CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

Away With The Fairies

fin12 wrote: »

https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/china-finds-new-coronavirus-strain-21793918

I’m sorry but how the f*ck is this virus natural.

Jesus Christ and their markets are still carrying on.

domrush

Osborne wrote: »

Why aren't the journos pushing for a straight answer on ICU numbers?

Maybe I'm being dense, but I still don't know if the figures given are numbers from the beginning or currently.

You are being dense to be honest. It’s been clarified multiple times

branie2

RiP to the 14 people who have died

gabeeg

froog wrote: »

solid numbers. hope Big T gets back on the horse soon and we can put this thing to bed.

I hope Holohan makes a full recovery so he's one day able to face an inquiry

Osborne

domrush wrote: »

You are being dense to be honest. It’s been clarified multiple times

And the answer is?

Gretas Gonna Get Ya!

ceadaoin. wrote: »

Why is it likely? The US has more ICU beds per person, more ventilators (and the ability to make more) and despite what people who dont live here think, those without insurance WILL be treated.

Each state is pretty much like it's own country and does not need trump to take action.

I dont like Trump either, but some on here are almost wishing that america goes to **** just to prove a point that he is a dick.

Many people taking the same attitude with the UK too.

They can't see the irony of thinking Trump/BoJo are horrible people, yet they are wishing for large death totals in these countries so they can be somehow proven correct in their assertions... quite perverse really! :rolleyes:

domrush

Osborne wrote: »

And the answer is?

It’s the number of people admitted since the start . It is not the current number of people in ICU

TheValeyard

Shn99 wrote: »

Education minister still determined to see state exams for students go ahead as normal
https://www.newstalk.com/news/mchugh-state-exams-planned-993123?utm_medium=Social&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1585757798

He has to say that. If he said exams may not go ahead, students would just not do a tap and not bother continuing lessons.

Although tbh, I definitely do not see the JC going ahead, but the LC could go ahead in a much more staggered and spaced approach. With no JC students doing exams, their is a lot more spacing, room, but still left with the problem of the SEC staffing centres, social distancing, etc.

Peruvian Flake

Vast majority of the 126 are still In ICU

CitizenFloor

THANK YOU GEORGE!

AlmightyCushion

Osborne wrote: »

Why aren't the journos pushing for a straight answer on ICU numbers?

Maybe I'm being dense, but I still don't know if the figures given are numbers from the beginning or currently.

Since the beginning. This has been clarified already multiple times.

froog

i'd say the angelus is getting record viewing numbers recently.

is_that_so

Osborne wrote: »

And the answer is?

Admitted but that many if not all are still there as people seem to spend a long time in ICU internationally.

Logan Roy

Peruvian Flake wrote: »

Vast majority of the 126 are still In ICU

Source?

fritzelly

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Since the beginning. This has been clarified already multiple times.

No it hasn't, HSE and HSPC were saying originally it was the total for the day - so they have been changing the definition and one saying one thing, the other saying another

Away With The Fairies

Marsden35 wrote: »

We're passed a million already, given that China and Iran have lied about their figures. China is easily 10 times higher in cases and deaths. As is Iran. Some estimate Iran is at least 20 times worse than official figures.

I reckon China wanted this, send of their people to infect others around the world.

domrush

is_that_so wrote: »

Admitted but that many if not all are still there as people seem to spend a long time in ICU internationally.

That was not said, and as morbid as it sounds, deaths will reduce the number in ICU.

An HIQA report today said the median time was 7 days in ICU

fin12

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Jesus Christ and their markets are still carrying on.

I literally can’t read anymore about this f*cked up virus. Everyday it’s something worse.

tom1ie

AlmightyCushion wrote: »

Since the beginning. This has been clarified already multiple times.

Clarify again please I’m only getting in on this conversation now and can’t be arsed going back over the thread.
126- deaths?
Still at 126 as stays in icu are long or what?

snowgal

Logan Roy wrote: »

Source?

The Doctor literally just said it on the briefing 2 minutes ago!

Peruvian Flake

Logan Roy wrote: »

Source?

RTE news now, it was said in the briefing.

An Ciarraioch

tom1ie wrote: »

Clarify again please I’m only getting in on this conversation now and can’t be arsed going back over the thread.
126- deaths?
Still at 126 as stays in icu are long or what?

As well as deaths, some cases will have recovered and been sent home.

Away With The Fairies

fin12 wrote: »

I literally can’t read anymore about this f*cked up virus. Everyday it’s something worse.

It's so hard to tune out of this since it's so close to us.

growleaves

He is a contrarian who's views are a direct contradiction to the majority scientific opinion on this pandemic.

Science doesn't work by taking a show of hands.

(Although where has it has been established that a majority of scientists share the opinion of Ferguson, Fauci etc.? That is not at all clear.)

Here is the opinion of a Professor of Molecular Pharmacology at the Université Pierre et Marie Curie in Paris.

There is no evidence to show that the 2019 coronavirus is more lethal than respiratory adenoviruses, influenza viruses, coronaviruses from previous years, or rhinoviruses responsible for the common cold.

BrianD3

Blanco100 wrote: »

This is positive news then. No member of the public will be any the wiser as to how many are in ICU at any given time so.

126 cases in ICU with 80+ deaths, can we read between lines then that ICU numbers are not over the 100 mark?

At least some of those who died never made it into the ICU. Or the hospital. One of those who died recently was in a nursing home, she was refused admission to the hospital and was sent back to the nursing home, basically to die. Which she did.

The conspiracy theorist in me might say that inflating the ICU numbers using a metric which can never reduce could be used as a justification for actions such as turning people away from hospital.

poppers

tom1ie wrote: »

Clarify again please I’m only getting in on this conversation now and can’t be arsed going back over the thread.
126- deaths?
Still at 126 as stays in icu are long or what?

just been answered in the press conference.

its the total number admitted but as per normal icu stays are for a long time so it likley most of the 126 are still there

froog

christ imagine if louise o reilly was at the helm for this?

is_that_so

domrush wrote: »

That was not said, and as morbid as it sounds, deaths will reduce the number in ICU.

An HIQA report today said the median time was 7 days in ICU

Yeah, deaths will adjust things. Either way they seem to be waiting but calm about the ICU situation.

bekker

is_that_so wrote: »

https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-italy-russia-military-convoy-supplies-useless-pr-stunt-2020-3

For ****s sake, Business Insider a German version of the Mail, Axel Springer AG site.

Headline...
Italy said it was useless and accused them of a PR stunt.

content
...
The footage of the convoy was widely shared on social media, but Italian officials speaking anonymously to La Stampa said as much as 80% of the delivered material was useless, and that the operation appears to be a public-relations stunt with little practical benefit to the country's healthcare system.
...

La Stampa a headline today is about NATO COVID-19 supplies on April 1st., reading down the supplies are from Turkey!

There are forums dedicated to geopolitical propaganda.

tom1ie

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

As well as deaths, some cases will have recovered and been sent home.

So why do they say there’s 126 in icu when the cumulative number is 126 not the real time number.
It’s real time number that matters when your looking at resources available surely?

domrush

is_that_so wrote: »

Yeah, deaths will adjust things. Either way they seem to be waiting but calm about the ICU situation.

Agreed, I wish people in this thread were the same!

hmmm

fin12 wrote: »

I literally can’t read anymore about this f*cked up virus. Everyday it’s something worse.

Not really. From the rest of the article (his elderly wife also had the virus, but with mild symptoms).

"The researchers said that this information could point towards a new mild sub-type of COVID-19 which while not as transmissible could be harder to eliminate."

Interestingly there was also a mutation in Singapore earlier in the outbreak that researchers suspected made it milder, but easier to spread. Because humans are removing the most critically ill from circulation (and into hospitals), and not really finding asymptomatic cases, we're actually encouraging a milder and less obvious form of the disease to emerge - fingers crossed.

mean gene

fin12 wrote: »

I literally can’t read anymore about this f*cked up virus. Everyday it’s something worse.

Log off do yourself a favour

Amirani

spookwoman wrote: »

deaths are 36 hours in arrears

No they're not.

spookwoman

Amirani wrote: »

No they're not.

Thats what was said in the briefing

ITman88

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

Eh he`s the ****ing President of the USA. Millions of American people take everything he says, no matter how full of lies or off the wall it may be, as gospel.

Here, in Ireland, we worry about Leo.

Millions of Americans are governed by their own state.

munsterlegend

spookwoman wrote: »

Thats what was said in the briefing

What time are they up to?

Away With The Fairies

All these prayers never known to fail... Well all these prayers are failing every single day with this.

Dear Covid-19, For the love of God, just fcuk right off.

snowgal

My take on this is that there are probably still roughly 126 maybe 110 or so in ICU at this very point. They have said now for sure this is the figure from the beginning. Remember the beginning is not at all long ago, so by the time people got to the point of needing ICU was probably over the past 2 weeks. So MOST of the cases are still in ICU as its only 10-14 days. I also take from it that many of those in Nursing homes who have died were NOT admitted to ICU, otherwise those numbers would be gone down by now.

Ace2007

fin12 wrote: »

I literally can’t read anymore about this f*cked up virus. Everyday it’s something worse.

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It's so hard to tune out of this since it's so close to us.

Turn off boards, don't listen to the news, if your at home - watch films, learn something new - don't use your phone.

josip

Regardless of what the ICU numbers actually represent, that trend (blue line) is closely following the least worst case prediction (green) from a few days ago.

tom1ie

I may have missed this but why do we get the cumulative icu bed figures and not the real time figures?

is_that_so

bekker wrote: »

For ****s sake, Business Insider a German version of the Mail, Axel Springer AG site.
(

Let's ease off on the messenger shooting thank you. Someone asked for a source, I got them one and now WE ALL KNOW it's probably not a good source.

RobertKK

Germany testing 500,000 a week.

chasm

New Home wrote: »

I got the tablets (I think I still have them somewhere, 4 or 5 of them in a cut-up blister with the seal half damaged), I never got my tree (who can I ring about that?), but I did get my Millennium Candle. Did you get that, at least?

No, i never got that either, i was living in a house that was split in to apartments and flats at that time so another tenant must have got it lol
All joking aside, and to keep with the topic of the thread, i would have thought the leaflets would have gone nationwide around the same time?

Number of cases in ICU in the Lombardy region of Italy has actually declined.

https://twitter.com/dfcapodanno/status/1245028535405817858?s=21

otnomart

Naggdefy wrote: »

I think the south of Italy must be reporting more? Don't have figures.

You can check all Regions, including those in the South (Calabria for example) here:
https://lab24.ilsole24ore.com/coronavirus/#box_14

ITman88

Gretas Gonna Get Ya! wrote: »

Many people taking the same attitude with the UK too.

They can't see the irony of thinking Trump/BoJo are horrible people, yet they are wishing for large death totals in these countries so they can be somehow proven correct in their assertions... quite perverse really! :rolleyes:

This is exactly why.

If the death toll is high expect some will relish in saying I told you so

mloc123

RobertKK wrote: »

Germany testing 500,000 a week.

Interestingly my German work colleague was waiting a week to be tested and a few days after that for results.

smelly sock

212 is a good drop to be honest. 14 dead is a worry again though.

Hopefully we can steadily decline for next 9 days and lockdown will be relaxed.