CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

spookwoman

fritzelly wrote: »

In Rathmines just there for some shopping - some fella walking up the street shouting at the top of his voice how 5G was going to be the ruin of us all (and other related ramblings of pyschotic nature)
They're not just on Twitter

One is waterford yesterday saying the hand sanitizer was hand poison

Just Saying

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Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

It was stated that the median age is 82 not 92.

I was referring to the median age of todays deaths which was 92.

The overall median is 82.

gamerguy1

Italy and Spain cases still rising but will it get to a point when millions have it there or is it already the case with the limited testing. We have 3500 cases which seems small but every county has cases. Could it be that 50% 60% get it here and 4% die

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SleetAndSnow wrote: »

So 84 deaths were not in an ICU setting. I assume the rest were nursing homes etc? Very sad

Some die in hospital before they reach ICU. Sudden cardiac arrest due to underlying issues and the extra strain on organs with the virus. A healthy heart would be under pressure.

bekker

boardise wrote: »

Delighted to hear it after France seized 6 million masks which were made by a French-based Swedish company most of which were contracted to go to other European countries . Nice kick in the teeth for EU solidarity. France first - the rest can go hang.

The first duty of a state is to protect it's citizens.

That's what the German, French and US governments are doing.

None is more worthy of blame or praise than another.

Snipp

Deleted User wrote: »

What's the point of giving the median age? Why not give the average age?

6 of those people that sadly passed away could be 25 for all we know and another 6 could be 93. Saying the median is 92 makes it seem like only very elderly are dying but actually that may not be the case at all.

Extreme outliers do not affect the median as strongly as the average and therefore the median of a set is preferable in statistical analysis, particularly when it comes to health outcomes.

Reckless Abandonment

90k cases globally on the 2 march. We're going to hit 1 million any moment now. What will the 2 of May show.

Ray Donovan

bantee wrote: »

Don't worry there is always a lighthearted story at the end to cheer us all up

Usually about how brilliant immigration is!!

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fritzelly wrote: »

In Rathmines just there for some shopping - some fella walking up the street shouting at the top of his voice how 5G was going to be the ruin of us all (and other related ramblings of pyschotic nature)
They're not just on Twitter

He's not wrong, if these speeds get any faster, we'll just lose the run of ourselves.

iamwhoiam

Stheno wrote: »

Ah yes he's great

Mike is Informed . Articulate , and non gloomy
Unlike Mr. Gloom George Lee

Duke of Url

Good to see the current icu numbers now.

RIP to the people who passed away.

I’m really not surprised that waiting rooms and beds are empty in hospitals

Just Saying

Beasty wrote: »

The problem with that approach is it may be masking a lot of deaths where there was never a test done. Equally that's not necessarily an easy figure to come up with as I cannot imagine they are doing post mortems, but there must be a number where it's suspected (and they take appropriate precautions at funerals for example) but not confirmed

That may be true but you can be sure the figures from Italy,Spain,UK and New York are understated by a far greater percentage given the issues they have with testing.

rusty the athlete

podgeandrodge wrote: »

Agree davedanon. I was moving out to the middle of the road as far as I could possibly get. There is no harm is maximising the gap, to the extent that is physically possible.

It's becoming mutual and almost instinctive, which is very encouraging.

iamwhoiam

Duke of Url wrote: »

Good to see the current icu numbers now.

RIP to the people who passed away.

I’m really not surprised that waiting rooms and beds are empty in hospitals

They won’t be for long if we all listen to George Lees advice “ If you have a lump or bump just pop in to A and E “

macmahon

fritzelly wrote: »

In Rathmines just there for some shopping - some fella walking up the street shouting at the top of his voice how 5G was going to be the ruin of us all (and other related ramblings of pyschotic nature)
They're not just on Twitter

Wouldn't do anyone any harm to actually look into it!

Fann Linn

Snipp wrote: »

Extreme outliers do not affect the median as strongly as the average and therefore the median of a set is preferable in statistical analysis, particularly when it comes to health outcomes.

Perhaps in future the media might consider carrying on with median figures rather than average when contrasting salaries of different sectors.

Cork Boy 53

iamwhoiam wrote: »

They won’t be for long if we all listen to George Lees advice “ If you have a lump or bump just pop in to A and E “

He didn`t actually say that did he?

Duke of Url

iamwhoiam wrote: »

They won’t be for long if we all listen to George Lees advice “ If you have a lump or bump just pop in to A and E “

Lol. I still thing everyone will stay away.

My concern has been that 500 or so healthcare workers tested positive for COVID19.

I’d be nervous going to a doctor never mind a hospital.

Itssoeasy

rusty the athlete wrote: »

It's becoming mutual and almost instinctive, which is very encouraging.

When I'm walking in the evenings at about 8:00pm it's great to see people if they walking towards each other acting like they both have snarling dogs that they can't let get close to each other. I've also noticed people saying thank you when other people move to create distance between people.

Duke of Url

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

He didn`t actually say that did he?

Dr. Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer, Department of Health, said:

"We have a more detailed ICU report available this evening. Of 148 cases admitted to ICU, 25 of those cases have been discharged, sadly there have been 14 deaths from ICU and 109 remain in ICU. The median age of ICU admission is 62.
"I would also like to highlight a worrying scene I witnessed during my visit to hospital on Tuesday evening; empty waiting rooms and empty beds. While protecting yourself from COVID-19 is a priority, no one should ignore signs that they may need medical attention for other ailments such as lumps, chest pain or other concerns. Please do not ignore any symptom outside of COVID-19. The hospitals are there for all ailments, not just COVID-19

BorneTobyWilde

Lots of craziness out there. Lots of New York videos of guys going around to test centres that are empty, Hospitals that have no one in them, interviewing ambulance drivers, asking them have you seen a Covid case, answer is always not so far.
It's easy for a lot of people to believe it's a hoax with things like this going around. I still don't know how to explain those vids, unless they're faked.

fritzelly

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

90k cases globally on the 2 march. We're going to hit 1 million any moment now. What will the 2 of May show.

Over 1 million?

CIARAN_BOYLE

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

He didn`t actually say that did he?

Tony Holohan said that if you have symptoms and are concerned contact medical professionals as you would usually.

If you have chest pains and think you are having a heart attack don't wait a while to see if it goes away call an ambulance.

They are concerned that people are dieing or are sick from illnesses not related to covid 19. From heart attacks, cancers, strokes and the like.

JP Liz V1

Duke of Url wrote: »

Dr. Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer, Department of Health, said:

"We have a more detailed ICU report available this evening. Of 148 cases admitted to ICU, 25 of those cases have been discharged, sadly there have been 14 deaths from ICU and 109 remain in ICU. The median age of ICU admission is 62.
"I would also like to highlight a worrying scene I witnessed during my visit to hospital on Tuesday evening; empty waiting rooms and empty beds. While protecting yourself from COVID-19 is a priority, no one should ignore signs that they may need medical attention for other ailments such as lumps, chest pain or other concerns. Please do not ignore any symptom outside of COVID-19. The hospitals are there for all ailments, not just COVID-19

Are the other deaths from nursing care homes?

Just Saying

One of the most interesting developments today was the transfer of some tests to Germany laboratories in order to reduce the backlog.

This is obviously going to result in a major spike in new cases daily as the additional capacity works through the backlog.

With this in mind I think early next week could see large increases in new cases.As a result the newly clarified ICU figures and the number of deaths daily will be a far better indicator of the spread of the virus.

Away With The Fairies

Reckless Abandonment wrote: »

90k cases globally on the 2 march. We're going to hit 1 million any moment now. What will the 2 of May show.

It's so scary to think. We're only a few minutes away from reaching a million confirmed cases.

davemckenna25

fritzelly wrote: »

Over 1 million?

Worldometer is at 998,767.

Duke of Url

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

Are the other deaths from nursing care homes?

I really don’t know.

I get the info here every day.

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/8f3039-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-thursday-ap/

Away With The Fairies

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It's so scary to think. We're only a few minutes away from reaching a million confirmed cases.

Shouldn't be a scary milestone in itself given that we all know that the number is understated by multiples

CitizenFloor

Just Saying wrote: »

One of the most interesting developments today was the transfer of some tests to Germany laboratories in order to reduce the backlog

I missed that bit, was it announced at the conference?

CIARAN_BOYLE

Just Saying wrote: »

One of the most interesting developments today was the transfer of some tests to Germany laboratories in order to reduce the backlog.

This is obviously going to result in a major spike in new cases daily as they additional capacity works through the backlog.

With this in mind I think early next week could see large increases in new cases.As a result the newly clarified ICU figures and the number of deaths daily will be a far better indicator of the spread of the virus.

Do you recall if they said when this would occur? I may have mis understood but I though that some of today's numbers were including German results.

hogandrew

I was just told that the Range in Carlow is open. Packed with people buying paint etc and limited to no precautions in place. Most other businesses putting themselves under severe financial pressure and this s**thole open for no good reason. Absolutely disgusting and anyone going in is worse

Naggdefy

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

He didn`t actually say that did he?

He did!

cameramonkey

poppers wrote: »

Cheltenham ended 3 weeks ago. I think anyone showing symptoms from now got it somewhere else.

Might take 4 to 14 days for symptoms to start then 10 days from symptoms to full blown pneumonia. That does not include all the people you have infected between then and now just so you could have the crack at gee gees in Cheltenham.

Cork Boy 53

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

Lots of craziness out there. Lots of New York videos of guys going around to test centres that are empty, Hospitals that have no one in them, interviewing ambulance drivers, asking them have you seen a Covid case, answer is always not so far.
It's easy for a lot of people to believe it's a hoax with things like this going around. I still don't know how to explain those vids, unless they're faked.

YouTube videos. A totally trustworthy source of information.:rolleyes:

Fann Linn

hogandrew wrote: »

I was just told that the Range in Carlow is open. Packed with people buying paint etc and limited to no precautions in place. Most other businesses putting themselves under severe financial pressure and this s**thole open for no good reason. Absolutely disgusting and anyone going in is worse

999

Duke of Url

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

It's so scary to think. We're only a few minutes away from reaching a million confirmed cases.

In reality it’s most likely 100 million if not way more

is_that_so

expectationlost wrote: »

need another graph based on date of request for test rather then date got result results

That could be quite an empty graph. Looks like they are going after contact tracing instead. I hope they get round to an antibody test for the data.

iamwhoiam

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

He didn`t actually say that did he?

Yes he did . Apparently A and Es are empty so George decides we can all pop along if we have any lumps or bumps

Quantum Erasure

hogandrew wrote: »

I was just told that the Range in Carlow is open. Packed with people buying paint etc and limited to no precautions in place. Most other businesses putting themselves under severe financial pressure and this s**thole open for no good reason. Absolutely disgusting and anyone going in is worse

Eamon Ryan will have us all out painting our walls

MonkieSocks

Strazdas wrote: »

This is where the antibody test might come into play. There may come a day soon when every person in Ireland is given the antibody test (I believe it only costs €5 or something).

The British Health Secretary Matt Hancock said they were looking at this type of test.

He said it takes about 28 days for your body to develop Antibodys.

Althought FDA has authorized first coronavirus antibody test

The US Food and Drug Administration has issued its first emergency use authorization for a coronavirus test that looks for antibodies in the blood.

That type of test, called a serology test, would be able to identify past coronavirus infections, although it may be less effective at identifying recent ones.

The authorized test, from a manufacturer called Cellex Inc., requires blood to be collected through a vein, and the test itself can only be performed in a certified lab.


Because antibodies can take time to develop, the FDA has previously warned against using antibody tests to definitively diagnose coronavirus

https://edition.cnn.com/2020/04/02/health/fda-coronavirus-antibody-test-authorization/index.html

wakka12

Duke of Url wrote: »

In reality it’s most likely 100 million if not way more

It's definitely not that high , most countries estimate cases to be underrepresented by about a factor of 10x

South Korea and Germany and Iceland have tested Large amounts of their populations and still the vast majority come back negative, the disease is simply just not that widespread currently

Fann Linn

Leaving and Inter cert going ahead also.

JP Liz V1

Quantum Erasure wrote: »

Eamon Ryan will have us all out painting our walls

He has me making salads

Naggdefy

Gordon Elliott and the effects on horse racing on rte news.. My heart bleeds.. I thought the scenes from Italy and Spain were sad.

boardise

Fann Linn wrote: »

Just head of the WHO

Just to be 100% accurate -Michael Ryan is not 'Head' or Director General of the WHO.
His title is Exec Director of WHO Health Emergencies Programme.
He is of course the key man in the most crucial area of WHO operations at the moment.

Duke of Url

Duke of Url wrote: »

Dr. Tony Holohan, Chief Medical Officer, Department of Health, said:

"We have a more detailed ICU report available this evening. Of 148 cases admitted to ICU, 25 of those cases have been discharged, sadly there have been 14 deaths from ICU and 109 remain in ICU. The median age of ICU admission is 62.
"I would also like to highlight a worrying scene I witnessed during my visit to hospital on Tuesday evening; empty waiting rooms and empty beds. While protecting yourself from COVID-19 is a priority, no one should ignore signs that they may need medical attention for other ailments such as lumps, chest pain or other concerns. Please do not ignore any symptom outside of COVID-19. The hospitals are there for all ailments, not just COVID-19

Last week he was complaining about the "worried well"

Just Saying

CitizenFloor wrote: »

I missed that bit, was it announced at the conference?

George Lee spoke about it on the news.

JP Liz V1

Fann Linn wrote: »

Leaving and Inter cert going ahead also.

In the normal exam setting or based on overall work, projects and previous exams etc.,

fritzelly

Joe Duffy has a message - washyerhandz

https://twitter.com/RexChapman/status/1245382719242145794