In your opinion, what does the future of Travel look like?

snotboogie

completedit wrote: »

Because Amsterdam is unlivable and this will show them that they can live without yankee dollars and Chinese yen.

They just adopted a very interesting “doughnut” economic model for the city so they seem to be moving towards a a more economically sustainable, maybe even zero growth model.

The Chinese unit of currency is the Yuan (the currency is called the renminbi) , the Yen is Japanese

LiquidZeb

Ich liebe Berlin wrote: »

There's a huge amount of contempt for people who like to travel on this thread. I don't smoke or drink or play sports, travel is my passion. I'm glad I don't know anybody anti travel in real life.

Yeah you'll find out a lot of people here are all piss and vinegar about travel. Either they can't afford it or they've never left the boreen themselves and resent anyone who does. I wonder if half the doom and gloom posts are hypothesizing or just plain old wishful thinking on their part

PhilOssophy

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Yeah you'll find out a lot of people here are all piss and vinegar about travel. Either they can't afford it or they've never left the boreen themselves and resent anyone who does. I wonder if half the doom and gloom posts are hypothesizing or just plain old wishful thinking on their part

Maybe so. I have travelled more than I feel I should have. In hindsight, plenty of it was unnecessary, but I cant change the past. I now realise the damage I have contributed to and wonder if I was back would I do the same? Maybe, but probably not.

But there is no denying there is plenty of hypocrisy on the matter, and the Green party are as bad as anyone.

I would also doubt there's that many people who can't afford a Ryanair flight.....given the clientele on your typical Ryanair flight, I sincerely doubt it!

suicide_circus

frivolous weekends away to Euopean cities is a big part of popular EU interconnectedness

LiquidZeb

PhilOssophy wrote: »

Maybe so. I have travelled more than I feel I should have. In hindsight, plenty of it was unnecessary, but I cant change the past. I now realise the damage I have contributed to and wonder if I was back would I do the same? Maybe, but probably not.

But there is no denying there is plenty of hypocrisy on the matter, and the Green party are as bad as anyone.

I would also doubt there's that many people who can't afford a Ryanair flight.....given the clientele on your typical Ryanair flight, I sincerely doubt it!

That dig about Ryanairs clientele comes across as awfully snobbish. I suppose a refined gentleman such as yourself is fit for nothing but Emirates first class.

PhilOssophy

LiquidZeb wrote: »

That dig about Ryanairs clientele comes across as awfully snobbish. I suppose a refined gentleman such as yourself is fit for nothing but Emirates first class.

By no means, I routinely fly them. It was actually meant as a response to the post above that people who don't fly can't afford it.....so maybe read what I was responding to before replying.

ShineOn7

ZX7R wrote: »

Some airlines are thinking of introducing a waiver for covid-19.
Leaving it up to the customer if they wish to fly

A "waiver for Covid"? Eh?

Have you a link?

Thanks

ZX7R

ShineOn7 wrote: »

A "waiver for Covid"? Eh?

Have you a link?

Thanks

CNN news feed from a couple of days ago

Dr. Bre

LiquidZeb wrote: »

That dig about Ryanairs clientele comes across as awfully snobbish. I suppose a refined gentleman such as yourself is fit for nothing but Emirates first class.

I’m more of a Qatar airways man ..

completedit

suicide_circus wrote: »

frivolous weekends away to Euopean cities is a big part of popular EU interconnectedness

Yeah, I really think people tend to forget this. Maybe being an English speaking island it's lost on us a little bit.

completedit

If anyone saw the blueprint laid forward by a team of Dutch economists that is gaining traction, sustainable tourism has been mentioned as a main point so my theory a few pages back has merit.

The days of mass tourism could well be over.

otnomart

in today's news:
Air France will distribute face masks to passengers in flights where load factor is 50% or higher
Source:

https://www.bfmtv.com/economie/air-france-va-distribuer-des-masques-aux-passagers-sur-les-vols-les-plus-empruntes-1896526.html

PhilOssophy

completedit wrote: »

If anyone saw the blueprint laid forward by a team of Dutch economists that is gaining traction, sustainable tourism has been mentioned as a main point so my theory a few pages back has merit.

The days of mass tourism could well be over.

When did economists decide anything? All they are is a bunch of hurlers on the ditch.

ShineOn7

PhilOssophy wrote: »

All they are is a bunch of hurlers on the ditch.

Can you translate please? I don't speak Culchie ;-)

completedit

completedit wrote: »

The days of mass tourism could well be over.

And just when a pilgrimage to Lourdes would be just the ticket right now :P

PhilOssophy

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Can you translate please? I don't speak Culchie ;-)

Well how did you know where it is from then?

hmmm

completedit wrote: »

If anyone saw the blueprint laid forward by a team of Dutch economists that is gaining traction, sustainable tourism has been mentioned as a main point so my theory a few pages back has merit.

The days of mass tourism could well be over.

Every time we have a crisis, someone on the left dreams that the prolateriat has finally "woken up".

They're going to be disappointed - when this is eventually over, we're all going to Tenerife.

Rufeo

Probably be using a Transporter.

TomSweeney

I was supposed to be going to North Norway in July, I am planning to move it to July 2021, but after going through this gloomy thread, 2022 might be a better option ? thoughts ?

I am thinking if carriers are flying and social distancing is observed on the plane and airports ... this is my only danger point, once we are up there is pretty remote and won't be socialising...

Hubertj

TomSweeney wrote: »

I was supposed to be going to North Norway in July, I am planning to move it to July 2021, but after going through this gloomy thread, 2022 might be a better option ? thoughts ?

I am thinking if carriers are flying and social distancing is observed on the plane and airports ... this is my only danger point, once we are up there is pretty remote and won't be socialising...

This is the last place to come to for advice on travel. Serious lack of intelligence on both sides of the argument.

TomSweeney

Hubertj wrote: »

This is the last place to come to for advice on travel. Serious lack of intelligence on both sides of the argument.

I guess no one knows, well it won't be the end of the world if I have to push it to 2022.


I was telling my son, thinking he'd be really dissapointed, he just said, Dad so what there's bigger things to worry about, amazed how kids are taking all this so well.

Muahahaha

Tom Id say you will be grand for July 2021 though I wouldnt go booking flights/hotels until at least early next year when things will be a lot clearer. Are you heading up to Svabard Island? Have always been meaning to head there in Norway, I believe you can see polar bears in the wild during winter there as well as the northern lights, summer there has the 24 hour sunshine. Bloody expensive to get to though, its way up there in the Arctic Circle

completedit wrote: »

If anyone saw the blueprint laid forward by a team of Dutch economists that is gaining traction, sustainable tourism has been mentioned as a main point so my theory a few pages back has merit.

The days of mass tourism could well be over.

Im not seeing that happening, things will get back to normal -eventually. After 9/11 lots of Americans said they would never fly again, 12 months later the skies were as busy as ever.

completedit

True, I've been sort of going down a rabbit hole the last few weeks of CV implications and thinking major changes are afoot. There definitely is but it won't be in the way we imagine.

PhilOssophy

We were told in 08/09 that the country would be a changed place once we recovered from the crash.....did anything change? I appreciate it is slightly off-topic, but my point here is people forget and revert back to what they know once they can.

Fiatx19

I think that we will have to live with the corona virus.

The lockdown is about preventing a rush on the hospitals, so that we don't end up like Italy.

They literally had to triage patients to 'let them die' because the hospitals were so overrun.

Unfortunately life will have to go back to normal. People will continue to die from Covid-19 but the hospitals will be at least able to offer them assistance.

The mental and economic fallout from the lockdown also has to be considered. It could actually be years before there's an effective vaccine.

I think international travel will return in the summer...

wakka12

LiquidZeb wrote: »

Yeah you'll find out a lot of people here are all piss and vinegar about travel. Either they can't afford it or they've never left the boreen themselves and resent anyone who does. I wonder if half the doom and gloom posts are hypothesizing or just plain old wishful thinking on their part

Or, third option..you recognise the huge environmental damage that it causes and the destruction of historic and natural sites by mass tourism

Nearly everyone in Ireland can afford a holiday to somewhere in Europe. Theres nothing wrong with appreciating the boreens, Ireland has many beautiful natural sites, hopefully after this people around the(western) world begin to appreciate local travel and tourism and enjoy assets on their doorstep.

ShineOn7

wakka12 wrote: »

Or, third option..you recognise the huge environmental damage that it causes

Nope

No it doesn't. This has been debunked countless times

Stateofyou

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Nope

No it doesn't. This has been debunked countless times

That comment by you needs debunking. wakka is right. There are many popular tourist spots that have been closed or have announced they will/may close in the future due to damage caused by mass tourism. A simple google search will bring up loads of news reports about it.

ShineOn7

Stateofyou wrote: »

That comment by you needs debunking. wakka is right. There are many popular tourist spots that have been closed or have announced they will/may close in the future due to damage caused by mass tourism. A simple google search will bring up loads of news reports about it.

I presumed it referred to the much debunked "Commercial flights are responsible for 108% of the pollution!1!" type posts

I think the Greta fans need to start their own thread and all virtually high five each other there. This thread is for Travel enthusiasts who can't wait to wander again

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

ShineOn7 wrote: »

Nope

No it doesn't. This has been debunked countless times

If that’s the case, why have some tourist spots started restricting visitor numbers or closing altogether even?