Restriction questions - the Megathread

GazzaL

GazzaL wrote: »

I presume it'll be ok to go on holidays at the start of next month? I asked Ryanair and they said the flights are still going ahead. It'll be great to get away from this **** for a week.

You haven’t a hope.

davemckenna25

GazzaL wrote: »

I presume it'll be ok to go on holidays at the start of next month? I asked Ryanair and they said the flights are still going ahead. It'll be great to get away from this **** for a week.

Good man, you work away...





lets hope there's no wifi when you get there....



when..


if...


never...

Penfailed

GazzaL wrote: »

I presume it'll be ok to go on holidays at the start of next month? I asked Ryanair and they said the flights are still going ahead. It'll be great to get away from this **** for a week.

Really?!

mariaalice

GazzaL wrote: »

I presume it'll be ok to go on holidays at the start of next month? I asked Ryanair and they said the flights are still going ahead. It'll be great to get away from this **** for a week.

Where would you be going? some lifting of restriction in Spain does not mean bars and restaurants?

xl500

GazzaL wrote: »

I presume it'll be ok to go on holidays at the start of next month? I asked Ryanair and they said the flights are still going ahead. It'll be great to get away from this **** for a week.

Well unless our restrictions are lifted which now run until early may how early next month are you talking about as I dont think travelling to airport to go on holiday would qualify as an essential journey

GazzaL

mariaalice wrote: »

Where would you be going? some lifting of restriction in Spain does not mean bars and restaurants?

Budapest. I booked a 5 star hotel so if I have to eat there I don't mind too much. I won't say much more, I'm already after getting a warning because people took offense to my first post. There's loads of people on the flight, you can see from where people have reserved seats.

callaway92

PTH2009 wrote: »

Every takeaway I've had the last few times tasted unreal

Possibly the oil is not being used as much

Very likely the food in takeaways being used has been stored in freezers for months and they're just using that old stock now.

Just an FYI on that whether you don't mind that.

Quazzie

GazzaL wrote: »

Budapest. I booked a 5 star hotel so if I have to eat there I don't mind too much. I won't say much more, I'm already after getting a warning because people took offense to my first post. There's loads of people on the flight, you can see from where people have reserved seats.

You do realise this is a global pandemic right? There is Covid 19 in Budapest also. 10 dead yesterday for example. Just stay at home FFS

HeidiHeidi

PTH2009 wrote: »

Every takeaway I've had the last few times tasted unreal

Possibly the oil is not being used as much

Unreal good or unreal bad?


I haven't succumbed to the temptation for rubbish food so far, but I can feel it coming.....

jlm29

Quazzie wrote: »

You do realise this is a global pandemic right? There is Covid 19 in Budapest also. 10 dead yesterday for example. Just stay at home FFS

I assume it’s a wind up. But I actually googled it a while ago and only Hungarians are allowed into Hungary, so I don’t think it would be an issue, even if it’s not a joke

GazzaL

Quazzie wrote: »

You do realise this is a global pandemic right? There is Covid 19 in Budapest also. 10 dead yesterday for example. Just stay at home FFS

jlm29 wrote: »

I assume it’s a wind up. But I actually googled it a while ago and only Hungarians are allowed into Hungary, so I don’t think it would be an issue, even if it’s not a joke

I have it booked and the flight is still going FFS. Do you want my transcript from my chat with Ryanair or what? Where did you see that only Hungarians are allowed into Hungary? I'll contact Viktor as well if I have to.

kenmm

GazzaL wrote: »

I have it booked and the flight is still going FFS. Do you want my transcript from my chat with Ryanair or what? Where did you see that only Hungarians are allowed into Hungary? I'll contact Viktor as well if I have to.

Ok, I am giving you the benefit of the doubt here and assume you are not trolling..

If you think you are able to go on holiday (regardless of Ryanairs advice) then I think you are in for a shock.
If you think its acceptable, then you are being quite irresponsible.

Some flights probably will be running as some people will need to travel (gt back home, see family etc).

The concept of a holiday, in Europe at the start of May is extremely unlikely. Further you will probably risk your money as the flight probably wont get cancelled, but the hotel may be ordered closed. Especially as Hungary has no where near peaked with this.

If you are trolling.. then, well done - its a good one!

jlm29

GazzaL wrote: »

I have it booked and the flight is still going FFS. Do you want my transcript from my chat with Ryanair or what? Where did you see that only Hungarians are allowed into Hungary? I'll contact Viktor as well if I have to.

Have a great trip.
https://www.dfa.ie/travel/travel-advice/a-z-list-of-countries/hungary/

rubadub

Would gardai even let you in the airport? I heard of someone who supposedly had to go along knowing the flight would be cancelled, seemingly the only way to get the money back.

There are 2 gardai on the road outside my local tesco checking cars so thought the airport would be an obviously place to catch people doing non essential journeys.

Ohio9

Since they are spreading the virus by going on non essential journeys, do you think it is appropriate to send them to court with mass murder/harm charges or manslaughter charges at the minimum.
I think that would be fair because as a result countless innocents die as a direct action of unnecessary journeys.

osarusan

More severe than just turning people round and sending the home? I'm open to the idea.

On trial for mass murder? Please tell me you are joking.

GazzaL

Bad news everyone, my flight has been cancelled. It might be a case of holidaying in Killarney, although it looks like the Amsterdam flights are still going, that would be a decent trip.

bush

Ohio9 wrote: »

Since they are spreading the virus by going on non essential journeys, do you think it is appropriate to send them to court with mass murder/harm charges or manslaughter charges at the minimum.
I think that would be fair because as a result countless innocents die as a direct action of unnecessary journeys.

Are you for real?

kenmm

GazzaL wrote: »

Bad news everyone, my flight has been cancelled. It might be a case of holidaying in Killarney, although it looks like the Amsterdam flights are still going, that would be a decent trip.

lol - keep em coming GazzaL - don't forget to post some pics of the holiday!

GazzaL

kenmm wrote: »

lol - keep em coming GazzaL - don't forget to post some pics of the holiday!

I'll keep ye updated. No point in being a misery guts about flights being cancelled, one plane door closes and another one opens as they say.

The Darkroom

Hi, I'm a person living in Dundalk, buying a dog from a police man in Cahir Tipperary. He explained it would be ok to pick up the dog and it's considered essential travel.

We called the local Garda station. She picked up the phone and said it's not considered essential travel.

We feel like this whole essential travel thing is basically up to each individual Guard for interpretation.

Does anyone know of an exact answer for this problem, and how I'd get around each guard along the way looking at it differently?

biko

Have the "police man" deliver it as they possibly could blag their way?


Here;s a case similar to yours
https://www.independent.ie/business/farming/rural-life/gardai-turn-farmer-back-after-journey-to-collect-animal-ruled-not-essential-39118576.html

A farmer in Meath was ordered to return home after they ruled his journey to collect an animal was not essential travel.

Stopped at a checkpoint yesterday the farmer insisted his journey to Cavan to collect an animal was essential.

However after Garda enquiries were made, it was ruled it wasn't essential.

The farmer was directed to return home.

Caranica

Sale of animals is not included in any of the animal related exceptions. The person you are buying the dog from is wrong and needs to hold on to the dog until restrictions are lifted.

kenmm

The Darkroom wrote: »

Hi, I'm a person living in Dundalk, buying a dog from a police man in Cahir Tipperary. He explained it would be ok to pick up the dog and it's considered essential travel.

We called the local Garda station. She picked up the phone and said it's not considered essential travel.

We feel like this whole essential travel thing is basically up to each individual Guard for interpretation.

Does anyone know of an exact answer for this problem, and how I'd get around each guard along the way looking at it differently?

It would be hard to imagine any situation where collecting an animal is regarded essential travel. In the case described here it would be like any other purchase of goods or items*.

The only way I could see it being essential is if the animal was at risk or danger (maybe the owner gets sick or something) and even then, making a trip across the country would be unlikely as someone local would most likely be able to assist.

I think if you rang every station along the way you would get the same answer (i.e. this is not essential travel), the person selling the dog here is being selfish and probably has an interest in getting rid of the dog.

If you decide to make the trip anyway, you would be the same as every other person who comes along trying to justify their specific exception to them being considered special enough to break the essential travel rule. Most of the time the people who have to ask aren't essential.


(*Might seem cold to equate the lives of other creatures as goods, but in this context it applies..)

Discodog

So Garden Centres can legally open, they are on the essential list. However my neighbour was stopped on her way to one. She said that they were legally open & the Guard let her pass.

She got stopped, on the way back & told that she shouldn't of gone to the Garden centre.

amandstu

Discodog wrote: »

So Garden Centres can legally open, they are on the essential list. However my neighbour was stopped on her way to one. She said that they were legally open & the Guard let her pass.

She got stopped, on the way back & told that she shouldn't of gone to the Garden centre.

Why was she told that? Was there one closer to home perhaps?

biko

Discodog wrote: »

She got stopped, on the way back & told that she shouldn't of gone to the Garden centre.

She shouldn't have, no.
Shopping for non-food items isn't essential.

It's a mess though

Hardware stores and garden centres can legally reopen under new laws signed by Health Minister Simon Harris - but the Government wants them to remain closed for the Easter weekend anyway.

There was confusion yesterday over the new batch of Covid-19 restrictions after hardware shops were deemed "essential retail outlets" alongside newsagents and pharmacies.

Legal experts told the Herald that while gardai have been given sweeping powers to enforce the lockdown, they may be powerless to shut hardware and garden centres this weekend.

https://www.herald.ie/news/confusion-as-hardware-and-garden-stores-deemed-essential-39118025.html

rubadub

Argos are only selling certain items, gardening stuff is off the list.

I was checking out prices and noticed it. I am getting it from amazon germany now.

Can't buy a branch cutter, but I can buy a hair straightener -essential so they are...


https://www.argos.ie/static/ArgosPromo3/includeName/delivery-to-your-doorstep.htm&mvt=HP1_bottombanner

Discodog

The problem is that the government wrote their lists but the Act has different lists.

A gardener can work & needs to. As horticulture is an essential service they won't qualify for benefits.

GazzaL

Discodog wrote: »

So Garden Centres can legally open, they are on the essential list. However my neighbour was stopped on her way to one. She said that they were legally open & the Guard let her pass.

She got stopped, on the way back & told that she shouldn't of gone to the Garden centre.

The list is confusing, probably designed to be that way. Fair play to her for doing her bit to support the economy and make the Earth a little bit greener.

The lockdown nazis are having a great time telling people what they can't do, and they're probably celebrating the collapse of companies and the huge job losses.