Restriction questions - the Megathread

Driver1980

There is milions viruses among us , and you can;t help it, this virus is like another flue virus, only very sick people are dying and very old who were sick and normal flue could kill them too.

Let;s say someone had cancer, got corona and they put corona as something that killed him.

Beaches, lakes, ice cream sale thousand kids playing together, safer than going to visit my family from A to B. So how can we believe them hahaha.

foxy_j

Sorry posted this already in wrong thread.

So we were invited to a friend's for a BBQ this weekend. Bit surprised tbh and not sure that's wise at the moment. I know it's outdoors but I'll deffo need the loo while there and obviously we'd be using their cutlery, plates etc.

I should mention the person who's house it is is a nurse who was on a covid ward but is now moved back to the diabetes ward.

Thoughts

TaurenDruid

foxy_j wrote: »

Sorry posted this already in wrong thread.

So we were invited to a friend's for a BBQ this weekend. Bit surprised tbh and not sure that's wise at the moment. I know it's outdoors but I'll deffo need the loo while there and obviously we'd be using their cutlery, plates etc.

I should mention the person who's house it is is a nurse who was on a covid ward but is now moved back to the diabetes ward.

Thoughts

It's about two phases too soon? Meet in groups of no more than four, outdoors, for no more than two hours. That will not be happening at a bbq. That's how the curve stops flattening and starts heading upwards again.

We've done the visiting-the-in-laws-garden-for-two-hours thing, gently declined the offers of beer and wine, and the offer to move inside when it started getting cooler, and it's ****. But it's a hell of a lot better than nothing.

But I'd much rather have phase 2, 3, 4, etc., arrive on time with no rollbacks...

callmehal

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Work with me here... I addressed that.

If no vaccine, then isolate for 14 days. If no covid, then visit.

Alternatively, get a covid test, wait 2 or 3 days for the result. If no covid, then visit.

You need to think things through before you post. She lives in Britain, to get to Ireland, she'll have to fly. Getting a flight and travelling to Ireland is too risky isn't it? Isolating for 14 days is useless then as is getting a test.

callmehal

TaurenDruid wrote: »

It's about two phases too soon? Meet in groups of no more than four, outdoors, for no more than two hours. That will not be happening at a bbq. That's how the curve stops flattening and starts heading upwards again.

We've done the visiting-the-in-laws-garden-for-two-hours thing, gently declined the offers of beer and wine, and the offer to move inside when it started getting cooler, and it's ****. But it's a hell of a lot better than nothing.

But I'd much rather have phase 2, 3, 4, etc., arrive on time with no rollbacks...

And magically covid disappears after phase 4. :pac:

hmmm

foxy_j wrote: »

Sorry posted this already in wrong thread.

So we were invited to a friend's for a BBQ this weekend. Bit surprised tbh and not sure that's wise at the moment. I know it's outdoors but I'll deffo need the loo while there and obviously we'd be using their cutlery, plates etc.

I should mention the person who's house it is is a nurse who was on a covid ward but is now moved back to the diabetes ward.

Thoughts

I suppose two things:

1. Grilled meats are a diabetes risk
2. If we let things become a free-for-all, with everyone ignoring requests from public health, we are all potentially at risk both now and in the future. I think we all have to decide whether we're going to be part of a community, or just act as individuals.

hmmm

hmmm wrote: »

I suppose two things:

1. Grilled meats are a diabetes risk
2. If we let things become a free-for-all, with everyone ignoring requests from public health, we are all potentially at risk both now and in the future. I think we all have to decide whether we're going to be part of a community, or just act as individuals.

Everything is a diabetes risk unless you live a completely miserable existence.

TaurenDruid

callmehal wrote: »

You need to think things through before you post. She lives in Britain, to get to Ireland, she'll have to fly. Getting a flight and travelling to Ireland is too risky isn't it?

Yes. Which is exactly what I said in my original post.

Isolating for 14 days is useless then as is getting a test.

What? Isolating for 14 days or getting a test is proof - as much as one can get - that the person doesn't have covid and is safe to visit their parents.

TaurenDruid

callmehal wrote: »

And magically covid disappears after phase 4. :pac:

Ah, 18 posts... why did I bother responding to a troll. /facepalm

callmehal

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Yes. Which is exactly what I said in my original post.



What? Isolating for 14 days or getting a test is proof - as much as one can get - that the person doesn't have covid and is safe to visit their parents.

So she'll never be able to visit her mam as it's too risky to fly to Ireland?

But she'll have to fly to Ireland after getting the test and isolating, you say she shouldn't fly so what's the point in isolating and getting a test done? She'll just have to remain in Britain until a vaccine is created in 1 year, 2 years, 10 years.

callmehal

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Ah, 18 posts... why did I bother responding to a troll. /facepalm

There's the white flag raised! Your argument has been destroyed.

TaurenDruid

callmehal wrote: »

So she'll never be able to visit her mam as it's too risky to fly to Ireland?

But she'll have to fly to Ireland after getting the test and isolating, you say she shouldn't fly so what's the point in isolating and getting a test done? She'll just have to remain in Britain until a vaccine is created in 1 year, 2 years, 10 years.

Obvious troll is obvious.

But just in case, once more for the slow ones at the back. In words of no more than 3 syllables (because "isolate" has three).

* Fly to Ireland. Then:
a) Isolate for 14 days. If test is clear, visit parents. Or
b) Get test. Isolate for 2 or 3 days. If test is clear, visit parents.


All as per original post.

This is the bit where you now wilfully misinterpret what I've written, once again. Have fun.

callmehal

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Obvious troll is obvious.

But just in case, once more for the slow ones at the back. In words of no more than 3 syllables (because "isolate" has three).

* Fly to Ireland. Then:
a) Isolate for 14 days. If test is clear, visit parents. Or
b) Get test. Isolate for 2 or 3 days. If test is clear, visit parents.


All as per original post.

This is the bit where you now wilfully misinterpret what I've written, once again. Have fun.

And where's she going to isolate? You got any spare houses for her? You really haven't thought this through!

callmehal

callmehal wrote: »

And where's she going to isolate? You got any spare houses for her? You really haven't thought this through!

Then you’re on to option (c) - No visit.

Neamhshuntasach

Was out today loading a skip for a sick family member. Driving there and back and it looked like any bank holiday weekend last year. Crowds out all over the shop and not much distance between them. Monday in 3 weeks time will be a good test. If no huge spike, that should put the bed any concerns about it being out in the community or it spreading much outside. And if there's no spike or rise in cases, coupled with similar in other countries. They need to move the phases forward.

Neamhshuntasach

Neamhshuntasach wrote: »

Was out today loading a skip for a sick family member. Driving there and back and it looked like any bank holiday weekend last year. Crowds out all over the shop and not much distance between them. Monday in 3 weeks time will be a good test. If no huge spike, that should put the bed any concerns about it being out in the community or it spreading much outside. And if there's no spike or rise in cases, coupled with similar in other countries. They need to move the phases forward.

So long as people are prepared for them to move back if their selfishness causes a big spike. Works both roads.

callmehal

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

Then you’re on to option (c) - No visit.

No visit forever!

callmehal

callmehal wrote: »

No visit forever!

True. Unless they do (a) or (b).

TaurenDruid

callmehal wrote: »

And where's she going to isolate? You got any spare houses for her? You really haven't thought this through!

Ffs.

Yeah, you know what, you're right. No visits, forever. She will never see her parents again. There is absolutely no way whatsoever to come to Ireland in one of the later phases, some weeks away, and stay somewhere for between 2/3 days and 14 days, because there are no rental properties, AirBnB exploded, and the government saying hotels can reopen from July 20th was a lie spread by 5G.

If you've nothing useful to contribute, would you ever just jog on...

callmehal

ReginaldSmythV wrote: »

True. Unless they do (a) or (b).

Not true! The risk is still there. Unless there's some magic after the last stage of restrictions.

callmehal

TaurenDruid wrote: »

Ffs.

Yeah, you know what, you're right. No visits, forever. She will never see her parents again. There is absolutely no way whatsoever to come to Ireland in one of the later phases, some weeks away, and stay somewhere for between 2/3 days and 14 days, because there are no rental properties, AirBnB exploded, and the government saying hotels can reopen from July 20th was a lie spread by 5G.

If you've nothing useful to contribute, would you ever just jog on...

All those places are too risky. She can never visit her parents until a vaccine is created. I'm just going by your logic. You still haven't explained how the virus will just up and go in a few weeks.

GinSoaked

callmehal wrote: »

All those places are too risky. She can never visit her parents until a vaccine is created. I'm just going by your logic. You still haven't explained how the virus will just up and go in a few weeks.

Thats the sort of logic that people who have totally ignored the restrictions have used.

Congratulations for being the first person on my ignore list.

callmehal

GinSoaked wrote: »

Thats the sort of logic that people who have totally ignored the restrictions have used.

Congratulations for being the first person on my ignore list.

People who've been ignoring the restrictions think rental properties, AirBnB's and hotels are too risky?

You make a poor point, very poor.

Gael23

callmehal wrote: »

All those places are too risky. She can never visit her parents until a vaccine is created. I'm just going by your logic. You still haven't explained how the virus will just up and go in a few weeks.

We all know that’s never going to happen

callmehal

Gael23 wrote: »

We all know that’s never going to happen

That she'll never visit her parents? Of course. But if she visits now, next month or at any stage before a vaccine, what difference does it make? There will always be risks.

TaurenDruid

callmehal wrote: »

That she'll never visit her parents? Of course. But if she visits now, next month or at any stage before a vaccine, what difference does it make? There will always be risks.

And you can hugely mitigate the risks, by following the advice and guidelines of experts, and waiting until the risk of community infection has dropped.

But you know all this.

Why are you putting yourself to the fullest possible use in this thread HAL? Is trolling this thread all you think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do?

callmehal

callmehal wrote: »

Not true! The risk is still there. Unless there's some magic after the last stage of restrictions.

At least she as option (d) now - pretend she’s going to a protest.

callmehal

TaurenDruid wrote: »

And you can hugely mitigate the risks, by following the advice and guidelines of experts, and waiting until the risk of community infection has dropped.

But you know all this.

Why are you putting yourself to the fullest possible use in this thread HAL? Is trolling this thread all you think that any conscious entity can ever hope to do?

You missed a post:

callmehal wrote: »

All those places are too risky. She can never visit her parents until a vaccine is created. I'm just going by your logic. You still haven't explained how the virus will just up and go in a few weeks.

TaurenDruid

I didn't miss a post.

Bye, HAL.

/ignore

callmehal

TaurenDruid wrote: »

I didn't miss a post.

Bye, HAL.

/ignore

Running away with your tail between you legs. I already called it:

callmehal wrote: »

There's the white flag raised! Your argument has been destroyed.