CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

Hrududu

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1244730196038647809?s=20

Honest to god are you actually Paddy? You’re forever posting his tweets.

STB.

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1244730196038647809?s=20

Why hasn't this been reported in the media?

Catastrophe of epic proportions. The numbers infected are well over 500 now for healthcare workers. Extreme failure to protect frontline workers.

tigger123

Was it confirmed 4 nurses have died?

Westernyelp

timmy_mallet wrote: »

Pick up yer easy singles, rub your ruddy Irish face with your thick fingers before you get the chance to wipe it clean. CORONA!

Apologies. I thought I was talking to an intelligent person. carry on.

Stheno

tigger123 wrote: »

Was it confirmed 4 nurses have died?

Nope

Strumms

Self publicity is all he is after. Like 90% of these attention seeking twatter merchants..an absolute dose... now really isn’t the time. Don’t retweet or share,starve him of the oxygen.

BrianD3

STB. wrote: »

Brian they are the same thing, however badly worded you think it is.

We have this thing called the English language where changing some words changes the meaning. No, "total...that have been" and "are currently" are absolutely not the same thing.

he even says it could have went up.

We know that, it's stating the obvious.

I posted the steady increase in ICU numbers a few posts before yours. Do you not understand their relevance. Do you think people are being admitted to ICU to get their teeth cleaned, off you go thanks a lot.

Spare me that rubbish.

We have 500 ICU beds in the whole country spread everywhere

We don't know how many beds there are. They keep fudging the number.

STB.

STB. wrote: »

Yes I watched it. What did you not understand ?

84. Yes that may have increased Holohan says.

Do you think they just go in for 24 hours and are released back somewhere else. There are currently 84 in ICU BEDS. There were 88 at the weekend.

The totals for ICU are the numbers in ICU at anyone time as a result of Covid19. These are the serious cases, Brian.

You are wrong, and you are getting angry about others correcting you.

Since the start every icu number given has been the total cumulative figure. This is clearly written in the reports and he clearly stated it tonight that 84 is the total number who have needed icu.

We have no idea of the number ICU tonight but it’s almost certainly less than the numbers stated as cumulative.

tigger123

Stheno wrote: »

Nope

Paddy Cosgrave seems to be implying that the HSE is suppressing this information. Can't see what they would have to gain by doing so.

STB.

GM228 wrote: »

Ok, so I had a typo for two days out of 31 (now corrected), the last officially reported and published numbers by the DoH are for up to the 28th and by the HPSC for up to the 29th which shows 79 ICU admissions as of the 29th, up from 77 on the 27th.

I'm not having a go. I just noticed GM, as I know it prompted more decisive action. There is genuine worry among frontline HSE staff at the rapid rise in ICU numbers in a week.

munsterlegend

tigger123 wrote: »

Paddy Cosgrave seems to be implying that the HSE is suppressing this information. Can't see what they would have to gain by doing so.

Well it’s hardly good for staff morale if it’s true. He is obviously getting his information from some source and would surely be certain before tweeting it.

Strazdas

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

I thought it was 11% tonight?

It was indeed 11% tonight : I think the stats guy said an average of 15% over the last five days

cnocbui

laurah591

caveat emptor wrote: »

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1244730196038647809?s=20

Is there any source for this? or additional knowledge

tigger123

munsterlegend wrote: »

Well it’s hardly good for staff morale if it’s true. He is obviously getting his information from some source and would surely be certain before tweeting it.

How could the HSE stop the nurses families from talking to the media, or talking on social media about what happened?

GM228

Strazdas wrote: »

It was indeed 11% tonight : I think the stats guy said an average of 15% over the last five days

11.28% tongiht.

I didn't give the average for the last 5 days, but it is currently 13.27% average for the last 5 days.

ZX7R

munsterlegend wrote: »

Well it’s hardly good for staff morale if it’s true. He is obviously getting his information from some source and would surely be certain before tweeting it.

A lot of his tweets have been less than fruitful lately

Strazdas

Strumms wrote: »

Self publicity is all he is after. Like 90% of these attention seeking twatter merchants..an absolute dose... now really isn’t the time. Don’t retweet or share,starve him of the oxygen.

He's bang out of order. He has no right to be using his Twitter account as a platform like this. The guy is an event organiser.....his constant attacks on the Govt and the HSE in the middle of a pandemic are a disgrace.

RiseAbove4

What age was the HSE worker who’s been confirmed as dead? And had they underlying conditions?

Also;

There needs to be one seperate thread focussing on daily numbers of deaths, cases, recoveries, ICU numbers etc

These main “just throw all the daily stuff in there, be grand” are an absolute clusterfùck of blurriness

The speed these threads move at is ridiculous and need to be split up into more seperate threads of discussion

Mervyn Skidmore

ZX7R wrote: »

A lot of his tweets have been less than fruitful lately

I did like his grovelling apology to Denis O'Brien.

STB.

Tanner Cold Needlepoint wrote: »

You are wrong, and you are getting angry about others correcting you.

Since the start every icu number given has been the total cumulative figure. This is clearly written in the reports and he clearly stated it tonight that 84 is the total number who have needed icu.

We have no idea of the number ICU tonight but it’s almost certainly less than the numbers stated as cumulative.

It is you that is wrong. The only number that the HSE are watching right now is the demands on ICU beds from Covid19 at that moment in time.

It is the number of Covid patients who need ICU beds at this moment in time. On the 20th it was 17. It has gradually increased to 88. Some died. It is now 84 in ICU receiving treatment. Critical cases.

"Have needed" Do you think people are turned around in 24 hours, off you go ? Let me spell it out for you.

Intensive Care Unit. Critical care. We have 500 ICU beds. 84 right now taken up by Covid19 patients. Other patients without Covid19 share ICU capacity out of the 500 beds available.



Don't respond again. You haven't a breeze.

1wizards sleeve

Strazdas wrote: »

He's bang out of order. He has no right to be using his Twitter account as a platform like this. The guy is an event organiser.....his constant attacks on the Govt and the HSE in the middle of a pandemic are a disgrace.

And everything he says getting retweeted by Luke Flanagan. Who for some reason seems annoyed at any positive news. His bias and hate for the government is very obvious which is no surprise. Nothing but negativity out of him..

Strumms

Strazdas wrote: »

He's bang out of order. He has no right to be using his Twitter account as a platform like this. The guy is an event organiser.....his constant attacks on the Govt and the HSE in the middle of a pandemic are a disgrace.

Absolutely, I’d be quite frankly having jack shït to do with him or his events carry on after this.

El Weirdo

STB. wrote: »

It is you that is wrong. The only number that the HSE are watching right now is the demands on ICU beds from Covid19 at that moment in time.

It is the number of Covid patients who need ICU beds at this moment in time. Last week it was 19. It has gradually increased to 88. Some died. It is now 84 in ICU receiving treatment. Critical cases.

"Have needed" Do you think people are turned around in 24 hours, off you go ? Let me spell it out for you.

Intensive Care Unit. Critical care. We have 500 ICU beds. 84 now taken up by Covid19. Other patients without Covid19 share ICU capacity out of this 500.



Don't respond again. You haven't a breeze.

Hospital statistics
Total number of cases 2475
Total number hospitalised 645
Total number admitted to ICU 84
Total number of deaths 44
Total number of healthcare workers 578
Number clusters notified 111
Median age 47

Total.

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/d0cf73-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-monday-30-m/#hospital-statistics

Doctor Jimbob

Can we have that Cosgrave clown's tweets banned from the thread?

coastwatch

STB. wrote: »

I'm not having a go. I just noticed GM, as I know it prompted more decisive action. There is genuine worry among frontline HSE staff at the rapid rise in ICU numbers in a week.

It's been widely reported that about 5% of covid 19 cases require intensive care treatment.
We currently have around 2850 active cases, so it shouldn't be any surprise if there was upwards of 140 in ICU.

1wizards sleeve

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Can we have that Cosgrave clown's tweets banned from the thread?

Exactly of all the people why are his tweets posted so much.

spookwoman

People complaining and yet were asking how many healthcare workers in icu etc the other day. :rolleyes:

Ace2007

tobefrank321 wrote: »

1. Ground flights
2. Ban public transport
3. Nursing home staff in full hazmats
4. Random temperature checks of people everywhere
5. Gardai informed of address of those who test positive and should be in self isolation. If found not to be at that address huge fine
6. Fines for those who break the 2km rule or socialising rules for no good reason.

That's 6.

Can you suggest 5?

If you ground all flights - that means no supplies getting into the country, it means no Irish abroad getting home - no Irish doctors/nurses able to return home - your ok with all these thought yea?

By banning all public transport - you stop essential workers from getting to work who don't drive - again are you ok with this? I'm not - I want them to get to work to serve our country.

Nursing home staff in full hazmats - is this to scare the life out of the residents - it is their home - it's a time when their families and friends can't visit them, and now you want them to think they are in some sci-fi film. Think about this - The sfaff themselves don't want this. As someone who has a loved one in a nursing home and who is paying for it - I don't my loved one thinking they are in a sci-fi movie and feeling scared.

Random temp checks on the street - who do you propose is going to carry out these random checks? If you have a temp - there is nothing wrong with going for a walk while in isolation.

You want to break GDPR and share medical history with the Garda - and what happens if this information become public, because Garda Paul told his wife, or put in Whatapp and gets round the neighbour - again are you ok with this?

There are people that won't pay TV licence - they aren't going to pay a fine.

You see you name 5/6 ideas which all can be easily challenged and are not practical.

Strazdas

Strumms wrote: »

Absolutely, I’d be quite frankly having jack shït to do with him or his events carry on after this.

It's really jarring to watch him attack the HSE and openly argue with individual health chiefs on Twitter. The tone is all wrong in the middle of a pandemic, it looks terrible.

Achasanai

Wolf359f wrote: »

Depends if he's on immune suppressents or if he's in remission.
But certainly the stress could bring on a flair up.
The immune suppressants would or can lead to more servere symptoms of covid.

I have a friend with the condition, and has it fairly mild (no serious flare-ups in years) and has been on immune-suppressants since diagnosis. I just assumed they all were, but maybe there are even milder cases which don't require drug therapies.

Dozyart

1wizards sleeve wrote: »

Exactly of all the people why are his tweets posted so much.

One poster has a particular large boner for his tweets!

kmart6

Mervyn Skidmore wrote: »

I did like his grovelling apology to Denis O'Brien.

What did he say?

Roger_007

I just watching Trump’s press conference. His hair seem to be trying to be ‘socially distant’ from him?

1wizards sleeve

1wizards sleeve wrote: »

And everything he says getting retweeted by Luke Flanagan. Who for some reason seems annoyed at any positive news. His bias and hate for the government is very obvious which is no surprise. Nothing but negativity out of him..

The same could be said for about 90% of the posts on here.

STB.

El Weirdo wrote: »

Total.

https://www.gov.ie/en/press-release/d0cf73-statement-from-the-national-public-health-emergency-team-monday-30-m/#hospitalised-cases-by-age-group

Total number admitted to ICU 84.

Total number. Anyone in ICU at that moment in time is those "admitted". The numbers will only decrease if someone recovers or dies. The numbers decreased in ICU today by 4, from yesterdays 88.

COVID cases

20th March 17 cases in ICU
24th March 47 cases in ICU
25th March 59 cases in ICU
26th March 67 cases in ICU
27th March 77 cases in ICU
28th March 84 cases in ICU
29th March 88 cases in ICU
30th March 84 cases in ICU

1wizards sleeve

Dozyart wrote: »

One poster has a particular large boner for his tweets!

It must be love love love. Nothing more nothing less ,love is the best

Mervyn Skidmore

kmart6 wrote: »

What did he say?

He backtracked on something he had said and obviously got a letter threatening legal action. The he came out with a fawning apology and stated how great O'Brien was for his generous donations.

JP Liz V1

Heighway61 wrote: »

This lack of testing really has become a serious problem.

My wife is a health care worker and was called by her manager to say that one of her clients has tested positive. He told her there was no need for her to get tested as she isn't showing symptoms. A number of home help workers also had contact with this client. They all are to continue working as normal. Work, I might add, she has been carrying out without PPE, including hand sanitiser. She finished the 100ml bottle they gave her last week.

So, my wife who:

has had contact with a confirmed case
is a health care worker
has a spouse (me) at home with cancer

is not eligible for testing?

She called the number for HSE staff who said the same, no symptoms - no test. They gave her a local staff number. They said the same but to contact her GP. Eh, right.

Simon Coveney was tested in similar circumstances, i.e contact with confirmed positive carrier, surely health care workers should get priority

An Ciarraioch

Looks like Claire Byrne's still in the shed tonight.

irishlad.

Spain's updated figures for today:

New cases: 7,846
New Deaths: 913

Doctor Jimbob

Doctor Jimbob wrote: »

Can we have that Cosgrave clown's tweets banned from the thread?

Why?

They arent to best of my knowledge infactual.




He's a gowl like,but so long as not lying,provides a different perspective and surely should be respected for such??

Ulysses Gaze

This Cosgrave fella is going to torpedo any future business he wants to do in Ireland, in the future, with his witless stupidity.

He's a grade A clown.

fin12

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8167143/Husband-69-accused-Britains-self-isolation-murder.html

So sad. Hope everyone living in abusive households gets through this and survives.

woohoo!!!

1wizards sleeve wrote: »

And everything he says getting retweeted by Luke Flanagan. Who for some reason seems annoyed at any positive news. His bias and hate for the government is very obvious which is no surprise. Nothing but negativity out of him..

I've both blocked

owlbethere

Will Friday nights late late show be live from Ryan's shed?

Mervyn Skidmore

An Ciarraioch wrote: »

Looks like Claire Byrne's still in the shed tonight.

Any sign of Marty Morrissey in there with her?

Arghus

One in four cases require hospitalisation? Yikes that's a bit scary. Is there anything skewing that figure.

New Home

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

I'm healed!

You still look a bit green around the gills...

gozunda

Mwengwe wrote: »

Why is this not emphasised more? i've googled it a few times and all I find is 'coughing or sneezing spreads it, not airborne'. I mean I've really searched specifically for 'can you spread it just by breathing?'. This information isn't out there. Unless you watch Joe Rogan, it seems...

Droplet transmission...

https://medium.com/@Cancerwarrior/covid-19-why-we-should-all-wear-masks-there-is-new-scientific-rationale-280e08ceee71