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    #512
    Genghis
    Registered Users Posts: 3,020 ✭✭✭Genghis


    I don't know, I think food shopping is the riskiest permissable activity. What do we gain by restricting lower risk activities.

    Next stage should be iron fist enforcement of the current restrictions.


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    #513
    loveall
    Registered Users Posts: 130 ✭✭loveall


    Abba987 wrote: »
    Thats your decision. But if someone knows somewhere they can be more isolated then surely that's a good move.

    I and others in my family are frontline. And ive elderly close relatives. I implore people to be sensible

    Do we need to exercise at all? Jog around the house? I dont know the answer. What about the poor aul dog can he go out. Surfaces carry the virus. He goes and rolls in the grass now his coat is a surface

    Maybe the whole 2k bit should be left out. Food shopping only


    Thank you for all you're doing on the frontline. It is in gratitude for what you do that I think we should all tow the line.
    I'm safer walking the mountain I've walked every morning for years but it is a 2km drive from my home. You're right, the 2kms makes no sense for me, probably wasn't drafted with rural dwellers in mind, but it is what it is.
    If I flaunt the rules, I open the door to others doing the same, probably with more serious consequences than my own. Surely that would increase the risk, ultimately to you.

    A very small sacrifice for the greater good I'd have thought.


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    #514
    [Deleted User]
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    masculinist wrote: »
    What about shared custody of children ?

    Also I regularly travel 5 km to feed a pet , not a farm animal.

    Are we going to need permits/proof which can be hard to provide and endure stressful interrogation or will common sense prevail about who is stopped going about their business ?

    Similar to you I walk a dog for a disabled lady. It's not a small lapdog or something that could probably cope with being kept at home. If the dog lived within 2km of me I'd be sorted. But it doesn't, I have to drive there. I don't know how that's going to work.


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    #515
    Jinglejangle69
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    PickYourName wrote: »
    Quite possibly the next stage.

    Not sure if that's the current rule in Italy, but it can't be far off it.

    The alternative for us, of course, if we don't stick to the rules is what they have: nearly 1,000 deaths a day.

    Rain comes.

    Puts an end to all this loophole and exercise nonsense.


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    #516
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    Look up "event 201" the timing was impeccable. Thanks Bill.


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    #517
    Jimmy Garlic
    Registered Users Posts: 4,349 ✭✭✭Jimmy Garlic


    loveall wrote: »
    Thank you for all you're doing on the frontline. It is in gratitude for what you do that I think we should all tow the line.
    I'm safer walking the mountain I've walked every morning for years but it is a 2km drive from my home. You're right, the 2kms makes no sense for me, probably wasn't drafted with rural dwellers in mind, but it is what it is.
    If I flaunt the rules, I open the door to others doing the same, probably with more serious consequences than my own. Surely that would increase the risk, ultimately to you.

    A very small sacrifice for the greater good I'd have thought.

    Lenin demanded sacrifices for the so called greater good.


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    #518
    Abba987
    Registered Users Posts: 312 ✭✭Abba987


    Jinglejangle69 wrote: »
    Rain comes.

    Puts an end to all this loophole and exercise nonsense.

    Yes the weather is not helping.

    Jesus this is hard. I miss normal and i miss my family. If we had to now say shut it down for 1 month to restore normality we would. It doesnt need to be as open as it is. Off licence? We all love a drink to get through it but are we postponing the inevitable?

    Unheard of i know but there could be a complete and total lockdown. Food parcels available/ delivered. Google the q outside donaghmede sc today. It cant be halting the spread


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    #519
    Wanderer19
    Registered Users Posts: 258 ✭✭Wanderer19


    Deleted User wrote: »
    Similar to you I walk a dog for a disabled lady. It's not a small lapdog or something that could probably cope with being kept at home. If the dog lived within 2km of me I'd be sorted. But it doesn't, I have to drive there. I don't know how that's going to work.
    If you need to look after animals then that's what you do.


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    #520
    nthclare
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    Im around 500m from a river, would it be permitted to walk down with the fishing rod some evening for a few hours.

    Its quite rural to be honest, it's in the Burren


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    #521
    snoopboggybog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭snoopboggybog


    nthclare wrote: »
    Im around 500m from a river, would it be permitted to walk down with the fishing rod some evening for a few hours.

    Its quite rural to be honest, it's in the Burren

    No, but use your common sense. I'm not saying its okay as will be attacked by other posters.


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    #522
    nthclare
    Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,316 ✭✭✭nthclare


    snoopboggybog wrote: »
    No, but use your common sense. I'm not saying its okay as will be attacked by other posters.

    I understand that, it's probably best if I said nothing lol

    I don't think its fair to be attacked by other posters though.

    I assume there's going to be a lot of people twitching curtains over the next few weeks, nothing better to be doing.
    Luckily I'd be walking down a rickety boreen, and only fields and the odd tractor passing by, its not even a regional road.
    More like a road with grass growing in the middle which would tare the sump of an average car.

    Best I leave it so.

    Thanks


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    #523
    seefin
    Closed Accounts Posts: 1,079 ✭✭✭seefin


    ReginaldSmythV wrote: »
    Little ****ebags kicking ball outside the house here now. From around 4 different houses.

    Ring guards and report


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    #524
    [Deleted User]
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    seefin wrote: »
    Ring guards and report

    They’d destroy the cars if I did. They were gone in fairly sharp anyway whatever happened.


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    #525
    abnormalnorman
    Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭abnormalnorman


    cee_jay wrote: »
    No, the virus isn't airborne. The World Health Organization says the virus that causes COVID-19 doesn't seem to linger in the air or be capable of spreading through the air over distances more than about three feet.
    Stay within 2km of your house, and if meeting people on your cul de sac, enforce social distancing of at least 2 metres.

    According to this it's airborne


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    #526
    Wibbs
    Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,146 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    nthclare wrote: »
    Im around 500m from a river, would it be permitted to walk down with the fishing rod some evening for a few hours.

    Its quite rural to be honest, it's in the Burren
    I wish I lived where you do...

    The rules do seem to be written up with urbanites much more in mind. Understandable as higher population density equals more risk.
    abnormalnorman wrote: »
    According to this it's airborne
    One study, under lab conditions. The virus itself isn't airborne but can be present in aerosols; coughs, sneezes. These aerosols will fall to the ground or otherwise disperse very rapidly. Snot from a cough doesn't hang in the air for three hours. The major and preventable risk of infection is still through close contact, contaminated surfaces and transferring that contamination from your hands to your nose and mouth.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #527
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Jimmy Garlic wrote: »
    Lenin demanded sacrifices for the so called greater good.

    Wow, you are equating what we are doing now to save lives with totalitarianism. Quite the leap there buddy.


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    #528
    Wibbs
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    amadangomor wrote: »
    Wow, you are equating what we are doing now to save lives with totalitarianism. Quite the leap there buddy.
    He also seems to think Bill Gates has something to do with it. :rolleyes:
    Jimmy Garlic wrote:
    Look up "event 201" the timing was impeccable. Thanks Bill.

    Never mind that Gates was just one of the public faces warning about this. Epidemiologists were warning this day would come for decades, and that we weren't prepared for it. Some places in Asia had more preparedness because they'd had SARS and Bird flu and they're faring this better because of it.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



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    #529
    Gael23
    Registered Users Posts: 12,109 ✭✭✭✭Gael23


    If this goes on longer than 2 weeks I will need to travel from Waterford to Dublin to pick up clothing and medication. How will that work?


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    #530
    amadangomor
    Closed Accounts Posts: 2,148 ✭✭✭amadangomor


    Gael23 wrote: »
    If this goes on longer than 2 weeks I will need to travel from Waterford to Dublin to pick up clothing and medication. How will that work?

    Maybe talk to your local guards? They could give you a note in case other guards question you?


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    #531
    abnormalnorman
    Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭abnormalnorman


    Here's one for discussion . . .

    There's a small SPAR shop / petrol station about half a mile from my house . . . . And my neighbours house or course..

    Fairly decent shop . . .. has all the essentials.

    Yet my neighbours (who I spoke to on the phone yesterday eve - very covid 19 conscious . . Obeying all the rules they believe ) will be doin the necessary grocery shop today . . . In ALDI , which is a 10 min drive away to the nearest town.. And I'm sure lots of others will be doin the same . . . .For the sake of saving a few Bob, or getting there favourite brand of Pizza. Will guards stop them (and many many more like them) and make them shop in the local country shop???? Doubt it


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    #532
    PickYourName
    Registered Users Posts: 412 ✭✭PickYourName


    Nothing to say they can't choose where to shop, so why would it be an issue?


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    #533
    jlm29
    Registered Users Posts: 3,818 ✭✭✭jlm29


    abnormalnorman wrote: »
    Here's one for discussion . . .

    There's a small SPAR shop / petrol station about half a mile from my house . . . . And my neighbours house or course..

    Fairly decent shop . . .. has all the essentials.

    Yet my neighbours (who I spoke to on the phone yesterday eve - very covid 19 conscious . . Obeying all the rules they believe ) will be doin the necessary grocery shop today . . . In ALDI , which is a 10 min drive away to the nearest town.. And I'm sure lots of others will be doin the same . . . .For the sake of saving a few Bob, or getting there favourite brand of Pizza. Will guards stop them (and many many more like them) and make them shop in the local country shop???? Doubt it

    You can travel wherever you like to buy food. We are a family of 6. I’d need a credit union loan, and I’d be on the road constantly, if I was trying to feed us a out of the local centra. And our diet would suffer considerably, their range of fruit and veg is shocking. The 2km rule applies to exercise only. And tbh, even though they obviously didn’t and couldn’t say it, I’d imagine it was made with urban dwellers in mind, to make sure everyone didn’t head off to the beach on Sunday


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    #534
    [Deleted User]
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    abnormalnorman wrote: »
    Here's one for discussion . . .

    There's a small SPAR shop / petrol station about half a mile from my house . . . . And my neighbours house or course..

    Fairly decent shop . . .. has all the essentials.

    Yet my neighbours (who I spoke to on the phone yesterday eve - very covid 19 conscious . . Obeying all the rules they believe ) will be doin the necessary grocery shop today . . . In ALDI , which is a 10 min drive away to the nearest town.. And I'm sure lots of others will be doin the same . . . .For the sake of saving a few Bob, or getting there favourite brand of Pizza. Will guards stop them (and many many more like them) and make them shop in the local country shop???? Doubt it


    They’re dead right ! Why not ? We can shop further than 2KM away.
    Can imagine spend a lot less going 10 minutes further to Aldi and have a great choice of fresher food like meat, fresh veg, fresh fruit . We need to keep healthy in this too.


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    #535
    abnormalnorman
    Registered Users Posts: 453 ✭✭abnormalnorman


    PickYourName wrote: »
    Nothing to say they can't choose where to shop, so why would it be an issue?

    Shur how am I allowed travel 10km to the shop . . . If there's a shop down the road from me??? . Is it not the same as exercise. ?? Fear at all we wouldn't spend as much as usual. . . .thats y ? Pick and choose what suits them . . . You can't spend money when your exercising . . . No matter where you are . . .so lets restrict that !! Ha. Joke!


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    #536
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 16,174 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Are there fines/penalties being imposed by Gardai for being where you're not supposed to be or not?


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    #537
    [Deleted User]
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    abnormalnorman wrote: »
    Shur how am I allowed travel 10km to the shop . . . If there's a shop down the road from me??? . Is it not the same as exercise. ?? Fear at all we wouldn't spend as much as usual. . . .thats y ? Pick and choose what suits them . . . You can't spend money when your exercising . . . No matter where you are . . .so lets restrict that !! Ha. Joke!

    I’ve a shop within 2km too. There’s also thousands of houses so if that restriction was in place the shop would be empty within an hour. Of course people need to travel to shop.


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    #538
    snoopboggybog
    Closed Accounts Posts: 454 ✭✭snoopboggybog


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Are there fines/penalties being imposed by Gardai for being where you're not supposed to be or not?

    I know people in different food factories that have to have letters in their car from their employer or risk been followed and escorted home.

    A few were stopped. Seems to be more guards around now than ever.

    Fines aren't a thing yet.


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    #539
    [Deleted User]
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    snoopboggybog wrote: »
    I know people in different food factories that have to have letters in their car from their employer or risk been followed and escorted home.

    A few were stopped. Seems to be more guards around now than ever.

    Fines aren't a thing yet.

    I got my letter yesterday myself. Luckily it doesn’t need to be anything official.


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    #540
    [Deleted User]
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    Can domestic building projects continue? Builders working on empty house on residential road.

    Hoping the answer is no. Most of the rest of us trying to wfh and builders there 7 days a week.


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    #541
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 16,174 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    [Deleted User] wrote: »
    Can domestic building projects continue? Builders working on empty house on residential road.

    Hoping the answer is no. Most of the rest of us trying to wfh and builders there 7 days a week.

    New house stalled near me, if they can't get materials it has to stop anyhow.


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