CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

kilns

2u2me wrote: »

I believe this is the bare minimum time frame being floated about. They have been able to sequence the genome of this virus much quicker than previous sars or mers outbreaks but remember vaccines still haven't been developed for either of those virus' now 17 years on.

You would be surprised when resources are focused on a particular area what can be achieved. At this stage it is a PR race to get a vaccine out there as no pharma company is going to make much profit on a vaccine but the way the world works, if Novartis for example produce the vaccine the US Govt will be forever in their debt and we all know what that means

Danzy

2u2me wrote: »

I believe this is the bare minimum time frame being floated about. They have been able to sequence the genome of this virus much quicker than previous sars or mers outbreaks but remember vaccines still haven't been developed for either of those virus' now 17 years on.

They stopped working on them as the viruses burnt out.

There are at least 40 vaccines being developed with several already at human trials, to say it has been fast is an understatement.

Still will probably be next year before a shoulder is jabbed.

Funsterdelux

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I will.

What do you think about that?


Mod: 1 week ban for continually ignoring mod instructions.

Logan Roy

Delighted the thread will be rid of that nutter for a bit....

CIARAN_BOYLE

is_that_so wrote: »

I see the "game-changing" UK antibody tests are not quite as promising.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/coronavirus-test-uk-antibody-public-health-england-covid-19-downing-street-a9443266.html

Spain made the same conclusion a week ago and all the media picked up on was shoddy Chinese workmanship.

I don't know if these are indigenous tests or foreign produced. Either way we aren't really at the point where people should be able to make a test that is cheap, easy to process and accurate.

weisses

gozunda wrote: »

For those that think mild is meh ...

Even the 'mild' cases are detailed as potentially developing pneumonia

And may deleveop other organ damage

That's no joke ....

What part of mild don't you understand ??

If They develop pneumonia or have organ damage it stops being a mild case

2u2me

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

Spain made the same conclusion a week ago and all the media picked up on was shoddy Chinese workmanship.

I don't know if these are indigenous tests or foreign produced. Either way we aren't really at the point where people should be able to make a test that is cheap, easy to process and accurate.

I've read that at this stage its much more a logistical problem than with resources, funding etc.. will try to get my source or perhaps someone can correct or corroborate.

Doctors room ghost

Peru has a new rule that men allowed out 3 days women the other 3 days nobody on Sunday.

is_that_so

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Peru has a new rule that men allowed out 3 days women the other 3 days nobody on Sunday.

Read a similar story about Panama, bizarre thinking.

Professor Moriarty

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Peru has a new rule that men allowed out 3 days women the other 3 days nobody on Sunday.

Preserving harmony in the home.

Hamsterchops

402 new cases

Is that the real figure, or ......

Might it considerably higher?

Hrududu

Reading back over the last few pages I see some posts where people are talking about the PPE shipments from China not being fit for purpose. But I can't see anything online about this. Is this true or just a rumour?

Hamsterchops

I heard as much in the radio yesterday, sounds like the shipment wasn't as expected.

kmart6

Hrududu wrote: »

Reading back over the last few pages I see some posts where people are talking about the PPE shipments from China not being fit for purpose. But I can't see anything online about this. Is this true or just a rumour?

Here....

amadangomor

Typical fkn government ****- got 203 euro payment when I should have got 350 for having to self isolate due to possible Covid-19 symptoms.

Raging here and gone from calm to stressed- not helping the asthma that I have developed because of the infection I had. Fkn tossers

New Home

frillyleaf wrote: »

This is how the nurses doctors etc treat patients in China. It’s completely sealed suits. I assumed this was how Irish nurses and doctors were kitted out when treating Covid19 patients until I saw footage or maybe it’s old footage ?

Highly unlikely, that's specialised equipment.

cnocbui wrote: »

th care workers - full face covering mask with cartridges. I believe the Italians have had no health worker infections after suiting up to airborne protocol standards.

In that one specific hospital where they had all the equipment ready because it's specialised in infectious diseases.

citysights wrote: »

Someone shared a video here the other day of a hospital in Southern Italy, the corridor was partitioned( different categories of patients at either side ) with yellow tape and the security officer manning it had a gun in his pocket.., inside a hospital!

Not that unusual, over there. Most security officers (and most definitely almost all types of police branches carry guns.

frillyleaf wrote: »

I’ve noticed that we aren’t doing this on the footage I’ve seen. In China the healthcare workers are COMPLETELY covered. They look like they are going into a clean room and they must work 6 hour shifts straight with no toilet break etc. They can’t eat or drink for this time either. The PPE is so robust that some nurses need oxygen after the 6 hour shift.

Our workers look very exposed in the face shields etc I’ve seen footage of. Hair exposed, neck exposed, under chin, ears etc. I would have thought they need complete coverage to protect themselves. Like ‘spacesuit’ PPE

Like I said, that is certainly not the norm. That was ONE specific hospital specialised in dealing solely with infectious diseases (e.g. TB, HIV, MRSA, and a rake of others). Another such hospital is in Rome, and a few other wards are scattered around Italy, but they wouldn't have been able to deal with something of this scale on their own, that's also why patients ended up in "normal" ICUs where the PPE wasn't as specialised. These infectious hospitals already had that type of PPE ready and the procedures well tested because that's what they have to deal with on a daily basis. Using all that equipment needs specific training with refresher courses every six months or so. Other hospitals didn't, there's been a shortage of other, generic PPE, too, that's why you see videos of doctors, nurses and hospital workers BEGGING for help. There have been cases of doctors catching this and dying because they had to work without gloves as there were none left.

cloudatlas

ceadaoin. wrote: »

The US has 7 times the population of Spain. It's hardly shocking. How do the deaths per million compare?


The fear and death mongering on here, especially when it comes to the US, is really depressing. Almost like some people are willing it to happen. Like, why be dicks? We're all in the same boat.

Time for a break from here I think.

Sure it was the same kind of talk about the U.K. Some folks on here are divorced from reality. Plenty of Irish people in both countries as well.

sydthebeat

Hamsterchops wrote: »

402 new cases

Is that the real figure, or ......

Might it considerably higher?

Its undoubtedly higher..... But is anyone actually claiming otherwise?
The can only confirm cases they test, they can only test so much, and the labs can only process so much.

If testing and processing increases then obviously new cases will increase, but does that actually effect anything?

is_that_so

Here's that Google Mobility report on 131 countries.

Challenges in keeping people apart have been underscored by data released by Google for 131 countries showing whether the number of visits to shops, parks and workplaces dropped in March, when many states issued stay-at-home orders to rein in the spread of coronavirus.

https://www.google.com/covid19/mobility/

Snipp

amadangomor wrote: »

Typical fkn government ****- got 203 euro payment when I should have got 350 for having to self isolate due to possible Covid-19 symptoms.

Raging here and gone from calm to stressed- not helping the asthma that I have developed because of the infection I had. Fkn tossers

Your entitlement is sickening.

tobefrank321

Doctors room ghost wrote: »

Peru has a new rule that men allowed out 3 days women the other 3 days nobody on Sunday.

When we go back to "normality" and because there won't be a vaccine for another year, we will have to implement similar restrictions, otherwise shops and shopping centres will be full of people. We might have to limit children from shopping centres as an example. We will still likely have to cocoon the elderly and healthcare workers and their families will still have to take extra precautions. There may have to be a special day for them to do their shopping.

The government needs to work on a post lockdown plan.

Jim Gazebo

Lockdown to go to end of the month today I heard. Must be due to fear of people breaking rules this weekend if the sun comes out.

Not sure how well that would go down.

Tacitus Kilgore

Snipp wrote: »

Your entitlement is sickening.

And their sickening is entitlement

Tacitus Kilgore

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

Lockdown to go to end of the month today I heard. Must be due to fear of people breaking rules this weekend if the sun comes out.

Not sure how well that would go down.

Do you honestly reckon the weather has anything to do with the lockdown not finishing after a fortnight?

Naggdefy

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

We are too big to fail.:cool:

Just say I'm so so so sorry Kermit.

Your posts are informative.

paw patrol

Snipp wrote: »

Your entitlement is sickening.

wtf are you on?

amadangomor

Snipp wrote: »

Your entitlement is sickening.

Are you for real.

otnomart

Europe's coronavirus lockdown measures compared
https://www.politico.eu/article/europes-coronavirus-lockdown-measures-compared/
Interesting exceptions:
Cyprus: Curfew from 9 p.m. to 6 a.m.
Czech Rep.: visiting family allowed.
Denmark: no lockdown; Gatherings of more than 10 people banned.
Estonia: Gatherings of more than 10 people banned.
Sweden: no lockdown. Gatherings of more than 50 people banned

Funsterdelux

Jim Gazebo wrote: »

Lockdown to go to end of the month today I heard. Must be due to fear of people breaking rules this weekend if the sun comes out.

Not sure how well that would go down.

Dont worry, weathers breaking at the weekend. Getting milder though.

Jim Gazebo

Tacitus Kilgore wrote: »

Do you honestly reckon the weather has anything to do with the lockdown not finishing after a fortnight?

Not particularly no, but it always seems to be a Friday when these things extend.

Of course I don't think the lockdown would be extended because of the weather.

gabeeg

Snipp wrote: »

Your entitlement is sickening.

He/she is literally entitled to it.

is_that_so

From the only grown-up in the UK government.

Britain’s ‘peak’ for coronavirus infections will be slightly sooner than previously thought and will be in the next few weeks, the UK’s health minster has said, but it is very very sensitive to how many people continue to follow the social distancing guidelines.

amadangomor

Snipp wrote: »

Your entitlement is sickening.

Will get a warning but worth it.

Hope you die choking from it you horrible cretinous cnut.

Mod: Banned. Completely unacceptable.

is_that_so

amadangomor wrote: »

Will get a warning but worth it.

Hope you die choking from it you horrible cretinous cnut.

Ok, you should get on to the DEASP about your payment, not vent at everyone else.

amadangomor

is_that_so wrote: »

Ok, you should get on to the DEASP about your payment, not vent at everyone else.

I'm on hold with them for the last 20 mins:)

tigger123

amadangomor wrote: »

Will get a warning but worth it.

Hope you die choking from it you horrible cretinous cnut.

Were you laid off due to the corona virus?

is_that_so

amadangomor wrote: »

I'm on hold with them for the last 20 mins:)

Yeah, been there. Life-changing! Good luck!

Summer2020

amadangomor wrote: »

Will get a warning but worth it.

Hope you die choking from it you horrible cretinous cnut.

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froog

heard on pat kenny yesterday lots of people are better off with the payment than before. people that were earning 100 a week part time now getting the full 350. absolute joke.

amadangomor

tigger123 wrote: »

Were you laid off due to the corona virus?

Can't work due to infection causing asthma. Test was cancelled because I didn't have temperature.

Have to lie down for couple of hours after sweeping the kitchen so definitely can't go to work. Have limited breathing.

Curious_Case

mike_ie wrote: »

Mod:

@Kermit.de.frog - Don't post in the thread again. Cheers.

I don't think he was being cheeky
"Too big to fail" is just a banking bailout reference

Snipp

gabeeg wrote: »

He/she is literally entitled to it.

Maybe I am in the minority, but I have always viewed social welfare payments as a privilege and not an entitlement. The money is coming from others' hard earned pay check.

gabeeg

Summer2020 wrote: »

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snitch

Tokyo

amadangomor wrote: »

Will get a warning but worth it.

Hope you die choking from it you horrible cretinous cnut.

Mod: Not even remotely acceptable. One week ban.

is_that_so

froog wrote: »

heard on pat kenny yesterday lots of people are better off with the payment than before. people that were earning 100 a week part time now getting the full 350. absolute joke.

All about a simplified process for 500K people. It's far messier and time-consuming to dumpster dive on people to save a few bob and it's only for a limited period.

froog

amadangomor wrote: »

Can't work due to infection causing asthma. Test was cancelled because I didn't have temperature.

Have to lie down for couple of hours after sweeping the kitchen so definitely can't go to work. Have limited breathing.

so you weren't laid off and you aren't even confirmed as positive.

righto.

Cuddlesworth

froog wrote: »

heard on pat kenny yesterday lots of people are better off with the payment than before. people that were earning 100 a week part time now getting the full 350. absolute joke.

Instead of looking at like people are getting more for less, maybe look at it like how little they were getting in the first place?

sydthebeat

Apart from the outlier small counties of Andorra and San Marino....

Belgium is going to become the third country to break the 100 deaths per million barrier, after Italy and Spain.

How did they get it so wrong?

crossman47

amadangomor wrote: »

Typical fkn government ****- got 203 euro payment when I should have got 350 for having to self isolate due to possible Covid-19 symptoms.

Raging here and gone from calm to stressed- not helping the asthma that I have developed because of the infection I had. Fkn tossers

No need to get so stressed. There are bound to be mistakes in processing so many claims (including some chancers) over a short period. I'm sure it will be sorted. The civil servants are making trojan efforts on this one.