CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

Westernyelp

DisneyLover wrote: »

Tesla is owned by Elon but Tesla has nothing to do with Space X!

Spacex and Tesla use each others technologies and innovations

statesaver

caveat emptor wrote: »

12 operating beds? How many ICU? is this just propaganda. I think our boat on the Liffey probably has 12 beds.

Saw on Sky News that the ships will be used for non coronavirus patients so it can free up beds in New York hospitals.

Shelly66

People saying China and conspiracy theories what about North Korea?
Possibly some biochemical virus world cannot detect. Ok conspiracy theories BUT , I had a nuclear bone scan Tuesday 3rd March in Mater . Radioactive for 24 hrs , was injected into blood stream to do scan . Woke Wednesday 4th to a bad throat . Started off taking paracetamol and neurofen plus Wednesday didn’t help at all . Thursday 5th saw GP gave me augmentin in case it was bronchitis sinuses paining whether I had temp dunno ( wasn’t like what’s been described) but I proceeded to develop a racking cough 2 days later. Friday 6th.Then chest pressure Sunday Monday8/9th . Then rang gp Wednesday 11th got second antibiotic and steroids by phone. He brought me in Thursday 12th lungs clear . Next day criteria changed for testing for all respiratory cases to be tested so had I been there fri /sat I would have been tested . He rang me paddy’s day Tuesday 17th I had improved immensely.
So I wondered is it possible I had symptoms but the radiation dissipated them in some way?? My conspiracy theory

Hobgoblin11

Deleted User wrote: »

If we looked at any other country and saw almost 2500 cases and 36 deaths, we’d be wondering what they were doing right.

Things are going very well so far but obviously we need to try bolt in the elders and avoid infecting nursing homes.

we will reach a day when the deaths are likely to be huge, right now is early days for us, it takes weeks for many to die from the disease

owlbethere

cnocbui wrote: »

If you need a ventilator made by Tesla at the moment, you would be out of luck as they haven't made any. Same for the vaunted 'Dyson' (not really Dyson) ventilator. If there were actually as many ventilators being made and delivered, as there are tweets and headlines about them, that would indeed be useful.

If I needed a ventilator, I definitely wouldn't want one made by Dyson.

tobefrank321

elperello wrote: »

Thanks be to goodness I don't need one.
My point was that if Tesla or Dyson or anybody else made one I wouldn't be worried about their ego or twitter count.

There's some very fussy people out there. They'd check the label first of the ventilator.

Trump turned to GM. A great company but still with a 20th century mindset. Lets see how it plays out.

Personally I would have gone with Tesla.

old_aussie

BanditLuke wrote: »

Oh don't worry China have a day of reckoning coming. The world is not going to forget about this.

The world is not buying any of the statistics the trash talking Xi Jinping, the Lying Butcher of China provides.

The world should stop all trade with China for 10 years and until Xi Jinping, the Lying Butcher of China and his crony government can supply verified data.

I see Xi Jinping, the Lying Butcher of China is having a big sell-off of all their faulty medical supplies.

Un1corn

Shelly66 wrote: »

People saying China and conspiracy theories what about North Korea?
Possibly some biochemical virus world cannot detect. Ok conspiracy theories BUT , I had a nuclear bone scan Tuesday 3rd March in Mater . Radioactive for 24 hrs , was injected into blood stream to do scan . Woke Wednesday 4th to a bad throat . Started off taking paracetamol and neurofen plus Wednesday didn’t help at all . Thursday 5th saw GP gave me augmentin in case it was bronchitis sinuses paining whether I had temp dunno ( wasn’t like what’s been described) but I proceeded to develop a racking cough 2 days later. Friday 6th.Then chest pressure Sunday Monday8/9th . Then rang gp Wednesday 11th got second antibiotic and steroids by phone. He brought me in Thursday 12th lungs clear . Next day criteria changed for testing for all respiratory cases to be tested so had I been there fri /sat I would have been tested . He rang me paddy’s day Tuesday 17th I had improved immensely.
So I wondered is it possible I had symptoms but the radiation dissipated them in some way?? My conspiracy theory

There is no conspiracy theory about China. The virus began there. They are trying to distance themselves from these claims and blaming it on America and Italy.

elperello

Blueshoe wrote: »

Operating beds for surgery.
Over 1000 patient beds

I understand that the plan is to use the ship for regular hospital patients not Covid 19 sufferers.

tobefrank321

statesaver wrote: »

Saw on Sky News that the ships will be used for non coronavirus patients so it can free up beds in New York hospitals.

Its a risky strategy. If even one infected patient gets on that ship it could end up like the cruise ships or worse. I can see medics infected and then infecting patients.

cnocbui

tobefrank321 wrote: »

FFS you aren't seriously comparing Dyson with Musk companies??

One makes vacuam cleaners. The other is trying to put a man on Mars and built the biggest Rocket since Saturn 5 while also delivering over a million electric cars.

Yes, you are right, they are incomparable: one makes a lot of profit and the other doesn't, regularly running back to the market to raise fresh capital to keep the tweet train in play.

tobefrank321

cnocbui wrote: »

Yes, you are right, they are incomparable: one makes a lot of profit and the other doesn't, regularly running back to the market to raise fresh capital to keep the tweet train in play.

Ok now I know you're taking the piss.

old_aussie

Deleted User wrote: »

If we looked at any other country and saw almost 2500 cases and 36 deaths, we’d be wondering what they were doing right.

Things are going very well so far but obviously we need to try bolt in the elders and avoid infecting nursing homes.

What planet are you on?

cnocbui

https://twitter.com/spettypi/status/1244042760904224768

beggars_bush

Beasty wrote: »

I really don't think Spanish flu had the environment to spread this quickly. Air travel was in its infancy, and it would have spread between continents on boats rather than planes with a much slower transmission within countries also. Back at that time most people rarely left their home town

Soldiers on boats and trains spread that disease among the general population

statesaver

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Its a risky strategy. If even one infected patient gets on that ship it could end up like the cruise ships or worse. I can see medics infected and then infecting patients.

I'd imagine patients would be tested before going onto the ship. Yes, a risky strategy but hope it works.

kilkenny31

caveat emptor wrote: »

12 operating beds? How many ICU? is this just propaganda. I think our boat on the Liffey probably has 12 beds.

12 operating rooms. Most hospitals in Ireland wouldn't have that.

Kermit.de.frog

cnocbui wrote: »

https://twitter.com/spettypi/status/1244042760904224768

Makes 506 new deaths so far today across the US, with 19,145 new cases so far.

End total for yesterday in terms of fatalities was 401.

wakka12

fr336 wrote: »

Worldometers is such a great site. Of active cases in Italy, 94% are mild and 6% are critical. It's still really really bad, but not as mad sounding as the headlines...

Yes it's important context but I don't think it's any kind of media sensationalism responsible for the headlines coming out of Italy, the numbers simply are sensational

woohoo!!!

Un1corn wrote: »

There is no conspiracy theory about China. The virus began there. They are trying to distance themselves from these claims and blaming it on America and Italy.

It originated there, we all know this. Same way viruses have jumped to humans for millennia. Next one could be from here for all we know.

What we have seen is Chinese folk, whether it's guilt or otherwise, since stepping up to the plate. They went through the biggest lock down in history, not their fault the west didn't pay attentionm

Away With The Fairies

beggars_bush wrote: »

Soldiers on boats and trains spread that disease among the general population

And we allowed plane loads of people into the country.

Strazdas

cnocbui wrote: »

https://twitter.com/spettypi/status/1244042760904224768

Those numbers are incredibly bad for a city of 8m

old_aussie

old_aussie wrote: »

What planet are you on?

In the country were we predicted 15000 cases by month end. So yeah, things are going much better than predicted, thanks.

beolight

bekker wrote: »

ICUs - anyone any information about supplies of Helmet CPAP available to the Irish Hospital system, and whether their use forms any part of the treatment strategy.

Big advantage of CPAP is that it does not require intubation of the cases for which it is inititaily suitable.

It is relatively simple technology so it may be possible to produce and assemble here.



Italians have been adapting French diving masks with 3-D printed fittings.



One study from Italy showed 30% of admissions needed respiratory support which was met with Helmet CPAP (not face mask CPAP*).
https://rebelem.com/covid-19-a-powerful-message-from-italy/

Few days ago I read a report somewhere that Italians had found that with CPAP usage a significant number of the hospitalised did not deteriorate to the expected extent and so did not need ICU beds. (didn't link it unfortunately).

https://www.nih.gov/news-events/nih-research-matters/helmet-based-ventilation-eases-respiratory-distress
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https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=Exhaled+air+dispersion+during+non-invasive+ventilation+via+helmet+masks

Bumping this can anybody with 3D printer replicate this maybe Doctors could use their network to converse with the Italians

statesaver

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

And we allowed plane loads of people into the country.

Sure Simon said we couldn't.

'We can't ban travel': Health Minister rules out screening for Covid-19 at Irish airports

https://www.thejournal.ie/we-cant-ban-travel-health-minister-rules-out-screening-at-irish-airports-as-covid-19-spreads-5022235-Feb2020/

Best boys in the EU class are the Irish

bekker

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

This virus is spreading so fast with over 660,000 people infected. Can this be on par with the Spanish flu?

There are reckoned to be to 60 or more times that number infected, they just were either never tested, or tested at stage when they were shedding insufficiently to register as positive.

Personally I would be quite surprised if less than 100M have been infected to date. Were it ever possible to confirm such figures other than in retrospect.

threeball

wakka12 wrote: »

Yes it's important context but I don't think it's any kind of media sensationalism responsible for the headlines coming out of Italy, the numbers simply are sensational

Sensational right now but the USA will eclipse that significantly. Both cases and death rate are rocketing. Trump is in complete denial and there's division everywhere you look. Governers criticising other governers, trump criticising governers, the republican democrat feud at an all time low. I wouldn't be surprised to see 250,000 die there in the next 2 to 3 months.

Atlantic Dawn

Even Kim Jong-un bored off his head like the rest of us, he has the luxury of being able to make his own fun with a missile launch, the sooner the football is back the better...

North Korea fired at least one "unidentified projectile" into the sea off its east coast, the Yonhap news agency reported, citing the South's military Joint Chiefs of Staff.

The projectile was fired towards the Sea of Japan, also known as the East Sea, the report said, adding that additional details were not immediately available from military officials.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0328/1127047-north-korea-missile/

V8 Interceptor

Silent Running wrote: »

I have a vision in my mind of a smug English person explaining the UK strategy with a bucket and a bottle with hole in it. No matter how much he tips the bucket back, the water keeps flowing, and the bottle is full.Is he doing it right?

I wouldn't get too smug ourselves. Our Government have flights still coming in from all over the place despite a pandemic raging.

Not very smart is it?

Muahahaha

tobefrank321 wrote: »

If anyone can solve the ventilator problem its Musk/Tesla. Far more innovative and dynamic than GM.

Trump turned to the wrong company.

Depends on Musks frame of mind, we dont want a repeat of the mini submarine in the tight caves incident.

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/USNavy/status/1244027034600423424


The people of New York must be very excited

Its views as a mix between Independence Day and his re-election campaign. I've no doubt they are planning on using it again in TV ads for the presidential campaign in October.

Problem is Cuomo is screaming out for 30,000 ventilators. The virus is a lot more serious than sending a ship to New York with 12 operating theaters and making grandstanding speeches about it. Dont get me wrong, its better than nothing but its still nowhere near enough.

cnocbui

owlbethere wrote: »

If I needed a ventilator, I definitely wouldn't want one made by Dyson.

Don't worry, apparently they are just taking all the credit for a design another company came up with, so it's not really a Dyson.

How about one made by Airbus, who are leading their own consortium? I doubt any of us would care by the point we needed one.

woohoo!!!

statesaver wrote: »

Sure Simon said we couldn't.

'We can't ban travel': Health Minister rules out screening for Covid-19 at Irish airports

https://www.thejournal.ie/we-cant-ban-travel-health-minister-rules-out-screening-at-irish-airports-as-covid-19-spreads-5022235-Feb2020/

Best boys in the EU class are the Irish

No vaccine for u

Woodsie1

statesaver wrote: »

Sure Simon said we couldn't.

'We can't ban travel': Health Minister rules out screening for Covid-19 at Irish airports

https://www.thejournal.ie/we-cant-ban-travel-health-minister-rules-out-screening-at-irish-airports-as-covid-19-spreads-5022235-Feb2020/

Best boys in the EU class are the Irish

While other EU countries were restricting the free movement of people in mainland europe,our bunch of morons deciding it was a good time to bow down and lick the feet of the EU when we are on an island with way easier ways of reducing the spread of the virus.
Fcuking fools.

woohoo!!!

Muahahaha wrote: »

Depends on Musks frame of mind, we dont want a repeat of the mini submarine in the tight caves incident.





Its views as a mix between Independence Day and his re-election campaign. I've no doubt thy are planing on using it again in tv ads come the presidential campaign in October.

Problem is Cuomo is screaming out for 30,000 ventilators. The virus is a lot more serious than sending a ship to New York with 12 operating theaters and making grandstanding speeches about it. Dont get me wrong, its better than nothing but its still nowhere near enough.

Trump is a fool. Yer man is still a vacuous tulip

kowloon

beolight wrote: »

Bumping this can anybody with 3D printer replicate this maybe Doctors could use their network to converse with the Italians

The plans are online for the valves, but the masks might be a little harder to het.

V8 Interceptor

Can someone explain why three flights are landing from Ethiopia at early morning while everyone is locked in their house?

kilkenny31

bekker wrote: »

There are reckoned to be to 60 or more times that number infected, they just were either never tested, or tested at stage when they were shedding insufficiently to register as positive.

Personally I would be quite surprised if less than 100M have been infected to date. Were it ever possible to confirm such figures other than in retrospect.

Highly unlikely that anywhere near 100 million have been infected. Even a low estimate of 0.5 - 1% death rate would mean that 500,000 to 1 million would have died by now if that were the case.

Beasty

Deleted User wrote: »

In the country were we predicted 15000 cases by month end. So yeah, things are going much better than predicted, thanks.

If we manage to get 150,000 test results by the end of the month I suspect we would then be at 15,000 confirmed cases. Alas I suspect we will only have a third or less of that number of test results. We were never going to hit 15,000 while we were only ever testing 2,000 now increasing to 4,500 a day. The one (and possibly only) way to keep down confirmed figures is to keep down the numbers tested

Based on what's happening elsewhere we could well have 10s of thousands, perhaps add another 0 to that, of actual infections (bearing in mind up to 80% may not show symptoms but can still spread it which is why social distancing is critical to slow the spread)

Strazdas

Strazdas wrote: »

Those numbers are incredibly bad for a city of 8m

That’s just NYC itself don’t forget. The entire metropolitan area (Newark, Jersey City etc) has a population of nearly 20m.

alwald

Lavinia wrote: »

I expected such comments of cours cancer is not contagious but im just saying that covid is not as deadly as some other illnesses are

Compare like with like then as comparing cancer with Covid-19 isn't right.

Woodsie1

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Can someone explain why three flights are landing from Ethiopia at early morning while everyone is locked in their house?

Are you serious?
Thats just stupid if true?

gozunda

Updated list on essential occupations...

https://www.rte.ie/amp/1127041/

wakka12

Deleted User wrote: »

In the country were we predicted 15000 cases by month end. So yeah, things are going much better than predicted, thanks.

Yes, they are definitely going well. We may not even reach the revised best case scenario of 5000 by the end of the month.

kowloon

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/USNavy/status/1244027034600423424


The people of New York must be very excited

No amount of dramatic music can make that dribbling ****wit sound inspiring.

woohoo!!!

Beasty wrote: »

If we manage to get 150,000 test results by the end of the month I suspect we would then be at 15,000 confirmed cases. Alas I suspect we will only have a third or less of that number of test results. We were never going to hit 15,000 while we were only ever testing 2,000 now increasing to 4,500 a day. The one (and possibly only) way to keep down confirmed figures is to keep down the numbers tested

Based on what's happening elsewhere we could well have 10s of thousands, perhaps add another 0 to that, of actual infections (bearing in mind up to 80% may not show symptoms but can still spread it which is why social distancing is critical to slow the spread)

Touching me, touching you, uh huh

nthclare

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Can someone explain why three flights are landing from Ethiopia at early morning while everyone is locked in their house?

Which airport did these flights land in?

Maybe they're extra medical staff or something???

V8 Interceptor

Woodsie1 wrote: »

Are you serious? Thats just stupid if true?

3 coming in early from Addis Ababa.

Such a traditional Irish route after all...

Ha Long Bay

V8 Interceptor wrote: »

Can someone explain why three flights are landing from Ethiopia at early morning while everyone is locked in their house?

Already explained on the aviation forum. No conspiracy.

Hogzy wrote: »

Theres currently 3x Ethiopian aircraft within 30mins of each other all bound for Dublin. ETH574 eta 3:40am (B787), ETH500 eta 4:20am (B777) and ETH552 eta 4:30am(B787).

Wonder are these stopover flights to recover people from the United States?

IngazZagni wrote: »

No this is a daily thing. They are fuel stops as the high altitude in Addis Ababa makes it extremely performance limiting for aircraft so are unable to takeoff with the quantity of fuel required to get to the USA.

Sawduck

The street I live on is usually full of life on a Saturday night even during storms but tonight it's so quiet it's actually kind of spooky, but I'm glad my neighbours seem to be doing the right thing

V8 Interceptor

nthclare wrote: »

Maybe they're extra medical staff or something???

From Ethiopia?



(Coming into Dublin)