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CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,306 ✭✭✭Widdensushi


    RobertKK wrote: »
    EU countries with higher populations than Ireland with less people in critical or serious condition.

    Poland 3 (31 deaths) population around 38m
    Romania 33 (52 deaths) population around 20m
    Hungary 6 (15 deaths) population around 10m
    Bulgaria 13 (8 deaths) population around 7m

    Ireland is listed at 59 (54 deaths) population around 5m

    There is this myth we are doing better than others but some of these countries had quarantine for 14 days for people coming from Italy and other affected areas.
    Some of them had governments who stopped flights to hotspots and not wait for the airlines to do it.
    Plus secured their borders to control it.

    Our death toll is most likely higher with our smaller population due to the initial inaction.

    don't believe the figures from other countries, I wonder how many of Ireland s fatalities were residents in nursing homes. Not to be discounted obviously but the fact that it got in to the nursing homes is skewing our figures.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,384 ✭✭✭ceadaoin.


    A - This may come as a surprise to you, but there is a worldwide pandemic ongoing.

    B - What freedom do you think has been taken from you that you will not get back again?

    A. Yeah no **** sherlock. I'm completely aware of what is going on. I already said I agree with social distancing measures

    B.none.

    I'm talking about the people calling for guards to use force on people out shopping, people to be tracked by their mobiles to make sure they are following the rules, army patrolling the streets, reporting their neighbours etc etc. You really dont see anything worrying about these possibilities?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭Talisman


    They haven't been clear at all on the ICU bed numbers available and that needs to improve.

    When they were talking about it previously I think they meant covid ICU, or rather pseudo ICU beds that could be set up with the specific equipment to support covid patients.

    I haven't been one to criticise the response generally, but communication on beds and need numbers has been poor and sometimes contradictory.
    A relative of my wife is a senior member of staff in the Department of Health and they have incredible stories about the number games the HSE play. What follows is an example and not the actual numbers used but it gets the idea across.

    During a flu season hospital A has to accommodate a given number of patients lets say 100 in ICU. The average stay in the ICU is 7 days. 7 x 100 is 700 ICU days. How many ICU beds does the hospital need? 700 / 365 = ~1.9 so at least 2 ICU beds, or 3 to be safe, 4 would be generous and allow a bed for non-influenza patients.

    That is the type of calculation that has been used to determine why a public hospital in Letterkenny, Kilkenny or Tullamore would only need just 4 ICU beds. The calculations ignore the fact that the flu season isn't year round and other factors. Then to top it off there is another metric which will penalise hospital A for the ICU being over capacity for 25% of the time and under utilised for the other 75%.

    This kind of game is why there were only 255 ICU beds in our public hospitals before this all kicked off.

    No capacity in main Dublin hospitals for extra patients needing intensive care (Irish Times, February 27)
    There were 255 ICU beds in the system last year, with 430 planned by 2031.
    It doesn't say in the article but that came from a statement made by HSE national director Liam Woods earlier this year.

    Updated projections on possible Covid-19 hospital admissions due (RTE, March 30)
    Speaking on RTÉ's Morning Ireland, Ms O'Connor said there were more than 2,000 beds available in the acute hospital system today and around 170 intensive care beds.
    That's the same Anne O'Connor who along with Paul Reid gave the headline grabbing "around 500" figure at the weekend.


  • Posts: 2,016 [Deleted User]


    jackboy wrote: »
    Guards out pointing a scanner at cars but not stopping anyone. What is that about? It’s outside a town and definitely not a speed check.

    I can only imagine its designed to scare people into compliance?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    don't believe the figures from other countries, I wonder how many of Ireland s fatalities were residents in nursing homes. Not to be discounted obviously but the fact that it got in to the nursing homes is skewing our figures.
    They are still deaths from COVID-19.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭Coyote


    Number updated to match today's report

    I have added a Recovered column, this number is 80% of the infected 14+ days beforehand, this number does not included anyone needing hospital/ICU

    No Change in number
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    Slow Change
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    Big Drop in numbers
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    again with all of this I'm just trying to show people the 14 day delay in an change in how we deal with this
    if you wait till we are overloaded it's too late
    everyone has to make up there own mind but at least look at the maths
    if anyone has questions or thinks it could be changed with better data let me know


    interesting visualization of covid19
    http://91-divoc.com/pages/covid-visualization/

    you need to decide what you do today to affect 3 weeks from now


  • Registered Users Posts: 3,428 ✭✭✭ZX7R


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Those figures are not necessarily up to date. Its very unlikely poland has 3 patients in a serious condition out of 2000.

    Germany's serious/critical stats were not updated for a long time and I thinkit said 2 in a serious condition when they had 10,000 cases. Its 2000 in a serious or critical condition now, took a long time to update

    Ignore polish figures they are not recording deaths with known underlying issues.
    Not recording deaths from institutions such as nursing homes ECT.
    Only testing when infected are hospitalized.
    Source my wife is polish and has family working in medical hospital.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,464 ✭✭✭BrianD3


    But the ICU numbers are incorrect. It’s not the current number. It’s the total who passed through the ICU. There must be a reason for it.
    I agree that there has to be a reason. Could it be that they want to overstate the number of ICU cases so that people don't get complacent.

    The journalists at the press conferences are failing here by not pinning them down on this:

    "How many patients were in ICUs on Saturday"
    "On Saturday there had been 81 admissions to ICU"
    "But how many were in ICU on Saturday".

    Also I'm wondering about the number of ICU beds, there are figures of of 350, 500 and 1200 :confused: Perhaps it is "too complicated" and us plebs would never understand, just as we'd never understand how to put on a face mask without infecting ourselves.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,278 ✭✭✭1641


    poppers wrote: »
    I think the high rate of infection in the health care workers is could be due to the fact that ireland is not used to seeing highly infectious diseases so people are not overly cautious when dealing with patients.
    Even on the continent you get Rabies etc. Just an opinion


    They indicated that many health worker infections have not come directly from their work. There are community infections, health workers who picked up infections through foreign travel, and infections spread through health workers socially. What proportion these account for wasn't said - probably would be difficult. Also, I would suspect that a fair proportion of nursing home infections may have come about via health workers.
    This is not to suggest that there is any blame on the health workers whatsoever, btw.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    STB. wrote: »
    Serious lack of reagents. I gather that's why a lot of tests had to be dropped on the 24th. Had to be more pin point with them. That is the case as of the weekend where Senior HSE staff gave individual presentations to the press and said as much.

    It also explains why ICU fugures more than tripled between the 20th and the 24th. ICU figures went to 88 with COVID19. Thats people turning up in a bad way, some of which were probably awaiting tests. They are the quite serious cases, requiring ventilation. Covid19 and normal ICU patients share overall ICU capacity.


    And thats where the trouble lies. Only 500 ICU beds between public and private, at this time.
    Are COVID-19 patients in same ICU environment as non-COVID-19 patients ?

    Or in seperete ICU environment though in same hospital?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,009 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    A. Yeah no **** sherlock. I'm completely aware of what is going on. I already said I agree with social distancing measures

    B.none.

    I'm talking about the people calling for guards to use force on people out shopping, people to be tracked by their mobiles to make sure they are following the rules, army patrolling the streets, reporting their neighbours etc etc. You really dont see anything worrying about these possibilities?

    We've enough to be doing worrying about what is going on in reality instead of reacting to every comment as if it is government policy.


  • Registered Users Posts: 4,076 ✭✭✭blackcard


    RobertKK wrote: »
    EU countries with higher populations than Ireland with less people in critical or serious condition.

    Poland 3 (31 deaths) population around 38m
    Romania 33 (52 deaths) population around 20m
    Hungary 6 (15 deaths) population around 10m
    Bulgaria 13 (8 deaths) population around 7m

    Ireland is listed at 59 (54 deaths) population around 5m

    There is this myth we are doing better than others but some of these countries had quarantine for 14 days for people coming from Italy and other affected areas.
    Some of them had governments who stopped flights to hotspots and not wait for the airlines to do it.
    Plus secured their borders to control it.

    Our death toll is most likely higher with our smaller population due to the initial inaction.

    When this is all finished, I am sure a study will be done to find out the actual death rates in various countries and the causes of the different death rates. China is showing a death rate of 2 per million which is obviously fictional. Where people had a serious underlying condition, Germany are not reporting the deaths as covid 19 deaths. You then have some of the eastern European countries whose statistics are either untruthful or their medical practices are just not capable of establishing rates of infection. Belarus has zero cases of infection???


  • Registered Users Posts: 292 ✭✭Hippykitten


    NDWC wrote: »
    Holohan is unflappable in fairness to him

    Very impressed with Dr. Tony Holohan throughout this crisis. Saw the UK and New York press conferences yesterday and I felt that they were trying to hide the extent of the difficulties. Holohan delivers the facts and answers questions in an honest and reassuring way.


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,756 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    don't believe the figures from other countries, I wonder how many of Ireland s fatalities were residents in nursing homes. Not to be discounted obviously but the fact that it got in to the nursing homes is skewing our figures.

    They have nursing homes in Eastern Europe.
    But maybe they managed to keep more of the virus out initially through the actions they took like quarantine for people from Italy.
    We just let people including Irish people coming from Italy to freely roam about and infect people.
    Maybe this is why so many nursing homes ended up affected and infected.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,922 ✭✭✭GM228


    Ireland Coronavirus Statistics - Day 31 - Monday 30/03/2020

    Today's Stats (based on official released data):-
    Total cases: 2910
    Daily case increase: 11.28%
    Daily case confirmation increase/decrease: 47.50%
    Mortality rate: 1.86%
    *Recovery rate: 0.17%
    Poplulation infected: 0.059%

    Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 33.52%
    Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 21/03/20): 15.67%
    Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 24/03/20): 14.59%
    Average daily cases last 3 days (since 28/03/20): 11.14%

    Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 39.81%
    Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 21/03/20): 12.87%
    Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 24/03/20): 6.88%
    Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 28/03/20): 4.29%


    For comparrison, yesterday's day 1, 3 day, 7 day and 10 day averages:-
    GM228 wrote: »
    Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 34.26%
    Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 20/03/20): 16.80%
    Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 23/03/20): 16.43%
    Average daily cases last 3 days (since 27/03/20): 12.92%

    Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 39.56%
    Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 20/03/20): 4.72%
    Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 23/03/20): 11.67%
    Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 27/03/20): -5.40%

    Data as per officially released numbers:-
    DAY
    |
    DATE
    |
    Cases
    |
    New Cases
    |
    Total Cases
    |
    Case Increase
    |
    Daily Reporting Change
    |
    Deaths to date
    |
    Mortality Rate
    |
    Hospitalised
    |
    Hospital Rate
    |
    ICU
    |
    ICU Rate
    |
    *Recovered
    |
    Recovery Rate
    |
    Population %
    |
    **Current Active Cases

    1|29/02/2020|0|1|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
    2|01/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
    3|02/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
    4|03/03/2020|1|1|2|100.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|2
    5|04/03/2020|2|4|6|200.00%|300.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|6
    6|05/03/2020|6|7|13|116.67%|75.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|13
    7|06/03/2020|13|5|18|38.46%|-28.57%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|18
    8|07/03/2020|18|1|19|5.56%|-80.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|19
    9|08/03/2020|19|2|21|10.53%|100.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|21
    10|09/03/2020|21|3|24|14.29%|50.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|24
    11|10/03/2020|24|10|34|41.67%|233.33%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|34
    12|11/03/2020|34|9|43|26.47%|-10.00%|1|2.33%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|42
    13|12/03/2020|43|27|70|62.79%|200.00%|1|1.43%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|69
    14|13/03/2020|70|20|90|28.57%|-25.93%|1|1.11%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.002%|89
    15|14/03/2020|90|39|129|43.33%|95.00%|2|1.55%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%|127
    16|15/03/2020|129|40|169|31.01%|2.56%|2|1.18%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%|167
    17|16/03/2020|169|54|223|31.95%|35.00%|2|0.90%|84|37.7%|6|2.69%|5|2.24%|0.005%|216
    18|17/03/2020|223|69|292|30.94%|27.78%|2|0.68%|108|37%|7|2.40%|5|1.71%|0.006%|285
    19|18/03/2020|292|74|366|25.34%|7.25%|2|0.55%|140|38.8%|12|3.28%%|5|1.37%|0.007%|359
    20|19/03/2020|366|191|557|52.19%|158.11%|3|0.54%|173|31.1%|13|2.33%|5|0.9%|0.011%|549
    21|20/03/2020|557|126|683|22.62%|-34.03%|3|0.44%|211|30.9%|13|1.90%|5|0.73%|0.014%|675
    22|21/03/2020|683|102|785|14.93%|-19.05%|3|0.38%|239|30.4%|25|3.18%|5|0.64%|0.016%|777
    23|22/03/2020|785|121|906|15.41%|18.63%|4|0.44%|277|30.6%|36|3.97%|5|0.64%|0.018%|897
    24|23/03/2020|906|219|1125|24.17%|80.99%|6|0.53%|305|27.1%|39|3.47%|5|0.44%|0.023%|1114
    25|24/03/2020|1129|204|1329|18.13%|-6.85%|7|0.53%|340|25.61|47|3.54%|5|0.38%|0.027%|1317
    26|25/03/2020|1329|235|1564|17.68%|15.20%|9|0.58%|419|26.8%|59|3.77%|5|0.32%|0.032%|1550
    27|26/03/2020|1564|255|1819|16.30%|8.51%|19|1.04%|489|26.9%|67|3.68%|5|0.27%|0.037%|1795
    28|27/03/2020|1819|302|2121|16.60%|18.43%|22|1.04%|564|26.6%|70|3.30%|5|0.24%|0.043%|2094
    29|28/03/2020|2121|294|2415|13.86%|-2.65%|36|1.49%|645|26.7%|84|3.48%|5|0.21%|0.049%|2374
    30|29/03/2020|2415|200|2615|8.28%|-31.97%|46|1.76%|NR|NR|84|3.21%|5|0.19%|0.053%|2564
    31|30/03/2020|2615|295|2910|11.28%|47.50%|54|1.86%|NR|NR|84|2.89%|5|0.17%|0.059%|2851

    NR = Not Reported

    Source: Department of Health and the Health Protection Surveillaence Centre.

    *"Recovered" rates are not reported by the Department of Health in the above link, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data suplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting. Recovered statistics can only be published as "recovered" following two successful tests of being clear of the virus under the WHO reporting guidelines, as a result it is likely the recovered data is skewed.

    ** Due to the above issue with reporting of revovered cases the number of active cases is also likely skewed.

    Day 20 - Thursday 19/03/20 Stats
    Day 21 - Friday 20/03/20 Stats
    Day 22 - Saturday 21/03/20 Stats
    Day 23 - Sunday 22/03/20 Stats
    Day 24 - Monday 23/03/20 Stats
    Day 25 - Tuesday 24/03/20 Stats
    Day 26 - Wednesday 25/03/20 Stats
    Day 27 - Thursday 26/03/20 Stats
    Day 28 - Friday 27/03/20 Stats
    Day 29 - Saturday 28/03/20 Stats
    Day 30 - Sunday 29/03/20 Stats


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,207 ✭✭✭Talisman


    How many are in the ICU today?

    Where do I find this please?
    The simple answer is you don't.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,034 ✭✭✭Ficheall


    Coyote wrote: »
    on a side note it's interesting how many people will not read something like this which is hard numbers, but will continue to post ides/theories with no detail or fact behind them. posting "I had it last November" or other "facts" with no backup or proof
    Yes, it's quite a lot of "hard numbers", but where are you pulling them from?


  • Posts: 2,016 [Deleted User]


    Ideally that is what should happen. Unfortunately the resources are not there to enforce it. The fines and /or jail time could be introduced to some degree though.

    Thats just your opinion, man. I wholeheartedly disagree.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,509 ✭✭✭Reckless Abandonment


    They could start lying about the numbers. 1k today 2k tomorrow scare the **** out of everyone. Then boom. Only joking no more cases. Now get your asses back to work :)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 732 ✭✭✭marilynrr


    ceadaoin. wrote: »
    2 domestic murders and a murder suicide in the UK in recent days.

    A person on here was calling for the guards to use violence against people who go out to buy food. Some are actually hoping for martial law.

    Police in the UK are harassing and shaming people who arent breaking the law, people are reporting their neighbours for going for walk, going mad about people buying chocolate ffs. There are talks of phone tracking etc. Loads are pretty much willingly signing up for a totalitarian regime, ****ing idiots. And it's been what, 2 weeks?

    How is this in anyway sustainable in the long term?

    There was a suicide in the UK a few days back too. A 19 year old terrified about the impending lockdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,825 ✭✭✭Doctors room ghost


    The amount of gloves fired on the ground in car parks and streets is ridiculous.cant understand how people can’t use a bin or bring it home.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,825 ✭✭✭IvoryTower


    How many can you find that disagree with the 22?


  • Registered Users Posts: 33,756 ✭✭✭✭RobertKK


    blackcard wrote: »
    When this is all finished, I am sure a study will be done to find out the actual death rates in various countries and the causes of the different death rates. China is showing a death rate of 2 per million which is obviously fictional. Where people had a serious underlying condition, Germany are not reporting the deaths as covid 19 deaths. You then have some of the eastern European countries whose statistics are either untruthful or their medical practices are just not capable of establishing rates of infection. Belarus has zero cases of infection???

    There was an article in the New York Times about people from Poland leaving the UK because they said they thought the measures the UK were taking were crazy and that their NHS is over rated compared to hospitals in Poland, and they wanted to return home as it was superior both in measures taken and in hospital care.

    Is Belarus in the EU? I am just comparing within EU borders.


  • Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    1641 wrote: »
    They indicated that many health worker infections have not come directly from their work. There are community infections, health workers who picked up infections through foreign travel, and infections spread through health workers socially. What proportion these account for wasn't said - probably would be difficult. Also, I would suspect that a fair proportion of nursing home infections may have come about via health workers.
    This is not to suggest that there is any blame on the health workers whatsoever, btw.
    Tony Honohan was asked directly for % of doctors infected in Irish health care system, he said he didn't have any figures on that and then segued into a rambling discourse on how health workers could have acquired infection.

    I've watched his performances in front of committees over the years and it's a favourite tactic of his when he eiher doesn't have an answer that he could reasonably be expected to have, or he seeks to avoid the logical follow-on.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭Coyote


    GM228 wrote: »
    Ireland Coronavirus Statistics - Day 31 - Monday 30/03/2020

    Today's Stats:-
    Total cases: 2910
    Daily case increase: 11.28%
    Daily case confirmation increase/decrease: 47.50%
    Mortality rate: 1.86%
    *Recovery rate: 0.17%
    Poplulation infected: 0.059%

    Average daily cases change since day 1 (29/02/20): 33.52%
    Average daily cases change last 10 days (since 21/03/20): 15.67%
    Average daily cases change last 7 days (since 24/03/20): 14.59%
    Average daily cases last 3 days (since 28/03/20): 11.14%

    Average daily case confirmation since day 1 (29/02/20): 39.81%
    Average daily case confirmation last 10 days (since 21/03/20): 12.87%
    Average daily case confirmation last 7 days (since 24/03/20): 6.88%
    Average daily case confirmation last 3 days (since 28/03/20): 4.29%


    For comparrison, yesterday's day 1, 3 day, 7 day and 10 day averages:-




    DAY
    |
    DATE
    |
    Cases
    |
    New Cases
    |
    Total Cases
    |
    Case Increase
    |
    Daily Reporting Change
    |
    Deaths to date
    |
    Mortality Rate
    |
    Hospitalised
    |
    Hospital Rate
    |
    ICU
    |
    ICU Rate
    |
    *Recovered
    |
    Recovery Rate
    |
    Population %
    |
    **Current Active Cases

    1|29/02/2020|0|1|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
    2|01/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
    3|02/03/2020|1|0|1|0.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|1
    4|03/03/2020|1|1|2|100.00%|0%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|2
    5|04/03/2020|2|4|6|200.00%|300.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|6
    6|05/03/2020|6|7|13|116.67%|75.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|13
    7|06/03/2020|13|5|18|38.46%|-28.57%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|18
    8|07/03/2020|18|1|19|5.56%|-80.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|19
    9|08/03/2020|19|2|21|10.53%|100.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|21
    10|09/03/2020|21|3|24|14.29%|50.00%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.000%|24
    11|10/03/2020|24|10|34|41.67%|233.33%|0|N/A|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|34
    12|11/03/2020|34|9|43|26.47%|-10.00%|1|2.33%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|42
    13|12/03/2020|43|27|70|62.79%|200.00%|1|1.43%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.001%|69
    14|13/03/2020|70|20|90|28.57%|-25.93%|1|1.11%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.002%|89
    15|14/03/2020|90|39|129|43.33%|95.00%|2|1.55%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%|127
    16|15/03/2020|129|40|169|31.01%|2.56%|2|1.18%|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|NR|0.003%|167
    17|16/03/2020|169|54|223|31.95%|35.00%|2|0.90%|84|37.7%|6|2.69%|5|2.24%|0.005%|216
    18|17/03/2020|223|69|292|30.94%|27.78%|2|0.68%|108|37%|7|2.40%|5|1.71%|0.006%|285
    19|18/03/2020|292|74|366|25.34%|7.25%|2|0.55%|140|38.8%|12|3.28%%|5|1.37%|0.007%|359
    20|19/03/2020|366|191|557|52.19%|158.11%|3|0.54%|173|31.1%|13|2.33%|5|0.9%|0.011%|549
    21|20/03/2020|557|126|683|22.62%|-34.03%|3|0.44%|211|30.9%|13|1.90%|5|0.73%|0.014%|675
    22|21/03/2020|683|102|785|14.93%|-19.05%|3|0.38%|239|30.4%|25|3.18%|5|0.64%|0.016%|777
    23|22/03/2020|785|121|906|15.41%|18.63%|4|0.44%|277|30.6%|36|3.97%|5|0.64%|0.018%|897
    24|23/03/2020|906|219|1125|24.17%|80.99%|6|0.53%|305|27.1%|39|3.47%|5|0.44%|0.023%|1114
    25|24/03/2020|1129|204|1329|18.13%|-6.85%|7|0.53%|340|25.61|47|3.54%|5|0.38%|0.027%|1317
    26|25/03/2020|1329|235|1564|17.68%|15.20%|9|0.58%|419|26.8%|59|3.77%|5|0.32%|0.032%|1550
    27|26/03/2020|1564|255|1819|16.30%|8.51%|19|1.04%|489|26.9%|67|3.68%|5|0.27%|0.037%|1795
    28|27/03/2020|1819|302|2121|16.60%|18.43%|22|1.04%|564|26.6%|70|3.30%|5|0.24%|0.043%|2094
    29|28/03/2020|2121|294|2415|13.86%|-2.65%|36|1.49%|645|26.7%|84|3.48%|5|0.21%|0.049%|2374
    30|29/03/2020|2415|200|2615|8.28%|-31.97%|46|1.76%|NR|NR|84|3.21%|5|0.19%|0.053%|2564
    31|30/03/2020|2615|295|2910|8.28%|47.50%|54|1.86%|NR|NR|84|2.89%|5|0.17%|0.059%|2851

    NR = Not Reported

    Source: Department of Health and the Health Protection Surveillaence Centre.

    *"Recovered" rates are not reported by the Department of Health in the above link, these figures are taken from the Worldmeters and Johns Hopkins websites which use data suplied by the DoT to the ECDC under the WHO Guidelines for reporting. Recovered statistics can only be published as "recovered" following two successful tests of being clear of the virus under the WHO reporting guidelines, as a result it is likely the recovered data is skewed.

    ** Due to the above issue with reporting of revovered cases the number of active cases is also likely skewed.

    Day 20 - Thursday 19/03/20 Stats
    Day 21 - Friday 20/03/20 Stats
    Day 22 - Saturday 21/03/20 Stats
    Day 23 - Sunday 22/03/20 Stats
    Day 24 - Monday 23/03/20 Stats
    Day 25 - Tuesday 24/03/20 Stats
    Day 26 - Wednesday 25/03/20 Stats
    Day 27 - Thursday 26/03/20 Stats
    Day 28 - Friday 27/03/20 Stats
    Day 29 - Saturday 28/03/20 Stats
    Day 30 - Sunday 29/03/20 Stats

    I would ask people to spend a few minuets reading posts like this and try to understand the numbers.
    there is a large number or reasons that different countries have different reported cases. testing, reporting other reasons
    Ireland is testing a large number of people as a % of people reporting

    Regards

    Coyote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Well, they now have PPE coming out their ears or will do by Wednesday.


    "Coming out their ears". I suugest you don't say that to someone on the frontlines, or you might get the box in the head that you deserve. :)

    Fúck all use to the 506 already infected over the past month.

    Staff are understandably stressed, putting their life on the lines for the past month with little or no protection.

    Lets hope what they have ordered are actually FFP2 at the least.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    jackboy wrote: »
    That’s fair enough. I didn’t realize they had scanners that could instantly give them such details. Definitely handy in this situation.

    Their checking insurance and tax as usual how far from home ffs


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 962 ✭✭✭darjeeling


    wakka12 wrote: »
    Italian cases are probably underrepresented by about a factor of 20x
    Even the deaths in North Italy are supposedly up to 4 times higher than official estimates according to the mayor of Bergamo

    Latest modelling from Imperial College group estimates ~10% of Italian population infected = 5.9M people (95% conf interval = 1.9M to 15.2M)

    Even higher estimate for Spain: 15% = 7M (95% CI 1.8M to 19M).

    Country|% of total population infected|[95% credible interval]
    Austria|1.1|[0.36%-3.1%]
    Belgium|3.7|[1.3%-9.7%]
    Denmark|1.1|[0.40%-3.1%]
    France|3.0|[1.1%-7.4%]
    Germany|0.72|[0.28%-1.8%]
    Italy|9.8|[3.2%-26%]
    Norway|0.41|[0.09%-1.2%]
    Spain|15|[3.7%-41%]
    Sweden|3.1|[0.85%-8.4%]
    Switzerland|3.2|[1.3%-7.6%]
    United Kingdom|2.7|[1.2%-5.4%]

    link


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,786 ✭✭✭wakka12




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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,026 ✭✭✭JoChervil


    RobertKK wrote: »
    EU countries with higher populations than Ireland with less people in critical or serious condition.

    Poland 3 (31 deaths) population around 38m
    Romania 33 (52 deaths) population around 20m
    Hungary 6 (15 deaths) population around 10m
    Bulgaria 13 (8 deaths) population around 7m

    Our death toll is most likely higher with our smaller population due to the initial inaction.

    Don't believe in these figures. Polish government wants to force presidential election on the May 10th, so has a motive to keep the numbers low. 3 in serious condition? C'mon


  • Posts: 6,192 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    RobertKK wrote: »
    There was an article in the New York Times about people from Poland leaving the UK because they said they thought the measures the UK were taking were crazy and that their NHS is over rated compared to hospitals in Poland, and they wanted to return home as it was superior both in measures taken and in hospital care.

    Is Belarus in the EU? I am just comparing within EU borders.

    I think.the polish borders are closed (though may be ok for poles to return?)


    They are having a fairly intense lockdown there too (going by polish lad in work anyway)


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    STB. wrote: »
    "Coming out their ears". I suugest you don't say that to someone on the frontlines, or you might get the box in the head that you deserve. :)

    Fúck all use to the 506 already infected over the past month.

    Staff are understandably stressed, putting their life on the lines for the past month with little or no protection.

    Lets hope what they have ordered are actually FFP2 at the least.
    OK, so are you even remotely happy that a delivery has arrived?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,374 ✭✭✭twirlagig


    The amount of gloves fired on the ground in car parks and streets is ridiculous.cant understand how people can’t use a bin or bring it home.

    I noticed that this evening. They’re everywhere... why would you dump them in the middle of a street? I live in a small town, only about 2 shops open in the whole length of the town and there’s a bin every 20metres or so...


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    Very impressed with Dr. Tony Holohan throughout this crisis. Saw the UK and New York press conferences yesterday and I felt that they were trying to hide the extent of the difficulties. Holohan delivers the facts and answers questions in an honest and reassuring way.

    “So, we can continue to be able to assure people that the risk of an individual in this country today picking up this infection in the community in Ireland is extremely low.”

    Tony Holohan, 4th March


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 622 ✭✭✭sheepsh4gger


    Covid19 would be a Communist's/Nazi's/etc's dream; a real totalitarian's charter - but it's all for our benefit so don't worry guys... People reporting on their neighbours is straight up from the East German playbook. I don't believe that anyone is an NPC but I must say that many Irish people have done a good impression of one the last decade at least.

    One other thing; we know for a fact that people who have lost their jobs (of whom we have many now) are more likely to die than otherwise from heart and liver issues as well as suicide.


    Exactly, people here are complete NPCs that just spew out what the government tells them. If they would live through what happened say in East Germany or any of the former communist states they would understand.


    Suicide rates will go through the roof, also alcoholism. More people will die this year from the above than the virus.


    I would tell people to make their own masks and continue working if they want to.


    The stup1d politicians always want to show they are doing something and by getting involved they just make things worse. They have caused a 1929 level market crash with their incompetence. Any of you wanting a 'lockdown' can now enjoy your economic depression for next 4 years.


    The people who will die of the disease have already heavy pre-exisiting conditions and would have died anyway within maybe 5 years.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 875 ✭✭✭mean gene


    The amount of gloves fired on the ground in car parks and streets is ridiculous.cant understand how people can’t use a bin or bring it home.

    Animals found an abandoned pair of stinking blue gloves outside my door


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,236 ✭✭✭Coyote


    marilynrr wrote: »
    There was a suicide in the UK a few days back too. A 19 year old terrified about the impending lockdown.

    i'm not under rating the number of people who might commit suicide, but the other option is open spread of covid19 and we have seen what Italy/Spain looks like with 1000 people a day dead.
    that number is only a small % of the people if the full country of Italy/Spain was allow to be infected. the numbers would be 100's times higher.
    people will be stressed or worried about loads of things without even covid19 but the clam we should just open up so a very small % of people are not stressed and let a lot more die is makes no sense

    Coyote


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 22,009 ✭✭✭✭Tell me how


    jackboy wrote: »
    Guards out pointing a scanner at cars but not stopping anyone. What is that about? It’s outside a town and definitely not a speed check.
    Check the reg against the address maybe to see how far the driver is from home?
    jackboy wrote: »
    That’s fair enough. I didn’t realize they had scanners that could instantly give them such details. Definitely handy in this situation.
    mean gene wrote: »
    Their checking insurance and tax as usual how far from home ffs

    Some Garda absentmindedly playing with his new radar gun has no consideration for the users of an online forum.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,955 ✭✭✭Wolf359f


    bekker wrote: »
    Tony Honohan was asked directly for % of doctors infected in Irish health care system, he said he didn't have any figures on that and then segued into a rambling discourse on how health workers could have acquired infection.

    He doesn't have up to date info as it has to be complied and isn't released daily, last update:
    Healthcare workers
    Travel related 85
    No foreign travel 268
    Under investigation 92
    Total 445
    *All statistics measured at midnight on Thursday 26 March.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    gabeeg wrote: »
    “So, we can continue to be able to assure people that the risk of an individual in this country today picking up this infection in the community in Ireland is extremely low.”

    Tony Holohan, 4th March
    That's a lifetime ago and it was true then.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 87,783 ✭✭✭✭JP Liz V1


    Anyone know how many new cases today

    Was it 278 or 298 but 8 deaths (RIP), a bad day again


  • Registered Users Posts: 780 ✭✭✭no.8


    Pandemic or no pandemic, there will always remain a population of skumbags here (like many places)


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  • Registered Users Posts: 912 ✭✭✭bekker


    I can only imagine its designed to scare people into compliance?
    Number plate check and id matching?

    Dealers have a logistics problem.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,380 ✭✭✭STB.


    GM228 wrote: »
    Ireland Coronavirus Statistics - Day 31 - Monday 30/03/2020


    REMOVED LARGE TABLE
    Coyote wrote: »
    I would ask people to spend a few minuets reading posts like this and try to understand the numbers.
    there is a large number or reasons that different countries have different reported cases. testing, reporting other reasons
    Ireland is testing a large number of people as a % of people reporting

    Regards

    Coyote

    The data is incorrect.

    E.G. ICU Cases shot up 176% between 20th and 24th March.

    Hospital admission went up 61% in the same timeframe.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,520 ✭✭✭An Ri rua


    RobertKK wrote: »
    There was an article in the New York Times about people from Poland leaving the UK because they said they thought the measures the UK were taking were crazy and that their NHS is over rated compared to hospitals in Poland, and they wanted to return home as it was superior both in measures taken and in hospital care.

    Is Belarus in the EU? I am just comparing within EU borders.

    Belarus is pretty much a dictatorship. Certainly not in the EU.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 16,040 ✭✭✭✭niallo27


    JP Liz V1 wrote: »
    Was it 278 or 298 but 8 deaths (RIP), a bad day again

    It's pretty good actually. Them numbers are really encouraging.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,591 ✭✭✭gabeeg


    is_that_so wrote: »
    That's a lifetime ago and it was true then.

    It was 26 days ago, and it was utter, utter rubbish.


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