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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    davedanon wrote: »
    They all have Covid, so they tested positive.

    What are you insinuating, that there's something sinister going on?

    Ryan, Claire and Ciara Kelly had a threesome.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    otnomart wrote: »
    They are probably prescribed anti-virals, while most ordinary people not hospitalised have to cope with paracetamol.

    Maybe blood plasma from patients who have recovered...? Just a thought. Seems weird they'd let Prince Charles go and meet people after just a week.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,878 ✭✭✭arse..biscuits


    spookwoman wrote: »
    *uck sake rte news now is a cross between one big advert and a broken record player.

    If I see the report of the boy playing football in his garden again I'll go to Lidl and lick the floor clean.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,842 ✭✭✭Rob A. Bank


    Sky correspondent trying to get to Beijing and ended up in quarantine for 14 days in another city.

    Impressive border defenses against the virus !



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭spookwoman


    Pity they didn't interview the neighbour of the kid, i'd say they are probably demented listening to the ball banging off the fence. That fence is not going to last long


  • Site Banned Posts: 93 ✭✭Marsden35


    Are we trusting the Russian figures? another country late to act and infection rates seem suspiciously low....


  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,842 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Beasty wrote: »
    When they said "now", they didn't mean "now", them meant "then" (or 7pm in time language)

    Alas this prediction cannot be guaranteed, and indeed it won't be "now", may not be "then" as it could be "later"

    "Time" will tell


    ":pac:"
    ...but not yet - only one of those 3 options is still in the game though!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    HSE fluctuating public pronouncements don't fill me with confidence. 3 weeks ago it was all we were low risk, low risk when we had single digit cases.

    2 weeks ago seriously high risk. 15,000 cases by the end of March.

    Now they are going to tell us we are somewhere in the middle, which will probably be correct. But they seem full of guess work and wildly fluctuating modelling.

    Because it is guess work with wildly fluctuating models at the end of the day, how could anyone be accurate about this?. The virus doesnt think for itself, people spread it, if people change their behaviour then the models will wildly change from what was predicted


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,216 ✭✭✭Del Griffith


    Heard Prince Charles is over it. Do you think they were given a small dose of a different strain. Seems a lot of important people getting it but not that ill.

    https://twitter.com/QuickTake/status/1244630279362404352?s=20

    No, thats just what happens in the vast, vast majority of cases. You are hearing about it cos they have celebrity but the result is totally standard, most are fine.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,680 ✭✭✭✭ACitizenErased


    Big delay.


  • Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    OscarMIlde wrote: »
    That's difficult to estimate in the case of RT PCR. The lab analysis has roughly 5 main steps 1) book in of samples. 2) RNA extraction 3) cDNA synthesis 4) RT-PCR 5) analysis and results reporting. These are discrete steps and can be split over different days. e.g samples from late afternoon may have RNA extracted and stored in a -80C for the following day's shift. Alternatively finished cDNA may be held in a -20C freezer until a machine is free to conduct RT-PCR. The labs are generally overlapping all of these steps to maximise output, for example while a machine is running an RT-PCR plate for one set of patients the scientist may begin making another batch of cDNA from a different cohort. I'm not involved in covid-19 testing but I imagine the scientists who are are busy enough processing samples and analysing results without devoting time to figuring estimating how many tests they can do in a day for someone on boards.ie.
    They will have supplied estimates to HSE prior to the lab testing being expanded.

    Daily reports will be submitted covering the various metrics of their processing activities.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,386 ✭✭✭MonkieSocks


    spookwoman wrote: »
    It's already been said before, if in the early stages the test is done there is not always enough virus payload to register a positive.

    Got a Medical link for the above.

    How much of a virus payload is needed for a test to be Positive?

    =(:-) Me? I know who I am. I'm a dude playing a dude disguised as another dude (-:)=



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,987 ✭✭✭spookwoman




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,015 ✭✭✭Kevwoody


    If I see the report of the boy playing football in his garden again I'll go to Lidl and lick the floor clean.


    Hot mom though!


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,756 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    That RTE reporter, Sean Whelan, looks sick to me

    I was thinking the same on the both broadcasts I saw today where he was broadcasting live.


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  • Administrators, Social & Fun Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 77,842 Admin ✭✭✭✭✭Beasty


    Looks like Belarus could throw down a challenge to any team to come and beat them, or simply declare themselves Champions of the World....


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Because it is guess work with wildly fluctuating models at the end of the day, how could anyone be accurate about this?. The virus doesnt think for itself, people spread it, if people change their behaviour then the models will wildly change from what was predicted

    Calm down. The 15,000 projection wasn't even remotely accurate before social distancing could take effect. It was inaccurate from the start.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    No, thats just what happens in the vast, vast majority of cases. You are hearing about it cos they have celebrity but the result is totally standard, most are fine.

    The virus doesn't leave the system for quite a while though. Came across a document from The European Centre for Disease Prevention and Control saying the virus stays in the system for about five weeks after infection. Average duration of symptoms is about 22 days (varies between 18 and 83 days). The tests are also giving false negative in about 30% of cases.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 4,950 ✭✭✭ChikiChiki


    Feck sake RTÉ News now. Rehashing content from 5 says ago.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,305 ✭✭✭✭branie2


    Big delay.

    Could be serious


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,945 ✭✭✭growleaves


    Cuomo wonders if coronavirus quarantine may have backfired in some cases
    But Wednesday, Cuomo’s answer during an hour-long news conference about quarantines — which are backed by city and state health officials — took a new turn as he speculated it might have spread the disease.

    “I don’t even know that that was the best public health policy. Young people then quarantined with older people, [it] was probably not the best public health strategy,” he said. “The younger people could have been exposing the older people to an infection.”

    Whoops.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,888 ✭✭✭AtomicHorror


    Marsden35 wrote: »
    Are we trusting the Russian figures? another country late to act and infection rates seem suspiciously low....

    Goodness no. Most of the figures are at best a flawed sampling. Russia's are surely just a work of fiction.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 10,654 ✭✭✭✭Mental Mickey


    branie2 wrote: »
    Could be serious

    Could be for any reason?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,806 ✭✭✭An Ciarraioch


    branie2 wrote: »
    Could be serious

    Given we've already had days with 10 and 14 deaths, hard to imagine what could be more serious?


  • Registered Users Posts: 547 ✭✭✭RugbyLad11


    Sky correspondent trying to get to Beijing and ended up in quarantine for 14 days in another city.

    Impressive border defenses against the virus !


    China don't **** around. Meanwhile Ireland we have a few people handing out leaflets in airports


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Calm down. The 15,000 projection wasn't even remotely accurate before social distancing could take effect. It was inaccurate from the start.

    It would be more than 15000 without measures being taken, we couldn't prove it though as we wouldn't have the test kits .


  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,536 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    Increase from yesterday but still a decent number.


  • Registered Users Posts: 881 ✭✭✭cosanostra


    branie2 wrote: »
    Could be serious

    Theres modeling people gonna be there tonight so prob just timing of getting everything set up


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    branie2 wrote: »
    Could be serious

    Could be busy


  • Site Banned Posts: 93 ✭✭Marsden35


    I predicted single digit casualties for Ireland today based on my shoddy modelling and hopes.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,864 ✭✭✭podgeandrodge


    Amirani wrote: »
    Increase from yesterday but still a decent number.

    Can you quote the figures, I can't get onto RTE News Now!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 7,068 ✭✭✭MarkY91


    Given we've already had days with 10 and 14 deaths, hard to imagine what could be more serious?

    15 deaths?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 19,245 ✭✭✭✭Strazdas


    Could be for any reason?

    Yes, they've had two or three hour delays before and the numbers weren't anything out of the ordinary.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    Putting the 15,000 figure out with the intention of frightening people into behaving and then clapping ourselves on the back mightn't have been the best strategy either.

    You only had to look at all the congratulations on here when we generally had rises of 12-18% daily last week. Can ultimately lead to complacency.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,159 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Watching The Hairy Bikers in Italy and suddenly feel so sad . Its all outdoors in sunny markets and old people sitting together in outdoor cafes . Poor Italy


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,497 ✭✭✭auspicious


    branie2 wrote: »
    Could be serious

    Just finishing a cuppa. Nothing worse than cold tea.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 280 ✭✭ShayNanigan


    I wasn't looking at the screen and for a moment there I thought they were starting the briefing with some banjo playing... "Must be serious" was the thought in my head for a second.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,162 ✭✭✭autumnbelle


    Not on rte news what are the figures


  • Posts: 5,311 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Amirani wrote: »
    Increase from yesterday but still a decent number.

    Care to elaborate?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 14,497 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    iamwhoiam wrote: »
    Watching The Hairy Bikers in Italy and suddenly feel so sad . Its all outdoors in sunny markets and old people sitting together in outdoor cafes . Poor Italy

    Better than being jammed in pubs in rainy windy Ireland


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭blackcard


    Amirani wrote: »
    Increase from yesterday but still a decent number.

    What are the numbers?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 7,570 ✭✭✭Ulysses Gaze


    auspicious wrote: »
    Just finishing a cuppa. Nothing worse than cold tea.



  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 3,713 ✭✭✭Gods Gift


    I hope there those Victoria secrets models.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 1,981 ✭✭✭Naggdefy


    It would be more than 15000 without measures being taken, we couldn't prove it though as we wouldn't have the test kits .

    It probably is anyway.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭twirlagig


    I’m still seeing that banjo lad. Where are ye seeing number increase?


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  • Registered Users Posts: 497 ✭✭loughside




    Ah Ha a palestinechronicle.com reader...lol!!


    nuff said


  • Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    Beasty wrote: »
    Looks like Belarus could throw down a challenge to any team to come and beat them, or simply declare themselves Champions of the World....
    One of goals of Belarusian Socialist Sporting Party?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,336 ✭✭✭✭Jim_Hodge


    Naggdefy wrote: »
    Putting the 15,000 figure out with the intention of frightening people into behaving and then clapping ourselves on the back mightn't have been the best strategy either.

    You only had to look at all the congratulations on here when we generally had rises of 12-18% daily last week. Can ultimately lead to complacency.

    Thankfully we don't all see things your way.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,159 ✭✭✭✭iamwhoiam


    Better than being jammed in pubs in rainy windy Ireland

    I am tallking about now . Its a stark difference to what they are now experiencing


  • Registered Users Posts: 40 Hedgehod55


    Number hasn't been announced yet, it was an attention-seeker.


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