CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

gmisk

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If anyone can solve the ventilator problem its Musk/Tesla. Far more innovative and dynamic than GM.

Trump turned to the wrong company.

Could he try and help without calling someone a paedo this time?

Un1corn

cnocbui wrote: »

China gets a lot of bad press because it thoroughly deserves it.

I couldn't agree more. I am not saying the west handled this better at all by the way. Just saying the Chinese Communist Party is an absolute abomination and blight on humanity. They have the people of mainland China in a vice and I would love nothing more for this to be the event that brings their house of cards to the ground.

Professor Moriarty

Blueshoe wrote: »

How about Guiseppe Conte?

Didn't he manage Chelsea? Did well enough.

Un1corn

igCorcaigh wrote: »

We are too dependent on them.

This is also true and I am starting to question whether it is ethical for us to continue trading with a regime that has currently got 1 million Muslims in concentration camps. We should seriously consider decoupling.

Kermit.de.frog

Florida reports 840 new cases and 10 new deaths, highest so far.

That's among the most vulnerable states in the US due to a preponderance of retirees. Also Mar-a-Lago.

Professor Moriarty

Un1corn wrote: »

This is also true and I am starting to question whether it is ethical for us to continue trading with a regime that has currently got 1 million Muslims in concentration camps. We should seriously consider decoupling.

Let's wait until those planes come back.

Westernyelp

gmisk wrote: »

Could he try and help without calling someone a paedo this time?

He can call me a Peado if he can sort this out. who cares

BanditLuke

Lavinia wrote: »

however this sound when I compare numbers of deaths from corona so far in the world (30k) and for example that over 3 million people worldwide died from cancer since the beginning of the year - this kind of calms me down.. not that it makes the tragedy any lesser..

Guess what, you can't catch cancer if the person with cancer sneezes at you.

caveat emptor

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244029041432244224

If that was obama......It's a good video in fairness. Glad I'm not in New York though.

cnocbui

Sean 18 wrote: »

It's coming up on the sun I've seen more than 10 in the last hour

Do you have a link for that?

statesaver

Blueshoe wrote: »

Where is your criticism of Italy, France, Spain China and Iran.
They have more dead and with the exception of China have much smaller populations. New York alone has almost double the population of Ireland.

Is it because Trump? Trump is bad. Orange

Talking about orange, did ye see the state of Leo the other night. Looked just as orange as Trump with the white around the eyes as well.

Lavinia

BanditLuke wrote: »

Guess what, you can't catch cancer if the person with cancer sneezes at you.

I expected such comments of cours cancer is not contagious but im just saying that covid is not as deadly as some other illnesses are

Blueshoe

Blaze420 wrote: »

I’m not going to criticise countries who knew what this was and did their best. Trump on the other hand downplayed this, even promised to reopen the country in a few weeks because “Murica is open for business”. He’s a retard, his followers are retards and I feel sorry for the swathes of people who will die because this ****ing imbecile is running their country

Has he done anything to counteract the virus spread?

tobefrank321

Blaze420 wrote: »

Yeah maybe, after a few hundred thousand of your citizens are dead. That’s the price of putting a vacuous braindead orange retard in charge of your country though so reap what you sow.

The US handles as much air travel as the rest of the world combined. So it doesn't matter who the president is, this would hit them just as bad.

I'm fairly sure a liberal Democrat president would not have grounded flights from Europe for example.

And as others have said we in Europe are the last ones who should be throwing stones.

Westernyelp

statesaver wrote: »

Talking about orange, did ye see the state of Leo the other night. Looked just as orange as Trump with the white around the eyes as well.

irrellevant

Professor Moriarty

statesaver wrote: »

Talking about orange, did ye see the state of Leo the other night. Looked just as orange as Trump with the white around the eyes as well.

The similarities end there.

BanditLuke

Un1corn wrote: »

I think we in the west should pay much closer attention to China. We are too complacent with them.

Oh don't worry China have a day of reckoning coming. The world is not going to forget about this.

Ce he sin

Lavinia wrote: »

however this sound when I compare numbers of deaths from corona so far in the world (30k) and for example that over 3 million people worldwide died from cancer since the beginning of the year - this kind of calms me down.. not that it makes the tragedy any lesser..

Sadly, one of these numbers is rising exponentially. We're only at the start yet.

statesaver

Westernyelp wrote: »

irrellevant

Relax ffs :rolleyes:



It's true though.

Beasty

If people wish to flout the new restrictions announced on Friday that is up to them. They cannot complain at the consequences, be that direct action from the authorities, exposure in Social Media (not here) or being shunned by locals, friends, family etc. If they post about it here, or encourage others to flout the rules, trying to appear macho, or thinking they are above the rules or simply being a smart arse, posting privileges will be removed

Any questions, PM me. Do not respond to this post in-thread

old_aussie

Muahahaha wrote: »

Northern Ireland has clamped down and they are pretty much alligned with our own lockdown now. Thats a good thing because the Brexit mess has shown us that 50,000 people cross the border every day for work

What! Ireland didn't know that 50,000 cross the border every day for work?

Thanks to Brexit Ireland is on a steep learning curve.

Thank you Brexit for educating the people.

Blueshoe

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Didn't he manage Chelsea? Did well enough.

No he's the prime minister of Italy. The European epicenter of the virus. 10,000 dead and 90000 infections.
Trump though. He's the only one we like to criticize. Because he is orange and says words

bekker

Please stop with all the China crap, we're basing our national response on their statistics and studies.

Blame the caretaker government and HSE, they chose to use WHO, ECDC guidelines based on above statistics and studies as a cover for their decisions or lack thereof.

Expound your geopolitical bias in the appropriate fora.

Westernyelp

statesaver wrote: »

Relax ffs :rolleyes:



It's true though.

janey. I typed 1 word. I think your idea of excited might be out of kilter. still irrellevant

igCorcaigh

Un1corn wrote: »

This is also true and I am starting to question whether it is ethical for us to continue trading with a regime that has currently got 1 million Muslims in concentration camps. We should seriously consider decoupling.

Yeah, the west trades with Saudi too. Ethics rarely enter the decision making when it comes to trade.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/28/revealed-1bn-of-taxpayers-cash-to-help-foreign-countries-buy-british-arms

But I fully agree with you.

Un1corn

bekker wrote: »

Please stop with all the China crap, we're basing our national response on their statistics and studies.

Blame the caretaker government and HSE, they chose to use WHO, ECDC guidelines based on above statistics and studies as a cover for their decisions or lack thereof.

Expound your geopolitical bias in the appropriate fora.

For what it's worth I think Ireland is handling this well. But the origins of this virus are very relevant.

tobefrank321

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

Florida reports 840 new cases and 10 new deaths, highest so far.

That's among the most vulnerable states in the US due to a preponderance of retirees. Also Mar-a-Lago.

Florida tried to ban flights from New York. Not sure they succeeded. As with us you can't fight covid19 without banning flights from red zone areas.

You had idiots in Ireland saying there was no point banning flights from red zones and once we imported dozens of case, they were then saying ah well its here now in large numbers, nothing can be done.

The community transmission cases all originated from the imported cases and will do long into the future. You just have to look at the number of travel related clusters.

cnocbui

elperello wrote: »

If I needed a ventilator I wouldn't be worrying about the ego of the donor or his twitter hits.

If you need a ventilator made by Tesla at the moment, you would be out of luck as they haven't made any. Same for the vaunted 'Dyson' (not really Dyson) ventilator. If there were actually as many ventilators being made and delivered, as there are tweets and headlines about them, that would indeed be useful.

Un1corn

igCorcaigh wrote: »

Yeah, the west trades with Saudi too. Ethics rarely enter the decision making when it comes to trade.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/28/revealed-1bn-of-taxpayers-cash-to-help-foreign-countries-buy-british-arms

I know. Unfortunately.

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/USNavy/status/1244027034600423424


The people of New York must be very excited

niallo27

BanditLuke wrote: »

Oh don't worry China have a day of reckoning coming. The world is not going to forget about this.

You make it sound like you are planning something personally.

Away With The Fairies

This virus is spreading so fast with over 660,000 people infected. Can this be on par with the Spanish flu?

Un1corn

niallo27 wrote: »

You make it sound like you are planning something personally.

He is probably right though.

tobefrank321

cnocbui wrote: »

If you need a ventilator made by Tesla at the moment, you would be out of luck as they haven't made any. Same for the vaunted 'Dyson' (not really Dyson) ventilator. If there were actually as many ventilators being made and delivered, as there are tweets and headlines about them, that would indeed be useful.

FFS you aren't seriously comparing Dyson with Musk companies??

One makes vacuam cleaners. The other is trying to put a man on Mars and built the biggest Rocket since Saturn 5 while also delivering over a million electric cars.

Blueshoe

Blueshoe wrote: »

No he's the prime minister of Italy. The European epicenter of the virus. 10,000 dead and 90000 infections.
Trump though. He's the only one we like to criticize. Because he is orange and says words

In fairness to the Italian pm he hasn't been tweeting that its just a hoax, it's just like the flu, and using it for his personal gain etc and his fanboys lapping it up all the same

Hobgoblin11

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This virus is spreading so fast with over 660,000 people infected. Can this be on par with the Spanish flu?

flu v pneumonia, not similar

DisneyLover

niallo27 wrote: »

Thsts some name.

The Spanish princess Im assuming not the Cuban one!

Kermit.de.frog

New York reports 277 new deaths so far today. Highest total so far. 140 yesterday.

7,054 new cases.

owlbethere

Bondi beach in Sydney closed last week. Before the closure, there was a beach party or large crowds gathered on Bondi beach despite social distancing guidelines that were implemented there. I was reading an article earlier of people who were at the crowded beach are now showing signs of the coronavirus.



Just goes to show the importance of social distancing even outside.

caveat emptor

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/USNavy/status/1244027034600423424


The people of New York must be very excited

12 operating beds? How many ICU? is this just propaganda. I think our boat on the Liffey probably has 12 beds.

elperello

cnocbui wrote: »

If you need a ventilator made by Tesla at the moment, you would be out of luck as they haven't made any. Same for the vaunted 'Dyson' (not really Dyson) ventilator. If there were actually as many ventilators being made and delivered, as there are tweets and headlines about them, that would indeed be useful.

Thanks be to goodness I don't need one.
My point was that if Tesla or Dyson or anybody else made one I wouldn't be worried about their ego or twitter count.

DisneyLover

tobefrank321 wrote: »

FFS you aren't seriously comparing Dyson with Musk companies??

One makes vacuam cleaners. The other is trying to put a man on Mars and built the biggest Rocket since Saturn 5 while also delivering over a million electric cars.

Tesla is owned by Elon but Tesla has nothing to do with Space X!

Westernyelp

tobefrank321 wrote: »

FFS you aren't seriously comparing Dyson with Musk companies??

One makes vacuam cleaners. The other is trying to put a man on Mars and built the biggest Rocket since Saturn 5 while also delivering over a million electric cars.

In fairness they also make those things that blow piss off your hands on to the floor.

dougm1970

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

New York reports 277 new deaths so far today. Highest total so far. 140 yesterday.

wow. tell me, where do you get those new york stats from ?

Beasty

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This virus is spreading so fast with over 660,000 people infected. Can this be on par with the Spanish flu?

I really don't think Spanish flu had the environment to spread this quickly. Air travel was in its infancy, and it would have spread between continents on boats rather than planes with a much slower transmission within countries also. Back at that time most people rarely left their home town

BanditLuke

niallo27 wrote: »

You make it sound like you are planning something personally.

You must have missed the part where i said the world so.

Blueshoe

caveat emptor wrote: »

12 operating beds? How many ICU? is this just propaganda. I think our boat on the Liffey probably has 12 beds.

Operating beds for surgery.
Over 1000 patient beds

If we looked at any other country and saw almost 2500 cases and 36 deaths, we’d be wondering what they were doing right.

Things are going very well so far but obviously we need to try bolt in the elders and avoid infecting nursing homes.

Kermit.de.frog

dougm1970 wrote: »

wow. tell me, where do you get those new york stats from ?

New section for the US on worldometers.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/us/

igCorcaigh

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This virus is spreading so fast with over 660,000 people infected. Can this be on par with the Spanish flu?

I've been considering this question too.

And in some ways, it's apples and oranges.
The 1918 flu had a higher mortality rate and a much younger susceptibility group, which of course is more tragic, no disrespect to the ill and elderly.

We also have a much higher global population now with air travel being a perfect transmission route between countries.

It will certainly be the worst respiratory illness pandemic since 1918,but then again, consider HIV, smallpox, polio etc.