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AndrewJRenko wrote: »

No, it doesn't make sense. I did a good 20 km cycle this morning and didn't come into contact with any other person. How did my cycle increase risk of virus spread?

And if there is a risk arising from human contact, surely the 2km is increasing this risk by confining more people into smaller spaces?

If you want to reduce road collisions requiring assistance, then you should be stopping or dramatically reducing driving. Get people to walk to their local shops instead of driving. If this is a significant issue, then why wouldn't you focus on drivers, who soak up vastly more resources in the health system than motorists?

Mod: Okay - this is turning into a rhetoric now, and has gone wildly off-topic. Quit it now, please.

Fann Linn

8-10 wrote: »

There's a call for the legislation to be updated and I'd imagine they'll have to move to close the loophole.

It's ridiculous situation, on that I agree, but the way you're talking about it seems to suggest you think it's deliberately worded in that way.

I think it's clear that it was an error, and hopefully they do correct it soon.

I know it's not deliberate. But I just find it so hypocritical and ludicrous that such a set up exists. Likewise with people heading down to Wexford last bank holiday and being turned around, however if your name is Nevin, Mc Donagh or Sweeney and you're dragging a caravan, fire away, head off to the Curragh or if you're a shop worker in Debenhams and protesting about losing your job you're 'moved on' but a couple of dozen the same day can block up the Four Courts!

Tenzor07

Fann Linn wrote: »

I know it's not deliberate. But I just find it so hypocritical and ludicrous that such a set up exists. Likewise with people heading down to Wexford last bank holiday and being turned around, however if your name is Nevin, Mc Donagh or Sweeney and you're dragging a caravan, fire away, head off to the Curragh or if you're a shop worker in Debenhams and protesting about losing your job you're 'moved on' but a couple of dozen the same day can block up the Four Courts!

Would like to hear from any members of the Gardai as to how the law is being applied or not to those from the traveling community who seem to have free movement?

stephenjmcd

Operation Fanacht to kick back in tomorrow morning until after the bank holiday weekend

Tenzor07

Tenzor07 wrote: »

Would like to hear from any members of the Gardai as to how the law is being applied or not to those from the traveling community who seem to have free movement?

The travelling community are subject to the same laws as everyone else in the country.
Unfortunately there are still plenty of people who think that the restrictions shouldn't apply to them. From all communities.

It's a shame the Gardai have to be out at all enforcing these rules.

Discodog

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Operation Fanacht to kick back in tomorrow morning until after the bank holiday weekend

But promised to bigger & better.

rafatoni

Where did you see that folks? cheers

Just saw it on RTE

na1

Breezin wrote: »

This. The whole emphasis on stopping people travelling by road is inexplicable when we are next to bumping into each other in supermarkets and on the footpaths.

I think the main point for this is to avoid spreading the virus across the territory.
Although the "essential workers" do still travel a lot.

Discodog

na1 wrote: »

I think the main point for this is to avoid spreading the virus across the territory.
Although the "essential workers" do still travel a lot.

They have said holiday homes............again.

Eric Cartman

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Operation Fanacht to kick back in tomorrow morning until after the bank holiday weekend

People frantically ringing holiday homes they've booked to see if they can pop down tonight instead of Thursday afternoon as planned :pac:

tayto lover

Maybe it’s me but I get the impression from some posters that they’d actually like to see the virus cases increase.

pablo128

tayto lover wrote: »

Maybe it’s me but I get the impression from some posters that they’d actually like to see the virus cases increase.

The same halfwits looking for loopholes are the same ones that will cause the lockdown to be extended. And will be the ones to come on here and crib about it.

Discodog

tayto lover wrote: »

Maybe it’s me but I get the impression from some posters that they’d actually like to see the virus cases increase.

Whilst others would love to see economic ruin as long as they get their €350.

tayto lover

Discodog wrote: »

Whilst others would love to see economic ruin as long as they get their €350.

Life will always outweigh money.
You can’t take it with you.

mfceiling

Discodog wrote: »

Whilst others would love to see economic ruin as long as they get their €350.

The €350 payment will have to keep coming if the spread of the virus isn't contained. Too many clowns out and about or trying to look for loopholes that they can argue allows them to be where they want.
Stay at home and stop the spread.
The sooner we go this, the sooner we get back to work and the sooner we get the economy going again.
It's really that simple.

Discodog

mfceiling wrote: »

The €350 payment will have to keep coming if the spread of the virus isn't contained. Too many clowns out and about or trying to look for loopholes that they can argue allows them to be where they want.
Stay at home and stop the spread.
The sooner we go this, the sooner we get back to work and the sooner we get the economy going again.
It's really that simple.

It really isn't. Every euro of debt will have to be repaid & will result in cuts to health, welfare etc. They could end up killing more than Covid.

Already the Cancer Society are worried that people are going to die as a result of no breast, cervical, bowel checks.

Have you ever wondered why we don't just throw endless money at the World's problems ?

NH2013

mfceiling wrote: »

The €350 payment will have to keep coming if the spread of the virus isn't contained. Too many clowns out and about or trying to look for loopholes that they can argue allows them to be where they want.
Stay at home and stop the spread.
The sooner we go this, the sooner we get back to work and the sooner we get the economy going again.
It's really that simple.

Don't think we'll be able to keep up the €350 after the initial 2 week period, I'd speculate it'll be back to the standard dole of €206 a week, can't afford to keep it at €350 for the next 18 months.

€350 sickness payment may possibly continue though deter people from going to work sick.

mfceiling

Discodog wrote: »

It really isn't. Every euro of debt will have to be repaid & will result in cuts to health, welfare etc. They could end up killing more than Covid.

Already the Cancer Society are worried that people are going to die as a result of no breast, cervical, bowel checks.

Have you ever wondered why we don't just throw endless money at the World's problems ?

It really is simple. Stay at home and stop the spread.
If we don't then there's little chance of getting the economy going again.
Of course the debt will have to be paid back, but the sooner we get back working the less we will have to fork out on welfare payments.
Too many people ignoring the stay at home protocols which in turn will impact the speed we get on top of this.

I'd love to be back at work but I'm not going to ignore the advice that is being told to us constantly.

pjohnson

pablo128 wrote: »

The same halfwits looking for loopholes are the same ones that will cause the lockdown to be extended. And will be the ones to come on here and crib about it.

And its always someone else to blame (normally anyone on welfare)

Infini

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Operation Fanacht to kick back in tomorrow morning until after the bank holiday weekend

The return of "Operation: Go the feck home!".

That being said I really wish they could do something about the fecking lowlifes hanging round on public transport all day they're the ones likely to spead this crap yet they seem to be coming back out of the woodwork as well.

Discodog

mfceiling wrote: »

It really is simple. Stay at home and stop the spread.
If we don't then there's little chance of getting the economy going again.
Of course the debt will have to be paid back, but the sooner we get back working the less we will have to fork out on welfare payments.
Too many people ignoring the stay at home protocols which in turn will impact the speed we get on top of this.

I'd love to be back at work but I'm not going to ignore the advice that is being told to us constantly.

How will movement restrictions reduce the Nursing Home deaths ?

BMurr

Discodog wrote: »

How will movement restrictions reduce the Nursing Home deaths ?

Why don't you try to figure it out, enough info about this virus around now. Nursing homes don't exist on another planet. There will be protocols to minimise risk but you can never guarantee 100% risk elimination when human beings are concerned.

punisher5112

Discodog wrote: »

How will movement restrictions reduce the Nursing Home deaths ?

Because those working in them imo in a lot of cases aren't adhering to the rules set out.....

See many getting buses etc and don't practice social distance or give any space to others....

Discodog

punisher5112 wrote: »

Because those working in them imo in a lot of cases aren't adhering to the rules set out.....

See many getting buses etc and don't practice social distance or give any space to others....

So it's about the people working in them & not 99% of the population. Therefore the lock down won't effect the number of deaths.

BMurr

Discodog wrote: »

So it's about the people working in them & not 99% of the population. Therefore the lock down won't effect the number of deaths.

Lockdown reduces amount of virus circulating in community. Nursing home workers live in the community....... What do you think the logical outcome will be for nursing home residents if there is a higher or lower level of virus circulating in the community?

Discodog

BMurr wrote: »

Lockdown reduces amount of virus circulating in community. Nursing home workers live in the community....... What do you think the logical outcome will be for nursing home residents if there is a higher or lower level of virus circulating in the community?

The levels of community transmission are very low according to the CMO.

BMurr

Discodog wrote: »

The levels of community transmission are very low according to the CMO.

The dead, a certain amount of those will have contracted the virus from someone in the community.

Pitch n Putt

Lord almighty. It was an absolute disaster this evening on the Naas road.
3 mile tail back 30 minutes delay to get through the check point.
3 lanes into one 7/8 guards in a row in one single lane.

Ridiculous carry on.Its a pointless expensive exercise. Tell them what they want to hear and on u go.

Even the guards think it’s a joke. They must be sick of it also.

kenmc

Pitch n Putt wrote: »

Lord almighty. It was an absolute disaster this evening on the Naas road.
3 mile tail back 30 minutes delay to get through the check point.
3 lanes into one 7/8 guards in a row in one single lane.

Ridiculous carry on.Its a pointless expensive exercise. Tell them what they want to hear and on u go.

Even the guards think it’s a joke. They must be sick of it also.

Sounds effective so, the more people that hear stories of tailbacks like that, the more will go "ah fcuk it, not worth going to sit in traffic" and will stay home.

GazzaL

kenmc wrote: »

Sounds effective so, the more people that hear stories of tailbacks like that, the more will go "ah fcuk it, not worth going to sit in traffic" and will stay home.

30 mins of sitting in traffic vs 24 hours sitting at home, I'd say a lot of people would choose the traffic tbh