CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

BanditLuke

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

The scary think is that there are tens of millions of Americans that are watching this thinking he's great.

His numbers are way up of recent. You fear for America not because of Trump but because of American's.

redarmy

Roger_007 wrote: »

I’m beginning to think that Trump is actually insane. He’s suggesting that it’s a waste of time putting people on ventilators. they’re going to die anyway.

its more about him than whats going on

blackcard

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

The scary think is that there are tens of millions of Americans that are watching this thinking he's great.

Over 50% of Americans approve of his handling of the crisis

bekker

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Every country is lying their asses off, Ireland included. Also Germamy if its to be believed, Sweden and so on. Most countries don't include nursing home cases, or those who died at home.

Lying? Just economical with the data they really don't have.

Gods Gift

Terrible thing to say but I look forward to trumps nightly presser.
Comic value.

bekker

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

That's total hogwash.

No unfortunately, check yesterday's briefing.

storker

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

What is the point of Trump being given airtime at all anymore? He is doing far more harm than good. He should just leave things to people who actually know what they are talking about.

He's a narcissist who thinks there's no show without Punch.

Roger_007

Gods Gift wrote: »

Terrible thing to say but I look forward to trumps nightly presser.
Comic value.

I think Woody Allen must be writing the script for these pressers?

bekker

Nonoperational wrote: »

I would phrase it slightly differently because some of the bad things are difficult to avoid due to the global pressures on supplies etc but in my opinion....

Good:
People working very hard with great spirit and work ethic. People doing things outside of the norm no problem. I work with 7 other docs in a group and if there is a hint of an issue with health, childcare etc someone is in within a minute to fill in. That kind of thing.

Community transmission seems to be suppressed significantly with the new measures. The public are by and large being great and making a big effort.

The community support for healthcare workers is unbelievable and I actually feel bad. I went to LIDL the other day and these people are playing just as vital a role. It's massively appreciated but sometimes I feel guilty.

Bad:
I think hospital staff would be more comfortable with full FFP/N95 masks for all ?COVID encounters. Currently we wear fairly flimsy gowns and surgical masks. Saying that I've done 5x13 hour shifts now and I don't have it yet touch wood so maybe its ok.

ICU is filling up. We have plans, but if someone is ventilated it takes bloody ages before the turn the corner. It's going to be the obvious potential pinch point. But at the moment we have spaces planned outside the ICU in temporary locations. But that's not indefinite.

Nursing homes are an obvious concern now.

The lack of testing needs to be addressed. We can't be running out of reagents or swabs or kits. One morning we couldn't run tests and it caused a delay of 12 hours in discharging patients which had a big knock on effect.

Thanks on many levels.

Stheno

Gods Gift wrote: »

Terrible thing to say but I look forward to trumps nightly presser.
Comic value.

Yep same here

Watch it during the week only though

spookwoman

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

''hydroxychloroquine try it, if you like, it's a gift from heaven, its beautiful '' Trump lol

https://streamable.com/ikd2p5

Just have to go in and get regular bloods to check liver function and eye tests

mandrake04

Roger_007 wrote: »

There also seems to be a north/south divide. Virtually all countries south of the Tropic of Cancer have extremely low rates of deaths per head of population by comparison with the northern countries.
Maybe there is something in the theory that there is a climate factor at work. I find it hard to believe that they are all lying about their statistics?

In Australia there’s believed to be several different strains, we are on day 71 and the original Chinese strain accounted for most cases and didn’t seem as lethal as some of the few cases that was traced from Europe, There still community transmission but most cases were brought in from overseas and mostly from Asia and USA.

rebeve

@susmitchellSBP: The Business Post got a copy of the HSE’s audit of the PPE consignment from China. Report on this tomorrow. Unfortunately quite a bit of substandard material that is unsuitable. PPE = huge concern for staff. HSE operating in v tough global procurement market. https://twitter.com/susmitchellSBP/status/1246554310827282439/photo/1

Roger_007

Roger_007 wrote: »

I’m beginning to think that Trump is actually insane.

His usual supporters and I don't like him but...<the left, leo etc> posters on here have been very quiet lately.

I just think he realises that he can't con his way out of this and it's getting to him, but his ego is still getting in the way.

If it doesn't turn into a complete sh1t storm he might still have a chance of being reelected as some of his followers are apparently still posting pictures of their bbqs etc on Twitter under various tags like fakevirus

Nonoperational

blackcard wrote: »

Seems a very fair summary. What are we doing well?
What are we doing badly?

I would phrase it slightly differently because some of the bad things are difficult to avoid due to the global pressures on supplies etc but in my opinion....

Good:
People working very hard with great spirit and work ethic. People doing things outside of the norm no problem. I work with 7 other docs in a group and if there is a hint of an issue with health, childcare etc someone is in within a minute to fill in. That kind of thing.

Community transmission seems to be suppressed significantly with the new measures. The public are by and large being great and making a big effort.

The community support for healthcare workers is unbelievable and I actually feel bad. I went to LIDL the other day and these people are playing just as vital a role. It's massively appreciated but sometimes I feel guilty.

Just regarding Trump and his obsession with Hydroxychloroquine we are using Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in a lot of patients that it is appropriate for along with other treatments like tocilizumab in patients that look like they may be developing ARDS. So we are not lacking there.

Bad:
I think hospital staff would be more comfortable with full FFP/N95 masks for all ?COVID encounters. Currently we wear fairly flimsy gowns and surgical masks. Saying that I've done 5x13 hour shifts now and I don't have it yet touch wood so maybe its ok.

ICU is filling up. We have plans, but if someone is ventilated it takes bloody ages before they turn the corner. It's going to be the obvious potential pinch point. But at the moment we have spaces planned outside the ICU in temporary locations. But that's not indefinite.

Nursing homes are an obvious concern now.

The lack of testing needs to be addressed. We can't be running out of reagents or swabs or kits. One morning we couldn't run tests and it caused a delay of 12 hours in discharging patients which had a big knock on effect.

fin12

Andrew00 wrote: »

We're in tears watching Trump. He is so funny

Is there another press conference today?

declanflynn

Andrew00 wrote: »

We're in tears watching Trump. He is so funny

imagine going for a pint with him, I'd say it would be mad craic

Rob A. Bank

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

''hydroxychloroquine try it, if you like, it's a gift from heaven, its beautiful '' Trump lol

An early small study in China found that it was no good in treating Coronavirus infections

Problem with Hydroxychloroquine is that it has a fairly narrow therapeutic window, meaning the correct dose and poisoning are not that different. The ICUs in Africa are getting clogged up with hydroxychloroquine poisonings, at a time when coronavirus is on the up.

Also India has now banned the export of the chloroquine drugs because Trump has caused a run on the drug. Meaning that people with Malaria are now finding it difficult to get the drug.

The dangerous gob$hite is a menace every time he opens his mouth

tobefrank321

bekker wrote: »

Lying? Just economical with the data they really don't have.

Not sure there's much of a difference. The Italians have underreported deaths by a factor of 3 or 4.
A lot of people have died of covid 19 and been buried without so much as a test.

Are we including nursing home deaths in our figures? No-one seems to know.

bekker

Nonoperational wrote: »

I would phrase it slightly differently because some of the bad things are difficult to avoid due to the global pressures on supplies etc but in my opinion....

Good:
People working very hard with great spirit and work ethic. People doing things outside of the norm no problem. I work with 7 other docs in a group and if there is a hint of an issue with health, childcare etc someone is in within a minute to fill in. That kind of thing.

Community transmission seems to be suppressed significantly with the new measures. The public are by and large being great and making a big effort.

The community support for healthcare workers is unbelievable and I actually feel bad. I went to LIDL the other day and these people are playing just as vital a role. It's massively appreciated but sometimes I feel guilty.

Just regarding Trump and his obsession with Hydroxychloroquine we are using Hydroxychloroquine and azithromycin in a lot of patients that it is appropriate for along with other treatments like tocilizumab in patients that look like they may be developing ARDS. So we are not lacking there.

Bad:
I think hospital staff would be more comfortable with full FFP/N95 masks for all ?COVID encounters. Currently we wear fairly flimsy gowns and surgical masks. Saying that I've done 5x13 hour shifts now and I don't have it yet touch wood so maybe its ok.

ICU is filling up. We have plans, but if someone is ventilated it takes bloody ages before they turn the corner. It's going to be the obvious potential pinch point. But at the moment we have spaces planned outside the ICU in temporary locations. But that's not indefinite.

Nursing homes are an obvious concern now.

The lack of testing needs to be addressed. We can't be running out of reagents or swabs or kits. One morning we couldn't run tests and it caused a delay of 12 hours in discharging patients which had a big knock on effect.

Last paragraph, was that due to lack of swab kits?

Naggdefy

Gods Gift wrote: »

You a flasher??

Well when you've got what I have the public need to see it to boost morale in these times..

greenfield21

tobefrank321 wrote: »

Every country is lying their asses off, Ireland included. Also Germamy if its to be believed, Sweden and so on. Most countries don't include nursing home cases, or those who died at home.

Is there a bit of a long term value for these countries that lie. Have they built up a reputation of always been on top of things which if they lose that could negatively effect them in the long term, through business perception etc..??

darced

The Trump hate is hilarious, he is doing at least as well as the rest of the worlds leaders.

ChikiChiki

BorneTobyWilde wrote: »

I love when he whispers and talks of drugs he knows nothing of , trying to look like he's educating the room.

Or as the doctors/professors are talking on the podium inches is way over as a "you gotta move" signal so he can get his rambling nonsense in.

Utterly transparent and clueless.

Nonoperational

bekker wrote: »

Last paragraph, was that due to lack of swab kits?

I'm actually not sure of the specifics. The lab couldn't do one morning run. I think it was to do with lab PCR kits as opposed to swabs but I actually didn't get the specifics.

storker

darced wrote: »

The Trump hate is hilarious, he is doing at least as well as the rest of the worlds leaders.

Name even one world leader who consistently makes such a complete @rsehole of himself on daily basis.

bekker

bekker wrote: »

Maybe prefers St.Patrick's Cross in a multi-hued configuration.

Na single hue configuration only for them.

Rob A. Bank

darced wrote: »

The Trump hate is hilarious, he is doing at least as well as the rest of the worlds leaders.

kilkenny31

declanflynn wrote: »

imagine going for a pint with him, I'd say it would be mad craic

I'd say it would involve cocaine and hookers.

Quantum Erasure

fin12 wrote: »

Does anyone know what China did after the SARS outbreak to prevent another pandemic?

It’s f*cking unreal how one country is responsible constantly for all these viruses.

Why did SARS not take off in the way this virus did? Canada was the only country outside of 4 or 5 countries in asia that got it in any way bad