Company is staying open to make money under the guise of essential

Iv been listening to stories of empty A&E departments online since all this started.

Maybe they are being smart filling the warehouse. I expect an absolute tsunami of people with delayed treatments and worsening conditions in the next few months.

c.p.w.g.w

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

Iv been listening to stories of empty A&E departments online since all this started.

Maybe they are being smart filling the warehouse. I expect an absolute tsunami of people with delayed treatments and worsening conditions in the next few months.

Yeah they are being smart...but how is that essential?

almostover

c.p.w.g.w wrote: »

Came across a very interesting letter from a medical device company based in Clare.

This company produce orthopaedic implants, but are claiming they are essential to the local & international healthcare system. The implants they produce are used in elective procedures.

Absolutely ridiculous situation, bringing people from all over Clare, Limerick, Tipperary & Kerry to the factory to produce a product that is only going to fill a warehouse until the pandemic is over.

Also one of their competitors has pretty much closed due to Covid19 so looks even worse, pure profiteering

Don't be so sure about the competitors, some projects are continuing that are in no way necessary. Small numbers on site but associated products are new product ideas for elective surgeries.

A friend of mine, he's about 70 I think, just had his knee done. His life was a misery for at least the last year with it.

If you want to keep people fit and healthy we need to keep these things going.

Lonesomerhodes

Whitman45 wrote: »

Any one know of company’s/factories staying open that should have closed Under the guise of essential just in order to make money?

My company and know of several contractor companies open. All far from essential.

They figure they can still service buildings better no one there ironically its better doing site and maintenance work. So required maintenace rewiring etc can all be done.

Its work that can wait but greedy contractor managers want it done now as they charge a premium and many very large offices agree. No downtime or disturbance to staff at all. All they need is site access.

Lonesomerhodes

Whitman45 wrote: »

Any one know of company’s/factories staying open that should have closed Under the guise of essential just in order to make money?

My company and know of several contractor companies open. All far from essential.

They figure they can still service buildings better no one there ironically its better doing site and maintenance work. So required maintenace rewiring etc can all be done.

Its work that can wait but greedy contractor managers want it done now as they charge a premium and many very large offices agree. No downtime or disturbance to staff at all. All they need is site access.

almostover

Topgear on Dave wrote: »

A friend of mine, he's about 70 I think, just had his knee done. His life was a misery for at least the last year with it.

If you want to keep people fit and healthy we need to keep these things going.

My own father had his done about 2 weeks before the restrictions luckily for him. But I doubt anyone would be considered for a knee or hip replacement now. Theatres will only be used for critical surgeries now, critical meaning potential for loss of life or organ function if the operation doesn't happen. Worldwide demand for Orthopaedic implants has dried up. If a manufacturer is in back order they shouldn't exploit their workforce and their safety to recover a supply situation of their own doing. People will still get the required surgeries once they are allowed again but a competitor who has product ready to ho will be preferred. It critical alright, critical to business, not to potential patients.

YFlyer

The take away next door to the Chinese off of the Groody road.

jonski

jonski wrote: »

You came across as a logical and responsible commentator ..........




until you ...... didn't .

Ah, there has to be room for tomfoolery

jonski

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

Ah, there has to be room for tomfoolery

My fault then, I take it all back

It's just that I have seen other European countries deem them essential .

jonski

jonski wrote: »

My fault then, I take it all back

It's just that I have seen other European countries deem them essential .

You could close food shops before estancas in Spain and Greece

Pauliedragon

agfasfos wrote: »

What about e-cigarette shops, people who have packed in smoking are vaping. If these shops are closed it could push them back to the fags, off licences are still open.

The one near me is open.

agfasfos wrote: »

So close the off licences and let people drink lemonade.

Pointless. Supermarkets will never shut and they sell booze.

AlanOB

le_girl wrote: »

The Savoy seem to be doing some renovations while they're closed.

I don't know how that relates to "essential work" and I understand the timing as they're forced to close for the time being. But for someone living in the apartments next door it makes working from home a bit harder when the drills and hammers are going all morning.

I'd be fairly slow to criticise companies publicly, but this is unforgivable -- and, from what I can tell, there's still work of some description ongoing in there today. Amazing that they're getting away with it, really.

Then again, I've lived in the area for years and the Savoy have never exactly been prone to thinking of their surrounding environment. For a long, long time, for example, they used to have the alley at the back (loudly) power-washed in the dead of night; I know I complained several times and presumably I wasn't the only one.

A couple of summers ago, they also undertook renovations that proved very disruptive to nearby residents, too; drilling, sawing and hammering from very early in the morning on, including on Saturdays sometimes. Necessary I'm sure, but when their builder was choosing to do his sawing outside on a balcony, very close to my own apartment and those of a number of my neighbours, I wasn't exactly thrilled. To say the least.

I could also go into how they allow their Christmas party revelers to use the same balcony as a smoking area, a practice that apparently even attracts complaints from guests of the hotel on an annual basis, but who has the time?

The current work has been going on for weeks, by the way. But at least that's taken place during social hours. Continuing it under the current restrictions, however (if that is the case), is just disgusting. And they were relatively slow to close their doors to the public as well, if memory serves. Compare and contrast to the likes of Pharmacia, who closed voluntarily the day before the schools shut up shop. No comparison.

le_girl

AlanOB wrote: »

I'd be fairly slow to criticise companies publicly, but this is unforgivable -- and, from what I can tell, there's still work of some description ongoing in there today. Amazing that they're getting away with it, really.

Then again, I've lived in the area for years and the Savoy have never exactly been prone to thinking of their surrounding environment. For a long, long time, for example, they used to have the alley at the back (loudly) power-washed in the dead of night; I know I complained several times and presumably I wasn't the only one.

A couple of summers ago, they also undertook renovations that proved very disruptive to nearby residents, too; drilling, sawing and hammering from very early in the morning on, including on Saturdays sometimes. Necessary I'm sure, but when their builder was choosing to do his sawing outside on a balcony, very close to my own apartment and those of a number of my neighbours, I wasn't exactly thrilled. To say the least.

I could also go into how they allow their Christmas party revelers to use the same balcony as a smoking area, a practice that apparently even attracts complaints from guests of the hotel on an annual basis, but who has the time?

The current work has been going on for weeks, by the way. But at least that's taken place during social hours. Continuing it under the current restrictions, however (if that is the case), is just disgusting. And they were relatively slow to close their doors to the public as well, if memory serves. Compare and contrast to the likes of Pharmacia, who closed voluntarily the day before the schools shut up shop. No comparison.

That's really interesting because I've only lived here for a month so I thought this was a one off. I presumed they were taking the chance while they had no guests. From the sounds of it, I'm out of luck if I want to say anything about it as this is a pattern.

Maybe it's the way I'm facing but I just heard noises starting on Thursday, Friday and then it was another level yesterday. I mean, if I had to take a phone or video call for work it would be impossible with the drilling. I can't hear anything today but I hope it stays that way.

I get the timing from their perspective but to have a hundred and something people next door, many who have to work from home is not a good mix with that going on.

dobman88

dobman88 wrote: »

Only non essential work is stopped. Roads are fairly essential. Fair play to them doing it now to minimise disruption

Obviously no longer essential. They finished up Monday evening without finishing the job.
Not that my issue was with the job. Just the social distancing and safety of the workers and their families.