giving out about the queue to get in. He was in to buy more booze for his house party.

Professor Moriarty

bekker wrote: »

US said not genetically engineered.

But given previous reports re US army Lab in Texas ordered closed, Sept. '19, it may have been a case of getting retaliation in first.

Well, that escalated quickly.

Cody montana

I’ve just watched mrs brown’s boys.
It can only get better.

Blaze420

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244029041432244224

Yeah maybe, after a few hundred thousand of your citizens are dead. That’s the price of putting a vacuous braindead orange retard in charge of your country though so reap what you sow.

mouldybiscuits

XsApollo wrote: »

In reality I imagine there is a sh*tstorm coming after this.
Countries and governments are too busy dealing with what’s happening now to really do anything else.
I imagine when it all calms down and we are looking at the Numbers , People will want answers and hopefully then the pressure gets put on them.
The Numbers they have given out are Boll*x.
They tried to cover this up.
I imagine their propaganda machine is in full force now about how the government is helping the world.
The reliance of every country on China now to deliver stuff to deal with this is hopefully an eye opener that that has to stop.

I think when people start doing proper investigations we will get a proper picture and hopefully a strong response from the countries on this side of the world.

China gets a lot of bad press because of bad press (Western propaganda). There is constant negative news and articles about China because they are a massive economic rival to the biggest Western nations. Media is not unbiased. You need to look at the bigger picture to get an understanding of what is really happening.

Blueshoe

Muahahaha wrote: »

Trump has come out and said he "might" place three states including New York into quarantine. Wtf was he doing thinking out loud before an official announcement. Millions of people in NY right now must be thinking of scrambling out of there before the quarantine begins. The wealthiest of them cant even shout 'To the Hamptons!' because thats within NY state :pac:

Trump has called up 1 million reservists to assist in the battle against covid19. Trump has also threatened the Defence Production Act to compel auto manufacturing giants such as GM and Ford to make ventilators.

Daz_

jackboy wrote: »

Fine. Keep your head in the sand.

Yeah cancel all food shopping and carry on fishing in groups - you have it all worked out .

tobefrank321

cnocbui wrote: »

If Musk did a ventilator, it's only function would be to inflate his ego and garner Twitter hits.

Tesla is light years ahead of the rest of the industry. But hey lets ignore that and avoid them because we don't like Musk.

Just like people ignored the lessons from China and continue to stupidly ignore them because they don't like the Chinese political model. Daft.

Sean 18

cnocbui wrote: »

Give us a number that qualifies as an awful lot. I'll bet you come up with less than 5.

It's coming up on the sun I've seen more than 10 in the last hour

Un1corn

mouldybiscuits wrote: »

China gets a lot of bad press because of bad press (Western propaganda). There is constant negative news and articles about China because they are a massive economic rival to the biggest Western nations. Media is not unbiased. You need to look at the bigger picture to get an understanding of what is really happening.

True. But do you believe them?

jackboy

runawaybishop wrote: »

Do you not think the lads chatting together before they go fishing, while periodically walking up to each other for another chat, may also be spreading it? We have to buy food, we don't need to go fishing.

Also I was shopping myself today, alone. Heard a lad behind me giving out about the queue to get in. He was in to buy more booze for his house party.

Of course. But a large queue of shoppers is far more risky than a small group of fishermen. If we want to beat the virus we need to stop thinking about what is allowed or not allowed, the virus does not care about any of that.

We need to stop large crowds, such as queues at shops. We may have to book slots to get into shops with no queues allowed outside. I think the Chinese did something like that. If it gets worse we will be doing that, no doubt.

Blueshoe

Blaze420 wrote: »

Yeah maybe, after a few hundred thousand of your citizens are dead. That’s the price of putting a vacuous braindead orange retard in charge of your country though so reap what you sow.

Where is your criticism of Italy, France, Spain China and Iran.
They have more dead and with the exception of China have much smaller populations. New York alone has almost double the population of Ireland.

Is it because Trump? Trump is bad. Orange

Anita Blow

coastwatch wrote: »

Thank you for all your work during this crisis and for your contribution on here.
Please pass on thanks to all your colleagues too.

I appreciate it. I'm privileged to work in the health service at this time and for the first time in a while I feel like I'm apart of a service which is comparable or exceeds that of other major countries. I really hope the effort made and adaptability of the health service over the past couple weeks is borne out in the statistics over the coming weeks.

elperello

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Tesla is light years ahead of the rest of the industry. But hey lets ignore that and avoid them because we don't like Musk.

Just like people ignored the lessons from China and continue to stupidly ignore them because they don't like the Chinese political model. Daft.

It's not a political model.
The CCP have the whole country in an armlock for the last 70 years.

Professor Moriarty

Blueshoe wrote: »

Where is your criticism of Italy, France, Spain China and Iran.
They have more dead and with the exception of China have much smaller populations. New York alone has almost double the population of Ireland.

Is it because Trump? Trump is bad. Orange

If only Trump were Taoiseach. Things would be so beautiful in Ireland now.

Sittingpretty

Lads.

The virus can’t move itself.

People move the virus.

Stay the f at home.

Ffs....... fishing, Jesus :rolleyes:

Un1corn

I think we in the west should pay much closer attention to China. We are too complacent with them.

cnocbui

mouldybiscuits wrote: »

China gets a lot of bad press because of bad press (Western propaganda). There is constant negative news and articles about China because they are a massive economic rival to the biggest Western nations. Media is not unbiased. You need to look at the bigger picture to get an understanding of what is really happening.

China gets a lot of bad press because it thoroughly deserves it.

igCorcaigh

Sean 18 wrote: »

How come their seems to be an awful lot of People dead in the UK in their 20s with no underlying health issues?

Eh? Where are you getting that info from?

fryup

branie2 wrote: »

Northern Ireland under lockdown now

no, since 1969

Lavinia

however this sound when I compare numbers of deaths from corona so far in the world (30k) and for example that over 3 million people worldwide died from cancer since the beginning of the year - this kind of calms me down.. not that it makes the tragedy any lesser..

Blaze420

Blueshoe wrote: »

Where is your criticism of Italy, France, Spain China and Iran.
They have more dead and with the exception of China have much smaller populations. New York alone has almost double the population of Ireland.

Is it because Trump? Trump is bad. Orange

I’m not going to criticise countries who knew what this was and did their best. Trump on the other hand downplayed this, even promised to reopen the country in a few weeks because “Murica is open for business”. He’s a retard, his followers are retards and I feel sorry for the swathes of people who will die because this ****ing imbecile is running their country

Blueshoe

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

If only Trump were Taoiseach. Things would be so beautiful in Ireland now.

How about Guiseppe Conte?

weisses

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244029041432244224

GTFO ... Go build a snowman in the weather forum

igCorcaigh

Un1corn wrote: »

I think we in the west should pay much closer attention to China. We are too complacent with them.

We are too dependent on them.

caveat emptor

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244029041432244224

Jaysus that's a massive boat. They other ones with the big guns are fvck all use now.