CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

deise08

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Renacerai.
I will reborn

Talisman

iamwhoiam wrote: »

https://www.breakingnews.ie/world/breathing-machine-developed-in-under-100-hours-to-help-covid-19-patients-990916.html



Positive news .

Yes it is.

A team from University College London (UCL) and University College London Hospital (UCLH) have worked with Mercedes Formula One to adapt and improve existing CPAP in a process known as reverse engineering.

The lawyers are going to have field day when this is over.

eagle eye

podgeandrodge wrote:

So when they raised it to 2 or more symptoms, they are going to get a much higher hit rate even with testing the same number of people.

That was before the change, we have had similar enough figures every day since it was changed, as regards infections, and that isn't going to tell us anything because we are testing under 2k people per day.
Lots of top mathematicians out there but none of them seem to take into account how low our testing numbers per day are.
We probably will never know how many people were infected due to the low testing numbers. I did a guesstimate based on people movement versus % infection and my figure is way higher than what anybody else is saying. I was coming up with circa 98k infected and close to 5k deaths. Deaths so high because of our low number of ICU beds. If you like ok at the hardest hit countries their death rates spiralled when they ran out of ICU beds.

kingshankly

Jin luk wrote: »

Olympics giving green light to go ahead,

Cant end good surely.

It’s in 2021 you know 😂

Ger Roe

Jin luk wrote: »

Olympics giving green light to go ahead,

Cant end good surely.

In July 2021 - do you think that's too soon?

frillyleaf

caveat emptor wrote: »

Someone should really inform them about our guidelines. CMO said they don't work.Seriously what is wrong with people. I'm so fake outraged right now.

It completely makes sense for EVERYONE to wear masks as this reduces the chances of transmission in people who do not have symptoms. Everyone in South Korea wears a mask. We just don’t have enough for everyone to use so I would imagine they are being kept for healthcare workers as they are more vulnerable to being exposed. Wearing masks reduces the risk of you infecting others and makes sense if we had the resources to do this

Bob24

podgeandrodge wrote: »

So, on the masks, and it seems like they are clearly recommended by most countries at this stage.

If you are social distancing, avoiding surfaces and washing hands, the residual risk is really in places like a supermarket for a short period of time yes? The South Korea expert (great video by the way) did imply that outside in the open air there wasn't much risk once people were not congregating for periods of time.

Yes mostly indoor or outdoor if you are in close proximity.

It isn’t just supermarkets though. Amongst the things I can thing of, if someone lives in an apartment block the common areas are for exemple a potential vector. Particularly if you are getting on a lift which is a small enclosed area - if someone who is contagious was coughing on the lift earlier in the day you could still have traces of the virus.

Dave0301

Jin luk wrote: »

Olympics giving green light to go ahead,

Cant end good surely.

In 2021...

cameramonkey

kilkenny31 wrote: »

I think so. Apparently it had to return to the Airport. Its such an Irish story.

what do mean an Irish story?

Tippex

Jin luk wrote: »

Olympics giving green light to go ahead,

Cant end good surely.

yes in 2021 not this year.

Jin luk

kingshankly wrote: »

It’s in 2021 you know 😂

Oh damn, this lack of sleep is hitting me now lol

Strazdas

A UK Govt opinion poll (not intended for publication) indicates that 65% of people in NI are 'extremely worried' or 'very worried' about Covid-19.

It's a very stressful time for all.

kilkenny31

cameramonkey wrote: »

what do men an Irish story?

I just find it ironic that a plane being sent for supplies had a bird strike and had to return to the Airport. Its just our luck.

Ficheall

Strazdas wrote: »

A UK Govt opinion poll (not intended for publication) indicates that 65% of people in NI are 'extremely worried' or 'very worried' about Covid-19.

And mostly about the other 35%.

jam_mac_jam

kilkenny31 wrote: »

I just find it ironic that a plane being sent for supplies had a bird strike and had to return to the Airport. Its just our luck.

It's not remotely ironic. It just happens. I'm not sure why everything Irish has to be run down.

cameramonkey

kilkenny31 wrote: »

To sum up the testing being performed now is sufficient while we are in lockdown and the risk of spread is greatly reduced.

You have no idea what the testing and lab performance is so how can you say it is sufficient ?

syngindub

kilkenny31 wrote: »

I just find it ironic that a plane being sent for supplies had a bird strike and had to return to the Airport. Its just our luck.

Didnt realise the birds were on strike !!

RugbyLad11

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 30 March 2020 @ 08:00 hrs



A welcome fall in the numbers today... maybe even a peak ?

Hopefully not a glitch, time will tell.

Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

The day is not over let and many counties have not released their final numbers so this chart is meaningless

Widdensushi

Roger_007 wrote: »

I hate that word ‘cocooning’. Let’s call it what it is, it’s effectively the imprisonment of the most vulnerable and fragile people in society and for those who live alone, it’s solitary confinement. We may argue all we like that it’s for the greater good but we cannot ignore the damage that’s being done to the mental health of those who have to suffer it. Isn’t it ironic that in the penal systems of most countries, solitary confinement is not used any more because it is deemed to be too mentally destructive.
One of the, (possibly unintended), consequences of the present policy is if it successful we will end up with a cohort of people who will not be allowed to see the light of day until the disease is completely eradicated, (or a vaccine developed), because they will have no immunity.

cocoon or die would be the choice for many, I wonder which the majority will pick

Jin luk

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

The day is not over let and many counties have not released their final numbers so this chart is meaningless

Yeah the chart is up to 8am of today still a long way to go in the day still

Professor Moriarty

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

And you're going to a festival in Amsterdam in July?

A not entirely inconsistent position if he believes the current measure will remove all travel restrictions by July

kilkenny31

syngindub wrote: »

Didnt realise the birds were on strike !!

Yeah. Apparently they want the Avian Flu to be treated as seriously as COVID-19.

murfo

jam_mac_jam wrote: »

It's not remotely ironic. It just happens. I'm not sure why everything Irish has to be run down.

Plus i'd imagine there are a lot more birds around now with the lack of humans/aircraft, they must be struggling for food as they don't have as much of our waste that usually gets littered about the place

caveat emptor

frillyleaf wrote: »

It completely makes sense for EVERYONE to wear masks as this reduces the chances of transmission in people who do not have symptoms. Everyone in South Korea wears a mask. We just don’t have enough for everyone to use so I would imagine they are being kept for healthcare workers as they are more vulnerable to being exposed. Wearing masks reduces the risk of you infecting others and makes sense if we had the resources to do this

I guess it's like Irish water in many ways. We pay tax for water because we need it and will die if we don't have it. They spent 70 million to try and convince us to pay for a basic necessity even though it was covered by taxation.

https://www.thejournal.ie/irish-water-consultants-3183868-Jan2017/

Why can't the spend 70 makey up millions on PPE to halt the spread of this virus?

The water falls from the sky.

marno21

marno21 wrote: »

Bird strike was on takeoff - immediately returned to airport.

Reduction in flights meaning birds are no longer avoiding flight paths?

caveat emptor

kilkenny31 wrote: »

I just find it ironic that a plane being sent for supplies had a bird strike and had to return to the Airport. Its just our luck.

Things tend to compound in a bad situation. We wouldn't even notice that on a normal day. Imagine we only had one plane. We'd be fvcked but you can't plan for that.

kilkenny31

cameramonkey wrote: »

You have no idea what the testing and lab performance is so how can you say it is sufficient ?

I mean the strategy of testing people who show the main symptoms is sufficient.

josip

What's going to happen now in the Netherlands?
Their ICUs are effectively full.
https://www.covid-19.no/netherlands-905-out-of-925-icu-beds-in-use


Are they going to do Italian/Spanish triaging or do they have another plan?
Weren't they also going the herd route at some stage?
Are they still?

Bob24

caveat emptor wrote: »

Why can't the spend 70 makey up millions on PPE to halt the spread of this virus?

Money isn’t the problem though. Pretty much every government and every human being on this planet wants masks at the moment. There simply isn’t enough supply.

Jin luk

Jin luk wrote: »

Olympics giving green light to go ahead,

Cant end good surely.

In July 2021

RugbyLad11

DevilsHaircut wrote: »

https://twitter.com/philipoltermann/status/1244556067125723138

I remember arguing on here with certain people because they were saying masks are useless. Now a lot of governments are bring in mask policies.

Ficheall

Rob A. Bank wrote: »

Distribution of laboratory confirmed cases of COVID-19 in the EU/EEA and the UK, as of 30 March 2020 @ 08:00 hrs



A welcome fall in the numbers today... maybe even a peak ?

Hopefully not a glitch, time will tell.

Larger clickable version here :- https://www.ecdc.europa.eu/en/cases-2019-ncov-eueea

Just like the fall on the 15th, 17th, 21st and 23rd signalled that we had beaten this thing.. :rolleyes:



Also, didn't yesterday only have 23 hours?

Jin luk

Jin luk wrote: »

Yeah the chart is up to 8am of today still a long way to go in the day still

Unless the chert is published as of 8am every day it is entirely meaningless

cameramonkey

kilkenny31 wrote: »

I mean the strategy of testing people who show the main symptoms is sufficient.

Strategy may be good and the hope to have 10000 test per day may be good, but in reality the only figures I have seen seem to indicate that we may have the capacity to test only 1200 and in actuality be testing only 700. By testing I mean testing and processing those tests. As they haven't published figures and only give aspirational numbers we do not know.

is_that_so

podgeandrodge wrote: »

So, on the masks, and it seems like they are clearly recommended by most countries at this stage.

If you are social distancing, avoiding surfaces and washing hands, the residual risk is really in places like a supermarket for a short period of time yes? The South Korea expert (great video by the way) did imply that outside in the open air there wasn't much risk once people were not congregating for periods of time.

Not in general by the WHO, who our authorities are following.

https://www.who.int/emergencies/diseases/novel-coronavirus-2019/advice-for-public/when-and-how-to-use-masks

cameramonkey

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

I remember arguing on here with certain people because they were saying masks are useless. Now a lot of governments are bring in mask policies.

As someone said before they will say masks are useful when they have enough of a supply.

statesaver

https://twitter.com/NovicLil/status/1244557756683759617

BorneTobyWilde

How come Prince Charles , or Boris, or Tom Hanks didn't end up dead. All older, all unfit .

caveat emptor

https://twitter.com/patphelan/status/1243986972387016704?s=20

BanditLuke

josip wrote: »

What's going to happen now in the Netherlands?
Their ICUs are effectively full.
https://www.covid-19.no/netherlands-905-out-of-925-icu-beds-in-use


Are they going to do Italian/Spanish triaging or do they have another plan?
Weren't they also going the herd route at some stage?
Are they still?

Doctors will have to make the kind of decisions that i wouldn't wish on anyone.

weisses

josip wrote: »

Are they going to do Italian/Spanish triaging or do they have another plan?

Nope ... They have enough beds and can move people to Germany if needed

sheepsh4gger

frillyleaf wrote: »

It completely makes sense for EVERYONE to wear masks as this reduces the chances of transmission in people who do not have symptoms. Everyone in South Korea wears a mask. We just don’t have enough for everyone to use so I would imagine they are being kept for healthcare workers as they are more vulnerable to being exposed. Wearing masks reduces the risk of you infecting others and makes sense if we had the resources to do this

You can still tell people to make their own. Your argument is invalid.

RugbyLad11

Bob24 wrote: »

Money isn’t the problem though. Pretty much every government and every human being on this planet wants masks at the moment. There simply isn’t enough supply.

I disagree. Masks are everywhere in china now because they have beaten the virus so they have so much stock. When the virus hit China so many factories started to produce PPE and now that the virus is ended in China they are selling this equipment internationally.

So many of my friends on wechat are selling masks, medical suits and even ventilators in bulk.

Pdoghue

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How come Prince Charles , or Boris, or Tom Hanks didn't end up dead. All older, all unfit .

The Italian statistics show that only 2.1 % of all people who have died from Covid-19 have no underlying conditions. All age groups.

Bob24

Ficheall wrote: »

Just like the fall on the 15th, 17th, 21st and 23rd signalled that we had beaten this thing.. :rolleyes:



Also, didn't yesterday only have 23 hours?

Yep these charts are to be looked at with extreme caution - France looks like it has stabilised if you look at the chart but it is completely missleading. What really happened is that due to a lack of test kits, since last week only people with heavy respiratory symptoms and who are in high risk groups are being tested.

stockshares

Briefing today at 5.45pm. Modelling included.

See Richard Chambers or Fergal Bowers Twitter page.

Downlinz

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/patphelan/status/1243986972387016704?s=20

This is obviously nonsense but what exactly do the conspiracy folk think is happening here, who do they think is benefiting from everyone staying at home and a population in fear that seemingly every government in the world is collaborating in?

Talisman

froog wrote: »

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0330/1127300-coronavirus-analysis-ireland-cases/

seems like half our "clusters" are in either hospitals or nursing homes.

The clusters in nursing homes has exploded in the past week - seeing as they have been isolated for over 3 weeks infected staff must be considered the source of the outbreaks.

Health Minister says everything cannot go ‘back to normal’ after Easter Sunday

According to Health Protection Surveillance Centre (HPSC) data, Covid-19 clusters were reported in three residential settings and 17 nursing homes,

The nursing home clusters account for 22% of the total number of clusters outbreaks in the Republic.

CEO of Nursing Homes Ireland Tadgh Daly told RTE radio representatives from the nursing home sector he will meet Mr Harris on Monday afternoon.

Mr Daly said: “We’re somewhat concerned the HSE is still recruiting people from our sector and one of our asks of the Minister today will be to desist recruiting people who are already working on the frontline.

It's like a plot line in a disaster movie.

Micky 32

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

How come Prince Charles , or Boris, or Tom Hanks didn't end up dead. All older, all unfit .

It’s because of the news and media that makes you think that way. They only report doom and gloom and deaths. The majority of people who get the virus will be ok.

It’s like the house party in Longford that had 80 people at it, the reality was there was approx 20.

ITman88

statesaver wrote: »

https://twitter.com/NovicLil/status/1244557756683759617

So the message appears to be in that picture that neither doctors or police are practising social distancing!!
Disgraceful