CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

igCorcaigh

cameramonkey wrote: »

If his updates are so good, how many people have been tested and results processed, how many tests are we now doing per day? This is a basic process that WHO says should be part of the reaction to the virus.

I think they are doing their genuine best. And I'm no FG voter. Resources can't be magiced up. I think they should be braver on leveraging private resources though.

caveat emptor

cameramonkey wrote: »

If his updates are so good, how many people have been tested and results processed, how many tests are we now doing per day? This is a basic process that WHO says should be part of the reaction to the virus.

testing is a joke. Needs to be improved. He is dependent on info from HSE as we all are.

Question:
"Can we do more testing?"

Answer:
"We'll get a boat, convert stadiums etc..."

2 weeks later.

"we said we could do more tests you never asked about results"

lawred2

cameramonkey wrote: »

If his updates are so good, how many people have been tested and results processed, how many tests are we now doing per day? This is a basic process that WHO says should be part of the reaction to the virus.

I'd love to see how good a job you'd be doing.

Cork Boy 53

daheff wrote: »

How many have recovered sufficiently to come out of ICU?....or are all 88 still in ICU?

Unfortunately a substantial percentage of them have died.

FVP3

bekker wrote: »

Very little to do with COVID-19, that type of scumbag does it to gardai and emergency worker all the time.

I've witness a number of public order arrests of the type over the years and they have increasingly involved the foulest curses, physical threats, attempted assault, and voluminous spitting.

Previously it just has never been prosecuted as is should have been, and tolerated behaviour becomes normalised over time.

As a state we have tolerated assaults on gardai and emergency services, never stamping down on the perpetrators.

Hopefully this will change in the future. Our Judiciary needs an overhaul.

Its great that they are taking this seriously now, but spitting at gardai should always have been taken seriously. Allowing it to continue without reprimand reduced the power of the State.

Stewball

caveat emptor wrote: »

Genuinely think Simon Harris is showing real leadership during this. His daily updates are great. Whatever about why we are in this situation and the blame game. We are in the sh!t. I've been very impressed by him.

I don't have much faith in him.

After hearing the news yesterday that the virus is rampant in nursing homes and only a couple weeks ago he was criticising some nursing homes for implementing visitor bans.

Imagine if they listened to him and lifted their bans....

caveat emptor

lawred2 wrote: »

Ah yeah - 'new research'

Ah yeah random person on the internet saying "ah yeah" :pac:

Professor Moriarty

FVP3 wrote: »

Hopefully this will change in the future. Our Judiciary needs an overhaul.

Its great that they are taking this seriously now, but spitting at gardai should always have been taken seriously. Allowing it to continue without reprimand reduced the power of the State.

Reprimand? They should reprimand their nuts.

expectationlost

why didn't the government use a cargo plane for the PPE cargo rather then a passenger plane?
seems like cargo photo is wrong https://twitter.com/yvonnectobin/status/1244070580711817216

Ger Roe

stephenjmcd wrote: »

First one is due in dublin around 3pm.

2nd flight left dublin this morning and another one due out in the next hour.

Today's flights

EIN9018 EI-EIM due out 1020z to PEK.
EIN9020 EI-FNG due out 1320z to PEK.

I have just watched on Flight Radar as EI9019 inbound and EI9018 outbound, crossed over each other over Denmark.

Great to see. Next up is EI9020 at 13:20hrs. Thunderbirds are GO!

bekker

GooglePlus wrote: »

Other countries took it upon themselves to go through unofficial channels, so they reap what they sow.

The Spanish essentially ordered testing kits on Alibaba

From the illustration in one of reports linked to previously so did the Dutch.

It was in a Dutch populist paper akin to Sun, Star and Mirror but the items illustrated looked crap, but hey came with 'certificates' which is a speciality of Alibaba and Banggood sellers.

cameramonkey

lawred2 wrote: »

I'd love to see how good a job you'd be doing.

So you are happy that the HSE is testing on their last figure from 23 march an average of 700 per day since the start of the outbreak. i am not. The WHO says testing is one of the main pillars of the fight against this virus.

NaiveMelodies

expectationlost wrote: »

why didn't the government use a cargo plane for the PPE cargo rather then a passenger plane?

They thought it was only fair that the Cargo was treated properly. Rare I agree with the gov but I do on this.

Logan Roy

expectationlost wrote: »

why didn't the government use a cargo plane for the PPE cargo rather then a passenger plane?

You don't just find lots of cargo planes lying around....

shocksy

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Unfortunately a substantial percentage of them have died.

Wrong

The figure of 88 is the amount of people currently in ICU as of today.

This was confirmed by the HSE earlier today.

cameramonkey

expectationlost wrote: »

why didn't the government use a cargo plane for the PPE cargo rather then a passenger plane?

top photo is a german aircraft not EI.

Cork Boy 53

FVP3 wrote: »

Hopefully this will change in the future. Our Judiciary needs an overhaul.

Its great that they are taking this seriously now, but spitting at gardai should always have been taken seriously. Allowing it to continue without reprimand reduced the power of the State.

Before the virus outbreak this was seen as antisocial scummy behaviour but not generally regarded as potentially life threatening. That has all drastically changed now.

lawred2

caveat emptor wrote: »

Ah yeah random person on the internet saying "ah yeah" :pac:

I think you understand my point well enough.

There's 'new research' advanced all the time saying anything people want it to say. Often wholly contradictory of previous 'new research'..

Is also very easy to say 'new research' to add credibility to what you're saying in many people's unquestioning eyes without even having to link to a source or synopsis.

I've 'new research' that shows the virus can get through walls... Be much safer if we were disinfecting all our walls.

snotboogie

bekker wrote: »

Very little to do with COVID-19, that type of scumbag does it to gardai and emergency worker all the time.

I've witness a number of public order arrests of the type over the years and they have increasingly involved the foulest curses, physical threats, attempted assault, and voluminous spitting.

Previously it just has never been prosecuted as is should have been, and tolerated behaviour becomes normalised over time.

As a state we have tolerated assaults on gardai and emergency services, never stamping down on the perpetrators.

Her Facebook photo is captioned "be kind"

FVP3

voluntary wrote: »

I would honestly feel much safer going shopping if everyone around wore masks. Sneeze <8 meters away can pass you the virus the new research shows. If everyone wore masks sneezing or coughing in public wouldn't be that scary. Even healthy people sneeze on occasion.

Yeh, well you can't because there's not enough masks yet.

Its always been the case that a sneeze can travel far, the speed is up to 100 miles and hour. A cough travels less and this virus doesnt seem to lend itself to seezing.

tikkahunter

Blueshoe wrote: »

Leo used a quote from Terminator 2 when addressing the nation during a national crisis.

Leo man bad?

whats your obsession with defending that **** wit ?

wakka12

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-japan-disabled/japan-confirms-28-new-coronavirus-cases-at-disabled-center-nhk-idUSKBN21G0GM?il=0&utm_source=reddit.com
Cluster of 86 test positive at a home for the disabled in Tokyo, 28 were patients,the rest staff and family members

wakka12

https://nos.nl/artikel/2327537-corona-in-nederland-cijfers-van-28-maart.html
Just 26 ICU beds left available in Netherlands now out of 925 in the country

ACitizenErased

Testing cancelled in Cork City today.
https://twitter.com/redfmnews/status/1244245614420000769?s=21

Gooey Looey

cameramonkey wrote: »

everything the HSE do is telling us what will happen in the future nothing about what will happen now. We dont know how many have been tested or how many tests there are per day. They seem more at home with spin than with doing things.

When the plane lands with the gear at the airport it will be like the HSE have found a cure, their media spin will be off the charts.

You do realise no matter what they do it will not be enough. This thing is coming like a tsunami

expectationlost

cameramonkey wrote: »

top photo is a german aircraft not EI.

HSE used both those photos this morning in their briefing
seems like cargo photo is wrong https://twitter.com/yvonnectobin/status/1244070580711817216

cameramonkey

sean29 wrote: »

Just came back from Tallaght (Shamrock stadium) There were a few people there waiting to be tested but the place looked deserted. Rang HSE and was told that there will be no testing there today as they were out of testing kits. No text, no email, nothing! I was told to wait for another appointment

https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=2058062806&page=61

That is from another thread. Its pretty obvious that the testing system is not fit for purpose but the government don't want to tell people. They need to be clear if things are not working out but the HSE have a history of cover ups.

bekker

FVP3 wrote: »

Seriously where do you people come from? What's Putin got to do with the outbreak in China? And why shouldn't he be quiet? Whats he going to say about US and western incompetence?.

Its like trailer park America in here.

There's a clear link between the Trump supporters and the attacks on both China and Irish handling of this. The doom merchants for Ireland who think the government didn't act quickly are often cheer leaders for the orange buffoon.

How does the attempted smear in your final sentence differ in nature from the political posturing and positioning of the likes of Trump and Daily Mail?

cameramonkey

expectationlost wrote: »

HSE used both those photos this morning in their briefing

If you go on Twitter there is a thread saying its a german aircraft. Maybe the HSE are just spinning things a bit. As I said this will be a huge media moment for them to cover up their testing debacle.

Blueshoe

expectationlost wrote: »

why didn't the government use a cargo plane for the PPE cargo rather then a passenger plane?

If they took the seats out they could have carried more. I'd imagine the hull is packed too so maybe they are at capacity. Still would have gotten more in without the seats although perhaps if they were to experience turbulence the packages needed to be anchored down.
Yes good point. Arguing with myself now. Yes

walshb

Heartbreaking story page 18 the Indo today on the death and burial of the island’s first victim, Anne Best!

expectationlost

cameramonkey wrote: »

If you go on Twitter there is a thread saying its a german aircraft. Maybe the HSE are just spinning things a bit. As I said this will be a huge media moment for them to cover up their testing debacle.

this is said to be for prague https://www.facebook.com/ModelAircraft2Share/posts/2781731938612098 https://twitter.com/SnoopDogMoll/status/1244208276880883715

heres a luftansa plane https://www.aircargonews.net/airlines/airlines-fill-passenger-seats-with-cargo-to-meet-demand/

CIARAN_BOYLE

Blueshoe wrote: »

If they took the seats out they could have carried more. I'd imagine the hull is packed too so maybe they are at capacity. Still would have gotten more in without the seats although perhaps if they were to experience turbulence the packages needed to be anchored down.
Yes good point. Arguing with myself now. Yes

I believe cargo aircraft are business as usual but the passenger Aircraft was volunteered by the airline.

cameramonkey

Gooey Looey wrote: »

You do realise no matter what they do it will not be enough. This thing is coming like a tsunami

Well then they need to be clear about what they are saying and give the population the correct information. Spin is what they are doing now.
Why do they not release how many test have been done up to now or how many tests are being done per day. according to another poster they have run out of kits. I dont know if its true but they are not telling it as it is. 700 per day seems to be the number which is not acceptable.

Inquitus

ACitizenErased wrote: »

Testing cancelled in Cork City today.
https://twitter.com/redfmnews/status/1244245614420000769?s=21

Same at Croker, for the same reason.

cameramonkey

expectationlost wrote: »

this is perhaps the correct photos with seats removed as was mentioned before https://twitter.com/SnoopDogMoll/status/1244208276880883715

could be, hope there are some testing kits on it.

niallo27

Well at least postive cases cant go up if you cant test anyone!!!!!!

Professor Moriarty

cameramonkey wrote: »

If you go on Twitter there is a thread saying its a german aircraft. Maybe the HSE are just spinning things a bit. As I said this will be a huge media moment for them to cover up their testing debacle.

Anything positive to say about the HSE/Government/ Ireland/the Universe? Anything at all?

Count Dooku

Dr. Bre wrote: »

Putin has been very quiet

he doesn't even have to say anything - people now can see incompetence of liberal elites without any help

threeball

Another scumbag spitting at cops

https://www.rte.ie/news/munster/2020/0329/1127093-cork-togher-arrest/

Baton to the jaw is the only answer to people like that. Once it goes out that the cops will literally break your jaw for such an act it won't be long stopping.

iguana

bekker wrote: »

It was in a Dutch populist paper akin to Sun, Star and Mirror but the items illustrated looked crap, but hey came with 'certificates' which is a speciality of Alibaba and Banggood sellers.

Oh god, I took a look on aliexpress out of curiosity and you can supposedly buy an antibody test for under thirteen quid! I'm really glad it's unlikely that anyone ordering one would receive it in the near future because can you imagine how likely they are to be accurate?

devnull

Another 209 dead in the UK and another 2,433 cases.

Cork Boy 53

How many specifically cargo aircraft do Aer Lingus actually have? Not many I would think.

CIARAN_BOYLE

cameramonkey wrote: »

Well then they need to be clear about what they are saying and give the population the correct information. Spin is what they are doing now.
Why do they not release how many test have been done up to now or how many tests are being done per day. according to another poster they have run out of kits. I dont know if its true but they are not telling it as it is. 700 per day seems to be the number which is not acceptable.

Last week they were testing 2k a day. This morning they announced they were testing 5k a day. I guess growth has gotten away from them a little.

Away With The Fairies

Talking about masks earlier on and they're only useful if you're sick. How much masks would someone go through if they're sick?

I'm trying to make my own here but don't know how much to actually make.

Gooey Looey

cameramonkey wrote: »

Well then they need to be clear about what they are saying and give the population the correct information. Spin is what they are doing now.
Why do they not release how many test have been done up to now or how many tests are being done per day. according to another poster they have run out of kits. I dont know if its true but they are not telling it as it is. 700 per day seems to be the number which is not acceptable.

I pass on the word that you're not happy!

cameramonkey

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Anything positive to say about the HSE/Government/ Ireland/the Universe? Anything at all?

It's hard to say anything positive when they a have reacted too late to this outbreak and are not doing the basic testing. They seem now to have run out of kits so I suppose they will have to come clean about that. They however will tell us that next week we will be testing 10000 per day and you can feel happy about that. I believe that the doctors and nurses are going to do the best they can but if the HSE continue to hide what is going on it will be difficult for them.

cameramonkey

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Last week they were testing 2k a day. This morning they announced they were testing 5k a day. I guess growth has gotten away from them a little.

can you point me to the official numbers for that claim.

bekker

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Anything positive to say about the HSE/Government/ Ireland/the Universe? Anything at all?

Nice brisk sunny day for the 2k walk?

fritzelly

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Talking about masks earlier on and they're only useful if you're sick. How much masks would someone go through if they're sick?

I'm trying to make my own here but don't know how much to actually make.

Has talk about masks not been done to death, petty squabbling at this stage