CoVid19 Part XI - 2,615 in ROI (46 deaths) 410 in NI (21 deaths)(29/03)*OP upd 28/03*

MarkY91

ricero wrote: »

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-belarus-president-refuses-to-cancel-anything-and-says-vodka-and-saunas-will-ward-off-coronavirus-11965396

The Belarus president has it sussed

We need to build a wall around this country and leave them to it.

kilkenny31

tobefrank321 wrote: »

It could reach 50 deaths a day at worst. It could go higher.

So far we are following the Italy, Spain trend almost exactly. Cases gradually increase exponentially, then a plateau. But deaths continue to increase as there is a lag between being confirmed and ending up in icu. Eventually icu gets overwhelmed as do medical staff. Experienced medical staff get infected, a number sadly will die. Eventually the majority of those who would normally end up in icu die with little more than sedation.

I hope I'm proved wrong but logic and evidence says otherwise.

Yes but are out confirmed cases not way behind theirs at the same stage? Similarly to our hospitalizations are we not way beind them in terms of actual numbers.

Away With The Fairies

Class MayDresser wrote: »

Where do you get one at this stage?

I don't know where masks can be got now. Chemists were sold out a month ago when we had our first case on the island of Ireland. Or just maybe they weren't selling them and holding over for their own use which you can't blame them.

caveat emptor

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Give over, its 1 example of how even if people were told to use them, they dont have a clue how to use them.

And I fully expect people to say watch a YouTube video etc.

The advice is you dont need to wear one, unless your at risk or already sick they wont give you any better a chance. Even if that advice changed you probably wouldn't be able to get one.

And before anyone says in Korea and china they were them, they've worn them for years because of pollution, poor air quality etc.

AllForIt

MarkY91 wrote: »

We need to build a wall around this country and leave them to it.

I'd love to think Vodka had anti-bacterial properties.

stephenjmcd

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=

What has this got to do with anything?? British army using proper respiratory kit during cs gas .

At this point I think you just spend your day trolling on posts here

AllForIt

MarkY91 wrote: »

We need to build a wall around this country and leave them to it.

I'd love to believe Vodka has anti-bacterial properties.

bekker

Upforthematch wrote: »

Specialist sniffer dogs are to be tested to see if they can detect coronavirus.

The charity Medical Detection Dogs has already trained dogs to spot the scent of malaria, cancer and Parkinson's.

It plans trials on the current pandemic virus with Durham University and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM).

Charity boss Dr Claire Guest said it had to find out how to "safely catch the odour of the virus from patients".

"In principle, we're sure that dogs could detect Covid-19," she said.

'Fast and effective'
If this is proven, the dogs could be used to screen anyone, including those with no symptoms.

"This would be fast, effective and non-invasive and make sure the limited NHS testing resources are only used where they are really needed," Dr Guest said.

LSHTM head of disease control Prof James Logan said research showed dogs could detect the odour of malaria infection with a level of accuracy "above the World Health Organisation standards for a diagnostic".

Link

What a great idea!

Medical Detection Dogs charity has done, and is doing great work, origins a good example of left-field thinking.

Unfortunately it's very expensive (£30k per dog), and not really scalable in the immediate time frame.

Could be of real assistance in longer term it COVID-19 comes in waves.

Professor Moriarty

AllForIt wrote: »

Is that so, I had heard earlier it was 1 in 10 but I suppose the stats are fluctuating all the time and it's hard to get reliable stats until the crisis is over.

A survey in of 165 ICU patients in Britain showed that 86 survived and 79 died. I imagine that this ratio would be similar in Ireland.

branie2

When is the surge supposed to hit us?

BorneTobyWilde

Bobeagleburger

More encouraging trends today, both here and Italy. Keep it up everyone.

AllForIt

branie2 wrote: »

When is the surge supposed to hit us?

Last I heard 3 weeks although this is prolly a ballpark figure.

Professor Moriarty

AllForIt wrote: »

I'd love to think Vodka had anti-bacterial properties.

Would be even better if it was antiviral!

ednwireland

Upforthematch wrote: »

Specialist sniffer dogs are to be tested to see if they can detect coronavirus.

The charity Medical Detection Dogs has already trained dogs to spot the scent of malaria, cancer and Parkinson's.

It plans trials on the current pandemic virus with Durham University and the London School of Hygiene and Tropical Medicine (LSHTM).

Charity boss Dr Claire Guest said it had to find out how to "safely catch the odour of the virus from patients".

"In principle, we're sure that dogs could detect Covid-19," she said.

'Fast and effective'
If this is proven, the dogs could be used to screen anyone, including those with no symptoms.

"This would be fast, effective and non-invasive and make sure the limited NHS testing resources are only used where they are really needed," Dr Guest said.

LSHTM head of disease control Prof James Logan said research showed dogs could detect the odour of malaria infection with a level of accuracy "above the World Health Organisation standards for a diagnostic".

Link

What a great idea!

dogs are just making that stuff up

Kermit.de.frog

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EWBCCqOPSzA

AllForIt

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Would be even better if it was antiviral!

That as well

froog

lot of people mistaking facemasks with respiratory protection.

facemasks protect people from the wearer. surgeons wear them so they don't breath germs into open wounds etc.

respiratory protection protects the wearer.

the typical facemasks you see joe public wearing in asia won't protect you from much. however, if the entire population were to wear them it would do a lot to lessen transmission of the virus.

stephenjmcd

branie2 wrote: »

When is the surge supposed to hit us?

HSE press conference earlier someone said around Easter but same press conference said it's hard to predict.

I'd guess by easter we would have a fair idea give the measures put in place 2 weeks ago would be a month old and the basically lockdown 2 weeks old

Firefox11

speckle wrote: »

poor thing looks very skinny.

The Foxes and other critters with inherit the earth once again when we are gone!

sonofenoch

voluntary wrote: »

Everyone should wear masks so if they carry the virus and sneeze then they don't give it to anybody else.

You read some experts say masks are pointless for the most part, but then you have that professor from South Korea saying why does everyone in a hospital wear masks, makes sense

if everyone wore masks and gloves in public it would surely cut down transmissions ...could never be made compulsory, but if they did?

ArchXStanton

ricero wrote: »

https://news.sky.com/story/coronavirus-belarus-president-refuses-to-cancel-anything-and-says-vodka-and-saunas-will-ward-off-coronavirus-11965396

The Belarus president has it sussed

Aw Belarus... Europe's last dictatorship

Funkfield

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Fantastic Duck Gif

Thanks man. Very much needed!

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

AllForIt wrote: »

Opinion on this? Nonsense or some truth to it?

https://twitter.com/ClarkeMicah/status/1244304917461958656

Well, divide up those deaths amongst all the different causes. How many are dying of covid19 compared to all the other different things people die of?

Basically, it’s too early to know covid’s affect on the overall death rate or how quickly all its victims would have died of something else.

Also, just to say, Hitchens is very intelligent but not qualified in public health or epidemiology. He’s a layperson like anyone else. And how does he know that covid19 wasn’t the direct cause of many of the deaths?

sternn

Below is an excellent video explaining some of the charts we are all seeing during this pandemic. It shows one of the best representations I've seen of comparing how countries are doing vs each other.

https://youtu.be/54XLXg4fYsc

caveat emptor

stephenjmcd wrote: »

What has this got to do with anything?? British army using proper kit during cs gas .

At this point I think you just spend your day trolling on posts here

The training demonstrates that masks work . You said you fully expect people to link a youtube video about how to use a mask.

There's one.

Also imagine the CS gas is corona. Makes it easier to understand.

blackcard

Trump says that masks are going out the back door and that someone should look into this

Seamai

speckle wrote: »

poor thing looks very skinny.

It might be a vixen after having cubs, hope it found some food.

Gods Gift

Seamai wrote: »

It might be a vixen after having cubs, hope it found some food.

A vixen around templebar got many a man in trouble.

Martina1991

gabeeg wrote:

Have any of you caught it?

None yet. *touches wood*
Although i have heard of a cluster of 5 or 6 staff in a lab that have tested positive.