CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

cameramonkey

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

On that day they said they were doing 2,000 a day so they had gone from very few to testing a large amount.

This mornings news conference said they were testing 5,000 a day.

https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0329/1127082-coronavirus-tracker/

Why dont they publish the exact amount that have been tested and the amount of test that have been processed to date? This would give us an idea of the if the amount per day has increased significantly. I don't see why if they have nothing to hide that they don't do this.

ZX7R

wakka12 wrote: »

So it seems like they were probably all nursing home deaths again

As of yesterday there are 12 clusters all associated with nursing homes in the country that concerning in relations to further deaths

gmisk

200 new cases today...that is pretty encouraging I think. Numbers not climbing massively each day.

Marsden35

Isn't it true that statistically more people die on weekends?

It's possible that by tomorrow deaths in Ireland will go back to single digits.

murpho999

cameramonkey wrote: »

Doing 5000 but processing how many? Can you give me a link to the overall number of tests carried out.

I think that's the lab numbers.

Why are so may people just determined to say that things are not being done?

1huge1

Agree with posters above, the 10 deaths are tragic, but the 8% increase in cases is promising, especially where we originally had predicted we would be at the end of March.

Lets hope we've got out ahead of this similar to the likes of South Korea and Japan.

Naggdefy

The report about the PPE from China on the news sounds like The Irish Rover..

We have 11,000 masks, 20,000 gloves and 7,000 pairs of eye glasses.

BanditLuke

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

You have to really fear for what is going on in India. They have such dense population centres and now people are trying to flea to rural home towns. It is all a recipe for an absolute catastrophe

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6439aOtzEWs

I feel desperately sad for all those poor people it's beyond comprehension how badly their government has handled this, makes Trump seem like a statesman in comparison

However tough sh1t on the UK tourist's you'd want to be one selfish git to go on holidays over the last few weeks.

murpho999

Gooey Looey wrote: »

They are taking samples from thousands, how many do the process per day? People wait days for results so this figure is where we were at days ago

That's completely normal.

Are you really expecting live daily results. Each day passes shows the trend. People don't seem to get this.

Happy4all

Marsden35 wrote: »

Isn't it true that statistically more people die on weekends?

It's possible that by tomorrow deaths in Ireland will go back to single digits.

Sadly I don't think death is so selective.

walshb

200 is encouraging, but are they really testing enough since the new criteria came in..?

caveat emptor

I know posting anything. By paddy cos grace is a death sentence on here but fvck it. Is he like the Chinese dissenters? Instead of actual assassination it’s just character assassination by the faithful.

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1244283104979804166?s=21

XsApollo

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Could this drop be due to the new testing criteria?

How is the new testing Criteria gonna drop the numbers?
I see this mentioned a few times on the thread.
The criteria will increase the chances of catching cases not drop them.

CIARAN_BOYLE

cameramonkey wrote: »

Why dont they publish the exact amount that have been tested and the amount of test that have been processed to date? This would give us an idea of the if the amount per day has increased significantly. I don't see why if they have nothing to hide that they don't do this.

They publish every week. I guess it's one less thing to do on a dailly basis.

RugbyLad11

gmisk wrote: »

200 new cases today...that is pretty encouraging I think. Numbers not climbing massively each day.

I wouldn't get too excited, the low number is probably due to the fact that the testing criteria has changed.

Quantum Erasure

wakka12 wrote: »

Cases now at 700k, about 30 hours after reaching 600k

May be over a million by the time April rolls around

just looking down through the list of countries, while the individual numbers in most countries in Africa are still low, there's big percentage increases there as well

Too Tough To Die

rossie1977 wrote: »

India was always going to be an issue if it took hold. Couple that with a horrible government and its recipe for disaster.

The absolute poverty in places Delhi, Agra and Mumbai is unimaginable unless you witness it in person. I saw kids as young as 5-6 naked and completely filthy from head to head running around train stations.

Townships in South Africa are going to be extremely hard hit from this. ANC are another government that won't be able to cope with a major outbreak.

First confirmed case in a South African township today in Khayelitsha, Cape Town. Population 400,000.

Naggdefy

Simon Harris looks wrecked.

ZX7R

marilynrr wrote: »

Not necessarily just yet. Some of those numbers could be from people who spread it to other people in their households.

House hold infections would actually help lower infection rates , that is the reason for our lockdown

1huge1

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

I wouldn't get too excited, the low number is probably due to the fact that the testing criteria has changed.

As noted above, with the new criteria, you would expect the known virus numbers to go up, not down.

jesus_thats_gre

harr wrote: »

Happy if it’s just 200 new cases but it seems artificially low at this point .. the number of deaths seems high in comparison to number of cases

Depending on your respective, it could be be argued that it is artificially high relative to other countries that are testing in lower volumes.

Possibly in a strange situation whereby the final numbers will be vastly higher than those being reported in real time but that the the gap between those two sets of figures will be lower here in Ireland.

For example, the number of verified cases here, relative to population, is quite a bit higher than the UK. However, considerably more people have passed away in the UK.

So, while I agree that the numbers here are likely artificially low, my gut instinct is that they are more representative of the truth than a lot of figures in other countries.

murpho999

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

I wouldn't get too excited, the low number is probably due to the fact that the testing criteria has changed.

No as they're still testing lots of people and also those most likely to have it.

Do you think test centres and labs are suddenly empty since the new criteria came in?

Martina1991

cameramonkey wrote: »

The last numbers that were released were as of 23 March, 17,992 tests had been carried out. That was 23 rd March, so approx 700 a day since start of outbreak. Maybe the HSE could publish their testing and processing figures.
If you have more recent numbers I would be happy to correct my self.

cameramonkey wrote: »

Doing 5000 but processing how many? Can you give me a link to the overall number of tests carried out.

You keep saying "doing". What do you mean?!

There wasn't near the amount of tests requested to be processed when we began. Testing has ramped up to try and meet demand. Getting the average number of tests done per day is useless. It makes it seem like we're testing f*ck all.

If the number of tests done as of the 23rd March was ~18,000 and now it is at ~33,000 that implies we have processed ~15,000 tests in the last week, averaging 2,143 a day.

With the number of tests being done per day increasing all the time

macnug

Dana Mealy Tyrant wrote: »

Several of the test centres closed without notice today because they ran out of kits. This will impact reported new cases in a few days. We cannot look at new case numbers as indicative of anything when testing is chopping and changing criteria, or suddenly put on hold. If testing criteria and capacity isn't consistent, then patterns in the cases reported are not meaningful.

Tbh case number lost meaning a few weeks ago in my opinion. Its ICU and death numbers should be compared now.

Deeper Blue

RIP to the 10 that died

The increase of 200 seems promising

Itssoeasy

threeball wrote: »

The Belarusian president has left all sporting events open and is recommending that people drink vodka and wash their hands in it to combat the virus but not at work.

Sure he's a gob****e anyway and I've had conversations with Belarusian who have visited here and it's a complete mess and the president is a dictator basically. Before an elections there the phrase "you can vote for whoever you like, but you know who you should vote for." was said.

Anyway obviously ten more deaths is awful but given the mean ages of the last two days it unfortunately seems to be in nursing homes and given the age group in a nursing homes they are prime targets for this.

gmisk

caveat emptor wrote: »

I know posting anything. By paddy cos grace is a death sentence on here but fvck it. Is he like the Chinese dissenters? Instead of actual assassination it’s just character assassination by the faithful.

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1244283104979804166?s=21

He is a painful mouth anything for a bit of publicity.
I saw he donated...some PPE equipment... great...I could see it because it was a promoted tweet...that tells you all you need to know about this tool.
There are millions of pieces of PPE en route.

Thelonious Monk

How can it possibly be contained in sh*tholes like India and African countries? People live on top of each other, is there even any point in introducing measures?

RugbyLad11

XsApollo wrote: »

How is the new testing Criteria gonna drop the numbers?
I see this mentioned a few times on the thread.
The criteria will increase the chances of catching cases not drop them.

What makes you think that? lots of people have the virus and only have mild symptoms like a cough etc

They now can not be tested because of the new testing criteria

Martina1991

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

I wouldn't get too excited, the low number is probably due to the fact that the testing criteria has changed.

It has changed to try and capture more cases, not decrease them.

Logan Roy

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

I wouldn't get too excited, the low number is probably due to the fact that the testing criteria has changed.

How do people not get it. The testing criteria is stricter so you’d expect to see more positive test results.

Coyote

Number updated to match today's report

Warning today's numbers might be a downward blip due to the change in testing

No Change in number


Slow Change


Big Drop in numbers


again with all of this i'm just trying to show people the 14 day delay in an change in how we deal with this
if you wait till we are overloaded it's too late
everyone has to make up there own mind but at least look at the maths

3 weeks no change 44K
3 weeks slow change 29K
3 weeks big drop 9K

1 month no change 151K
1 month slow change 56K
1 month big drop 11K

intresting visualization of covid
http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

you need to decide what you do today to affect 3 weeks from now

pjohnson

Are we not out of tests again?

Ray Donovan

tscul32 wrote: »

Family member tested last Monday, no results yet! These 200 could be from last week.

My brother was tested on March 18th at 3.30. Still no result. 11 days later!

Jim_Hodge

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

I wouldn't get too excited, the low number is probably due to the fact that the testing criteria has changed.

There's no logic in that. They are testing more than ever before and testing people with more symptoms and, therefore, more likely to have a positive result. Can you explain how having more tests done every day could show less cases?

RugbyLad11

Martina1991 wrote: »

It has changed to try and capture more cases, not decrease them.

But lots of people have the virus and they only have one symptom, so now they won't get tested......

marilynrr

ZX7R wrote: »

House hold infections would actually help lower infection rates , that is the reason for our lockdown

But initially rates would go up because of household infections, after a while we should see the benefits!

Talisman

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

HSE said we are doing 5000 tests a day.

Correction: "around 5,000 people a day".

The HSE are very fond of rounding up positive numbers and reducing negative numbers.

5,000 is a nice headline number but it's meaningless.

bob mcbob

bekker wrote: »

No relevance to the quote, track back posts.

Refers to incident reported in South China Morning Post a few days ago, migrant workers trying to return to neighbouring province. Remember same sort of scenes in Hong Kong about people crossing from the adjoining area.

Doesn't prove Hubei isn't reopening, doesn't mean quarantine hasn't been lifted.

Does prove that people in Jiangxi don't want migrant workers returning, maybe because of fears of viral infection, maybe because huge job losses, and they want those remaining for home boys.

Only have v.sketchy acquaintance with Chinese history, but maybe a bit of Cork/Limerick at work also.

Same images can be used by CPC, as need for strict central control to avoid falling into 'warlordism.

It's all in the spin.

Thats funny.

Police blocking a bridge to stop people leaving Hubei does not mean that the quarantine on Hubei hasn't been lifted.

Mervyn Skidmore

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

Why can't some people accept any promising news, and instead have to get all disappointed and frantic by putting so much negative spin and speculation on any positivity.

It is getting very fcucking tiring on this thread.

It's an endless cycle of:

Low numbers = Testing is a shambles, HSE hiding something, still waiting on results, blah blah blah
High numbers = HSE and government have completely effed up this situation, I saw this coming 10 years ago why didn't anyone else, blah blah blah

RiseAbove4

Is there any rhyme or reason as to who this virus attacks more than others?

Turkey’s former goalkeeper and their most capped player - Rustu Recher - is just 46 and in critical condition with it.

No mentions in any articles of underlying health problems and surely he’d be much fitter than most of us given his former job

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/52084741

Versus Boris Johnson who is 10 years older and has never looked like the healthiest of people or someone who looks after themselves. Yet his case is so mild he’s still working from home

So what’s going on with this thing?

I’m aware there’s two strains of it. Is one more lethal than others?

Seeing a footballer in critical care at the age of just 46 years old is giving me stress to be honest

Quantum Erasure

Ray Donovan wrote: »

My brother was tested on March 18th at 3.30. Still no result. 11 days later!

he must be over it now?

jesus_thats_gre

SleetAndSnow wrote: »

Could this drop be due to the new testing criteria?

The new testing criteria will effectively result in increased positive, no?

So, the number of confirmed cases, relative to the number of testing being performed, will be higher?

The confirmed percentage here up to the change in criteria was just 4%. Whereas it was closer to 10% in the UK. The UK were testing based on a narrower criteria.

Gerianam

nuac wrote: »

I understand that she is an elderly single lady living alone. I wish her well.

She is taking a break from Boards. it was reported yesterday. Stay safe Graces xxxx

Coyote

Logan Roy wrote: »

How do people not get it. The testing criteria is stricter so you’d expect to see more positive test results.

Hi Logan Roy

yes the new test criteria is better and should find more cases.
the only problem is are we getting the resulted of the day when they canceled peoples test so maybe for that day only maybe less people were tested
there is a 3-5 day delay in getting results that what i was told on friday

murpho999

Gooey Looey wrote: »

They are taking samples from thousands, how many do the process per day? People wait days for results so this figure is where we were at days ago

Last week the labs were processing 2000 a day, and it was to increase to 4,000 per day quickly and ultimately 15,000 a day.

XsApollo

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

What makes you think that? lots of people have the virus and only have mild symptoms like a cough etc

They now can not be tested because of the new testing criteria

It also stops the testing of people that don’t have it, by upping the symptoms criteria you are increasing the chances that the people you are testing actually have it so the numbers should increase.
They are still testing the same amount just
More stringent.

JP Liz V1

10,700 waiting on tests

ChikiChiki

Good numbers apart from the deaths of course.

But it could be for a myriad of reasons like we have seen today with test kits so let's not get complacent. That's the only think I fear with lower numbers, complacency.

owlbethere

Sober Crappy Chemis wrote: »

Why can't some people accept any promising news, and instead have to get all disappointed and frantic by putting so much negative spin and speculation on any positivity.

It is getting very fcucking tiring on this thread.

What's forcing you from coming on here and taking part in the thread if it's getting tiring for you?

Believe me, I would love to take all the positives here and I do my best to focus on the positives and loads of good posters here who really push this across with so much sense and putting people at ease. I'm really trying to pick out positives a lot of the time.

On the other hand, we see what's happening in mainland Europe and beyond. What makes you think Ireland is going to be so special. So many people here are holding tight, hoping and praying that this doesn't explode. We're all hoping to see some sort of light at the end of the tunnel.