CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

jam_mac_jam

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As is the other social myth, the housing crisis.

Maybe take the politics elsewhere. The housing situation is not really relevant.

Andrew00

[Deleted User] wrote: »

As is the other social myth, the housing crisis.

Agreed.

Reckless Abandonment

Just saw the sky news reporter showing what it was like getting into china. (Testing and 14 quarantine), I can't see global travel getting anywhere near back to normal until a vaccine/instant testing is sorted. Social distancing will also be the new norm.

bekker

ChikiChiki wrote: »

Between Trump, Boris and that idiot in Belarus. There are some very silly people in power. You would wonder how the fook they have got so far.

Just seen a clip of Belarus president on the news. What a clown.

An ability to manipulate the even greater idiots who elected them.

Marsden35

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Just saw the sky news reporter showing what it was like getting into china. (Testing and 14 quarantine), I can't see global travel getting anywhere near back to normal until a vaccine/instant testing is sorted. Social distancing will also be the new norm.

China called nations "racist" when they said Chinese tourists had to go into quarantine before entering.

When Israel put a halt on flights from China, the Chinese foreign minister said this was just how the Jews were treated in the Holocaust.


Now China is closing its borders to foreign nationals.


Lies, hypocrisy and more lies from the CCP.

Bring manufacturing home! no more reliance on communist dictatorships.

I Am The Law

Curious_Case wrote: »

LETS ALL TRY TO HELP THIS GUY !

What islands are close by and what countries' jurisdiction are they part of ? - lots of embassies around Dublin 2 / Dublin 4

Members of the sailing/yachting community may be able to assist, anyone know where there's a busy sailing/yachting forum ?

Googling "Ireland, Sailing, Yachting" should return a few national/international clubs and/or associations

Minister for Sports ?

Irish shipping companies ?

Irish Navy ?

Let's not.

Seamai

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Fair city seems to be having the best fun. Pubs open and everything.

It's a parallel universe, haven't you noticed? 😋

Curious_Case

Curious_Case wrote: »

LETS ALL TRY TO HELP THIS GUY !

What islands are close by and what countries' jurisdiction are they part of ? - lots of embassies around Dublin 2 / Dublin 4

Members of the sailing/yachting community may be able to assist, anyone know where there's a busy sailing/yachting forum ?

Googling "Ireland, Sailing, Yachting" should return a few national/international clubs and/or associations

Minister for Sports ?

Irish shipping companies ?

Irish Navy ?

He's Dutch so I sent him contact details of the embassies in that area. Hopefully something will work out. Pretty bad to not be able to dock properly and get supplies etc. Him and his girlfriend are at this moment illegally in a country that wouldn't let them in. I'm sure he tried everything as the place he's in now he described as his last hope.

ChikiChiki

bekker wrote: »

An ability to manipulate the even greater idiots who elected them.

100% agree

Yurt2

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Eh the second one.

Trolley crisis showing to be just Wasters turning up with a cold or pissed.

Arse holes.

For flip sake. Engage your brain would you?


You're honestly painful. Absolute doctrinaire wingnut

no.8

I Am The Law wrote:

Let's not.

You are not the law. If verified, it's only right to help someone in need. It's not their fault that we're experiencing a pandemic

Ger Roe

Curious_Case wrote: »

LETS ALL TRY TO HELP THIS GUY !

What islands are close by and what countries' jurisdiction are they part of ? - lots of embassies around Dublin 2 / Dublin 4

Members of the sailing/yachting community may be able to assist, anyone know where there's a busy sailing/yachting forum ?

Googling "Ireland, Sailing, Yachting" should return a few national/international clubs and/or associations

Minister for Sports ?

Irish shipping companies ?

Irish Navy ?

The post doesn't confirm the person's nationality - is he talking about an Irish citizen?

Edit :

Disregard ---- the thread moves too fast, by the time I had asked this question he was confirmed as Dutch. Irish contacts won't be much use to him.

rebeve

Todays case count pretty irrelevant due to lack of testing kits .

fifth

How much of a lag is there between testing and releasing the numbers? Saw comments earlier saying that people are waiting 2 weeks for results. Any truth to that? Are we looking at 2 week old figures from the HSE every night?

Curious_Case

Ger Roe wrote: »

The post doesn't confirm the person's nationality - is he talking about an Irish citizen?

You're right, think he just says European but some of what I suggested might still apply ?

paleoperson

Marsden35 wrote: »

China called nations "racist" when they said Chinese tourists had to go into quarantine before entering.

When Israel put a halt on flights from China, the Chinese foreign minister said this was just how the Jews were treated in the Holocaust.


Now China is closing its borders to foreign nationals.


Lies, hypocrisy and more lies from the CCP.

Bring manufacturing home! no more reliance on communist dictatorships.

Did they really? The Chinese government? I highly doubt that, I don't believe it. I know SJW clowns were doing that, I have not heard of the Chinese government calling other countries racist for quarantining their citizens.

Jinglejangle69

lbj666 wrote: »

Its a mix of everything, people genuinely ill afraid of going near a hospital at the minute. GPs aint sending people to A&E just encase, patients arent demanding to be referred to A&E just encase.
No ones out and about triping falling breaking arms playing sports, getting hit by cars on bikes, getting hit by cars in cars. No ones getting drunk around town.

Numbers were the lowest ever a month ago.

Way before this lockdown.

Seamai

Lundstram wrote: »

And a documentary on Pangolins just finished. :pac:

Well that was educational, so the Chinese eat them and traditional medicine uses their scales for cancer treatment.

Lavinia

Marsden35 wrote: »

China called nations "racist" when they said Chinese tourists had to go into quarantine before entering.

When Israel put a halt on flights from China, the Chinese foreign minister said this was just how the Jews were treated in the Holocaust.


Now China is closing its borders to foreign nationals.


Lies, hypocrisy and more lies from the CCP.

Bring manufacturing home! no more reliance on communist dictatorships.

chine bots are multiplying..

zzzzzzzzzzz

bekker

fifth wrote: »

How much of a lag is there between testing and releasing the numbers? Saw comments earlier saying that people are waiting 2 weeks for results. Any truth to that? Are we looking at 2 week old figures from the HSE every night?

Afraid we just don't know.

The new era of transparency in action?

easypazz

rebeve wrote: »

Todays case count pretty irrelevant due to lack of testing kits .

Depends on how many tests were conducted compared to other days.

gabeeg

Jinglejangle69 wrote: »

Numbers were the lowest ever a month ago.

Way before this lockdown.

They were higher than ever about a month and a half ago.

I'd have second thoughts about visiting A&E right now if I broke my leg

Cilldara_2000

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Just saw the sky news reporter showing what it was like getting into china. (Testing and 14 quarantine), I can't see global travel getting anywhere near back to normal until a vaccine/instant testing is sorted. Social distancing will also be the new norm.

It won't be nor should it be. We'll have to do it for some reasonable length of time but we absolutely will go back to handshakes, hugs, kisses, casual sex etc. And rightly so.

Edit: Should add that I hope 21st century style personal hygiene (IE bathing everyday, washing hands, and not coughing/sneezing like a cnut) will become the new norm.

paleoperson

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

Just saw the sky news reporter showing what it was like getting into china. (Testing and 14 quarantine), I can't see global travel getting anywhere near back to normal until a vaccine/instant testing is sorted. Social distancing will also be the new norm.

I don't see any good outcome for this. I don't see any way forward that is going to make things ok. There's no way out of it.

What it looks like is that this thing will last for months or years and 70% of people could end up getting it with millions of deaths.

The lockdown is only delaying this process - which is good because it will help many more to survive, but this idea of two weeks seems a bit of a farce.

jj880

Need a deep fat fryer.

Cant go without proper chips for months.

declanflynn

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Is it? Its no more of an epicentre than Ireland is right now.

Deaths per million:
Ireland - 9
USA - 7

The USA obviously has 66 times the population of Ireland. But relatively speaking the USA is doing better than most European countries.

If you said New York was an epicentre that would be different.

the US are only testing at 20% of the the rate that we are, factor that into your calculation

WhiteMemento9

jj880 wrote: »

Need a deep fat fryer.

Cant go without proper chips for months.

Takeaways are still open?

Rob A. Bank

YFlyer wrote: »

A few weeks? The current deaths be from people that were infected weeks ago if not longer.

That ship The Diamond Princess which was found to have coronavirus on board in mid February still has active cases ongoing.

Of the 712 total cases... 607 cases recovered and 10 dead. However 105 are currently infected patients, 90 in mild condition and 15 still in serious or critical condition.

Takes ages for some to recover from this damned virus..

washman3

Is the testing centre in Croke Park very busy.?
What about the others.?
Anyone been or seen.??

Ger Roe

washman3 wrote: »

Is the testing centre in Croke Park very busy.?
What about the others.?
Anyone been or seen.??

There were reports earlier today that it was closed due to lack of test kits. Not reported on RTE TV news though.

jj880

WhiteMemento9 wrote: »

Takeaways are still open?

No offense to takeaways - i'd prefer to make my own at the moment.

Reckless Abandonment

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

It won't be nor should it be. We'll have to do it for some reasonable length of time but we absolutely will go back to handshakes, hugs, kisses, casual sex etc. And rightly so.

Edit: Should add that I hope 21st century style personal hygiene (IE bathing everyday, washing hands, and not coughing/sneezing like a cnut) will become the new norm.

I hope your right. Problem with this virus, it will only take one or two people coming into the country with it to start the whole show off again . Contact tracing might have sharpened up to handle it. Time will tell

WhiteMemento9

jj880 wrote: »

No offense to takeaways - i'd prefer to make my own at the moment.

That is fair enough and qute reasonable in the current situation.

recyclebin

Quick table of cases versus population per county.

Population Cases % of Total Pop % of Cases
Dublin 1,347,359 1233 28% 55.69%
Cork 542,868 208 11% 9.39%
Galway 258,058 68 5% 3.07%
Kildare 222,504 61 5% 2.76%
Meath 195,044 46 4% 2.08%
Limerick 194,899 55 4% 2.48%
Tipperary 159,553 53 3% 2.39%
Donegal 159,192 24 3% 1.08%
Wexford 149,722 12 3% 0.54%
Kerry 147,707 53 3% 2.39%
Wicklow 142,425 65 3% 2.94%
Mayo 130,507 26 3% 1.17%
Louth 128,884 34 3% 1.54%
Clare 118,817 34 2% 1.54%
Waterford 116,176 31 2% 1.40%
Kilkenny 99,232 33 2% 1.49%
Westmeath 88,770 67 2% 3.03%
Laois 84,697 14 2% 0.63%
Offaly 77,961 29 2% 1.31%
Cavan 76,176 19 2% 0.86%
Sligo 65,535 12 1% 0.54%
Roscommon 64,544 10 1% 0.45%
Monaghan 61,386 11 1% 0.50%
Carlow 56,932 3 1% 0.14%
Longford 40,873 10 1% 0.45%
Leitrim 32,044 3 1% 0.14%

dougm1970

left of topic.....during isolation, if a man accidentally speaks to his wife, is he still wrong ?

Sean.3516

Was wondering if I could get some opinions on the so-called herd immunity approach to addressing coronavirus.

It seems to make a lot of sense to me that rather than putting every individual into lockdown as we've now done, why don't we lockdown and quarantine every elderly and/or immuno-compromised individual and allow the non-vulnerable to continue their normal business. Within a relatively short period of time, non-vulnerable people will have contracted the virus, recovered from it (in the vast majority of cases) and be immune.

The main critique of this seems to be that it will overload our hospital/ICU capacity. However the people we are putting at risk of contracting the virus (the young/non-vulnerable) are exactly the people who are least likely to require hospitalisation if they get. The vast majority of these people will get mild flu like symptoms and not even need hospitalisation.

Obviously I'd be in favour of highly strict measures to make sure the quarantine of vulnerable people is adhered to. Whatever it takes.

Seems like this might let us have our cake and eat it. Saving the vulnerable people without destroying the economy.

Green farmer

What's the story with supermarkets, are more shoppers wearing masks now ? Haven't been to a shop in over a week, so dont know what the up to date is.

Wibbs

dougm1970 wrote: »

left of topic.....during isolation, if a man accidentally speaks to his wife, is he still wrong ?

Always.

Reckless Abandonment

Sean.3516 wrote: »

Was wondering if I could get some opinions on the so-called herd immunity approach to addressing coronavirus.

It seems to make a lot of sense to me that rather than putting every individual into lockdown as we've now done, why don't we lockdown and quarantine every elderly and/or immuno-compromised individual and allow the non-vulnerable to continue their normal business. Within a relatively short period of time, non-vulnerable people will have contracted the virus, recovered from it (in the vast majority of cases) and be immune.

The main critique of this seems to be that it will overload our hospital/ICU capacity. However the people we are putting at risk of contracting the virus (the young/non-vulnerable) are exactly the people who are least likely to require hospitalisation if they get. The vast majority of these people will get mild flu like symptoms and not even need hospitalisation.

Obviously I'd be in favour of highly strict measures to make sure the quarantine of vulnerable people is adhered to. Whatever it takes.

Seems like this might let us have our cake and eat it. Saving the vulnerable people without destroying the economy.

In an ideal world the vulnerable would have been protected before the virus got here. Doesn't work if the horse has already bolted. The UK tried it but realised it was to late.

frillyleaf

Amirani wrote: »

Test confirmation is more important for contact tracing than anything else.

Yes I know that is extremely important from that point of view but it seems to be quite limited as to who can be tested now so the figures being low in Ireland wouldn’t give me a huge amount of confidence that we have this under control.

I would have thought we would be testing and identifying people in contact with with confirmed cases so people with no symptoms can be tested and self isolate.... or even just be informed. Now they are walking around food shops etc.

So the only way I feel we can see if Ireland is coping well is with hospital admissions and icu capacity to treat people who need it

Be right back

Green farmer wrote: »

What's the story with supermarkets, are more shoppers wearing masks now ? Haven't been to a shop in over a week, so dont know what the up to date is.

The man in front of me this afternoon had a scarf covering his mouth but had no gloves on. Used cash to pay. Only saw about one person wearing an actual mask.

murpho999

tobefrank321 wrote: »

FFS.

People were demanding flights from Northern Italy be grounded in early March until a plan was in place to bring Irish citizens only home in a controlled manner that involved temperature and symptom checks at the very least. These people were ignored by the government. If only the government listened then we'd have avoided a large number of cases and resulting deaths.

The government tried to press on with St Patricks Day Parades and critcised towns who cancelled theres.

People demanded school closures, the government hesitated.

It was obvious nursing homes were a major risk and people were saying that staff were not wearing the nessecay PPE. Ignored. Holohan even wanted to life visitor restrictions. People's criticisms again ignored.

People have been saying for weeks our lockdown has been a farce with no consequences for those who break it. Ignored.

Now people are saying its madness to allow flights in from London and New York without screening or mandatory supervised isolation. Ignored.

People said going ahead with Cheltenham was crazy. The government didn't even bother issuing a travel advisory on that one, not that anyone takes Irish government travel advisories seriously.

And on and on. You clearly haven't been paying attention to the inaction of our government from the start.

Their actions have come very late and too late for those in ICU or worse.

You just go on about the same things all the time and now as it's gone your way you're claiming you're a genius.

No country was stopping flights in February.

Also the flights were bring Irish people back not Italians.

If they stopped Northern Italy flights then people would have made alternative arrangements.

What you were "calling for" in February was far too early too call and either way you could not stop the virus coming in.

So easy to be a doomsayer and then claim wisdom after the event.

The only thing I agree on is Cheltenham.

I think governement and HSE have done a good job and our death rate and numbers in ICU are low compared to other countries.

deise08

Green farmer wrote: »

What's the story with supermarkets, are more shoppers wearing masks now ? Haven't been to a shop in over a week, so dont know what the up to date is.

Yep in our place.
Masks and scarves are on the majority of customers.

Only staff members faces aren't covered.
Scares the customers apparently!

I've a weeks holidays now, and I'm not leavi g the house. I've my mask ready for when I go back. God help them if they challenge me on it.

paleoperson

Mr.S wrote: »

Went today to a large Tesco, a lot of people are wearing (the wrong) masks and gloves (while still touching their face). Everything in stock, even hand sanitizer. Did take 35 mins to get into the store, but worth it to shop in peace.

Surgical masks still help incrementally, they are worth wearing instead of nothing. Though there are different defensible opinions about it.

frillyleaf

ThomasFlynn wrote: »

Is it? Its no more of an epicentre than Ireland is right now.

Deaths per million:
Ireland - 9
USA - 7

The USA obviously has 66 times the population of Ireland. But relatively speaking the USA is doing better than most European countries.

If you said New York was an epicentre that would be different.

Apologies I meant to say NY as opposed to US

cj maxx

dougm1970 wrote: »

left of topic.....during isolation, if a man accidentally speaks to his wife, is he still wrong ?

If it's to ask for food and/or sex its allowed. All other conversation is frowned upon.

growleaves

Ask her to call the cops and hopefully they'll bring a few batons with them. That sorta carry on is going to lead to more illness/deaths and more lockdown time. Health and other frontline workers putting everything on the line and others out partying. Unreal and unacceptable.

Yeah a baton charge is the only way to deal with a garden party.

Although will frontline workers be happy to have to treat skull fractures alongside infectious diseases? Never mind, that's thinking too far ahead.

cosanostra

washman3 wrote: »

Is the testing centre in Croke Park very busy.?
What about the others.?
Anyone been or seen.??

I don't think its a matter of being busy its not a drop in centre so i'd imagine they allocate the max number of tests they can do over the whole day,but it could be that there was a bad batch of test kits or something

Martina1991

jackboy wrote:

Where they they get all the extra trained experienced lab analysts from? This is a genuine question, how many did they hire?

Hospitals didnt hire any extra medical scientists.

Some students that are in 3rd or 4th year have been taken on as lab aides to enter samples on the hospital system and get them ready for transport to the NVRL.

By having the pre analytical work done by lab aides, this frees up scientists to carry out sample preparation and analysis.

blackcard wrote:

There are numerous labs who do water quality, air quality, material testing etc. These would have trained technicians working for them. The HSE have a huge amount of companies assisting them in the current crisis.

Not many of these labs would be accredited to perform testing or have the necessary equipment or qualified staff.

Mervyn Skidmore

Cilldara_2000 wrote: »

It won't be nor should it be. We'll have to do it for some reasonable length of time but we absolutely will go back to handshakes, hugs, kisses, casual sex etc. And rightly so.

Edit: Should add that I hope 21st century style personal hygiene (IE bathing everyday, washing hands, and not coughing/sneezing like a cnut) will become the new norm.

Can't wait, never had that before.