CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

poppers

RobertKK wrote: »

Now many clusters in nursing homes.

But the nursing homes didnt lift the visiting restrictions so unfortunately staff must have brought in in.

El Weirdo

Stheno wrote: »

I think they broadened the criteria that they use to report deaths today, e.g. including non hospital deaths such as nursing home deaths

NHS England said those who died were all in hospital and their ages ranged from 19 to 98. All but 28 of the patients had underlying health conditions. The 28 who did not were aged between 19 and 91.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/31/uk-coronavirus-live-ons-death-toll-covid-19-latest

bekker

magma69 wrote: »

All the doom mongers did overnight PhDs in medicine and virology.

The appropriate speciality would be epidemiology.

TheAsYLuMkeY

yourdeadwright wrote: »

Come on now you know I was in no way trying to lessen a person's death,

Just by the sheer numbers there will always be people out side of the normal age range,

Of course your hearth still goes out to the girl and her family, but no need to cause unjust panic,

BanditLuke wrote: »

Ah here now there is no need for that, you know what the poster meant no need for grandstanding.

I will accept what you both said.

People do however need to up their level of care in general around this.

kilkenny31

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

Pity this 12 year old with her life ahead of her ends up as being refereed to as an 'outlier'

But it is and its going to be used by people to instill fear in other people. Young people thankfully for the most part unaffected by this virus and that needs to be said.

JP Liz V1

spookwoman wrote: »

WTF is wrong with people
Gardaí stop woman with Covid-19 out posting letters

Gardaí were left shocked after discovering a woman posting a letter who had tested positive for Covid-19.

The worrying incident happened recently in the south of the country.

Gardaí operating a checkpoint stopped a car and asked a couple why they were out, bearing in mind the current restrictions on travel.....

The female passenger present informed gardaí that she had been recently diagnosed as Covid-19 positive.

https://www.irishexaminer.com/breakingnews/ireland/gardai-stop-woman-with-covid-19-out-posting-letters-991239.html

OMG WTF

Stheno

El Weirdo wrote: »

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/mar/31/uk-coronavirus-live-ons-death-toll-covid-19-latest

Wow that's a huge rise if that's the case.

Dreadful

podgeandrodge

Seamai wrote: »

If a person is on medication to keep their blood pressure under control does this lower their risk?

I hope so!!

Harry Palmr

Stheno wrote: »

Wow that's a huge rise if that's the case.

Dreadful

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How far is the UK estimated to be from the likely peak? Same as us or earlier?

RobertKK

poppers wrote: »

But the nursing homes didnt lift the visiting restrictions so unfortunately staff must have brought in in.

Yes but the people doing the official recommendations didn't see it fit to support the measures the nursing homes group told their members to make, I don't know if it covered all or some nursing homes.
But if the nursing homes group had waited for official recommendations it would be far worse.

tobefrank321

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Good to hear. Look at this for nitpicking:

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1244962521678860288?s=21

The guy is trying desperately to stay relevant. I guess the fact there will be no web summit this year means he's time on his hands.

podgeandrodge

ShayNanigan wrote: »

It's not getting worse but it's not getting better either. Temperature constantly around 37 to 37.4 so nothing big but still enough to make me feel unwell. Also headache, lung pain occasionally. Chest tightness and feeling of not being able to breath properly is slowly getting better. I don't know what this is but it is annoying.

a lot of stuff floating around, and it's pretty much impossible to tell what you've got so you just have to live with it. I had cough/sore throat but it could have been any number of 'normal' things so no point in obsessing over it (but I did a bit when I had it!).

Your temperature looks normal, unless I've got my figures wrong.

wakka12

I cant believe the scale of death across Europe today, 1500 already before France or Italy even announce, Spain and Germany have only updated once also

Away With The Fairies

I'm fed up trying to prepare my food in an aseptic manner. Opening fridge, wash hands, open press, wash hands, get plate and cutlery, wash hands.

sheepsh4gger

walshb wrote: »

UK hot hard today according to reports.....Almost 400 deaths, is this right?

It's fake news.
People who already wrecked their health by eating McDonalds and smoking shouldn't be counted.

cnocbui

Logan Roy wrote: »

Are you addicted to misery or what's the story ?

Do you gain any particular benefit from living the life of an ostrich and being constantly shielded from the reality?

Tacitus Kilgore

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I'm fed up trying to prepare my food in an aseptic manner. Opening fridge, wash hands, open press, wash hands, get plate and cutlery, wash hands.

Pointless.




You're forgetting to wash your hands after washing your hands.

cnocbui

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I'm fed up trying to prepare my food in an aseptic manner. Opening fridge, wash hands, open press, wash hands, get plate and cutlery, wash hands.

Do have no control over the comings and goings in your household?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Uh, don't say that. It would expose the virus as a hoax.
By the way regular influenza is much more dangerous.

What?

2lazytogetup

22 clusters in nursing homes according to

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0330/1127300-coronavirus-analysis-ireland-cases/

can anyone advise why the high number in nursing homes relative to the population. there are about 460 nursing homes in ireland.

is it possible that 5% of the population generally have got it or had it but most people just never noticed or felt like they had a mild cold???

Professor Moriarty

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Uh, don't say that. It would expose the virus as a hoax.
By the way regular influenza is much more dangerous.

Do you live under a bridge?

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I'm fed up trying to prepare my food in an aseptic manner. Opening fridge, wash hands, open press, wash hands, get plate and cutlery, wash hands.

Unless you have a fumehood or bunsen burner, you can’t keep things aseptic. If you thoroughly clean your hands entering the house, normal house cleanliness should be just fine.

sheepsh4gger

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Do you live under a bridge?

I'm not an NPC that listens to fear mongering from mainstream media.

cnocbui

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Unless you have a fumehood or bunsen burner, you can’t keep things aseptic. If you thoroughly clean your hands entering the house, normal house cleanliness should be fine.

I would add to that, wipe down your shopping before putting it away and then wash your hands one final time, then life as normal.

Professor Moriarty

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

I'm not an NPC that listens to fear mongering from mainstream media.

Nuff said.

wakka12

2lazytogetup wrote: »

22 clusters in nursing homes according to

https://www.rte.ie/news/coronavirus/2020/0330/1127300-coronavirus-analysis-ireland-cases/

can anyone advise why the high number in nursing homes relative to the population. there are about 460 nursing homes in ireland.

is it possible that 5% of the population generally have got it or had it but most people just never noticed or felt like they had a mild cold???

Yeh it would seem like thats the case, probably around 5% of the population does already have it, tests on random hospital patients in Belgium showed a figure around that size. But dormitory shared living spaces will always be breeding grounds, look at prisons as another example, so many breakouts there, so that probably further exaggerates it

cnocbui

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Uh, don't say that. It would expose the virus as a hoax.
By the way regular influenza is much more dangerous.

How do you reach that controversial conclusion?

Professor Moriarty

wakka12 wrote: »

Yeh it would seem like thats the case, probably around 5% of the population does already have it, tests on random hospital patients in Belgium showed a figure around that size. But dormitory shared living spaces will always be breeding grounds, look at prisons as another example, so many breakouts there, so that probably further exaggerates it

Stats based on random testing of hospital patients can't be extrapolated to the general population.

sheepsh4gger

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Nuff said.

They will always play up anything happening as if it's the end of the world. It's all about click revenue. Sensationalism.

saabsaab

sheepsh4gger wrote: »

Uh, don't say that. It would expose the virus as a hoax.
By the way regular influenza is much more dangerous.

Either trolling or head so deep in the sand that your ass is also covered.

2lazytogetup

wakka12 wrote: »

Yeh it would seem like thats the case, probably around 5% of the population does already have it, tests on random hospital patients in Belgium showed a figure around that size. But dormitory shared living spaces will always be breeding grounds, look at prisons as another example, so many breakouts there, so that probably further exaggerates it

Thanks Wakka, that makes sense, i appreciate that input.

devnull

Another reduction in deaths and cases in Lombardy, looks like it really is flattening.

Pencil Neck

Big jump in UK deaths

A Dub in Glasgo

The breakdown across the UK

spookwoman

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Good to hear. Look at this for nitpicking:

https://twitter.com/paddycosgrave/status/1244962521678860288?s=21

Didn't someone say here the other day they knew one of the people who had died and that they were a nurse

Away With The Fairies

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I'm fed up trying to prepare my food in an aseptic manner. Opening fridge, wash hands, open press, wash hands, get plate and cutlery, wash hands.

Why are you doing all that? Once in your home should be no need for that sort of thing. Once home I only wash hands as normal (I.e. after toilet, preparing raw meat or if actually dirty).

2lazytogetup

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Stats based on random testing of hospital patients can't be extrapolated to the general population.

it was more the nursing homes rather than hospitals that i was wondering about. thoughts??

caveat emptor

So we have a three body problem.

• paddy C
• HSE
• irish times

HSE say no deaths
https://twitter.com/HSELive/status/1244942663142563841?s=20
Irish Times have report on one last Friday.
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/health/coronavirus-healthcare-worker-in-republic-dies-after-contracting-virus-1.4213892
Paddy C (aka devil) said there were four.


1, 2 or all 3 are lying / misinformed.
HSE wording seems suspect.
I wouldn't think a newspaper would getting something so inflammatory wrong.

Who knows.

#notpaddy
#comebackstronger

bekker

World-wide COVID-19 deaths/resolved = 32582/197148 = 16.53%.

Lovely charts and graphs as usual.
guardian.co.uk, based on John Hopkins University 30th March

Usual caveats,
confirmed < > infected
confirmed totally inconsistent metric across countries and time
confirmed deaths from COVID-19 <> total deaths attributable to COVID-19

TheAsYLuMkeY

Obvious Desperate Breakfasts wrote: »

Unless you have a fumehood or bunsen burner, you can’t keep things aseptic. If you thoroughly clean your hands entering the house, normal house cleanliness should be fine.

But the one i would say people are going to get caught out on, is your products you buy in shop were shelf stacked most likely that day.

If the shelf stacker has been coughing, sneezing, wiping their snout with there hands and then stacking its on your packaging.

Before anything enters my house, every thing is wiped down and cleaned in the garden and transferred into a know clean bag from the house.

My clothes are deposited in a box in the porch before i go in to shower.

Steve F

devnull wrote: »

Another reduction in deaths and cases in Lombardy, looks like it really is flattening.

Bloody Marvelous

It can and will be defeated

Professor Moriarty

2lazytogetup wrote: »

it was more the nursing homes rather than hospitals that i was wondering about. thoughts??

Sorry, what's the question?

devnull

Latest Lombardy Figures

New Deaths 381, down from 458 yesterday.
New Cases 1047, down from 1154 yesterday

Curve is seemingly flattening there.

wakka12

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Stats based on random testing of hospital patients can't be extrapolated to the general population.

Why not..? It was patients who had come into hospital for reasons unrelated to COVID, car crash, heart attack, etc.

ThePopehimself

I sometimes wonder at some of the people I share the planet with…

Covid-19: Irish family stranded in Peru enjoy kindness of strangers
The Irish Times


So Christina Park, her husband and their two boys were "enjoying a year-long South American adventure" when the Peruvian government announced a complete lockdown.

“Dreams of continuing to Machu Picchu, Lake Titicaca and the Atacama Desert evaporated”.

News - of a Global Pandemic - seemed “very distant” until the sudden crackdown. :rolleyes:

“With very few reported cases in South America, we felt we had weeks before movement might be restricted.
The couple were ‘bemused’ when they saw their Staff at their hotel in Ecuador wearing surgical masks. Their main worry?... “That it might frighten the children,” she said.:rolleyes:

In the beginning, Ms Park said she had mentioned to a local that people in Ireland and France were being told that they could go for a walk as long as they did not come close to other people .
“We don’t have the health system they have,” replied the local. “If you had the situation here that you have ... it would be chaos.”

The family were on Sunday's repatriation flight.

https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/covid-19-irish-family-stranded-in-peru-enjoy-kindness-of-strangers-1.4214116

Snow Garden

India handling this very badly.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/30/india-wracked-by-greatest-exodus-since-partition-due-to-coronavirus

josip

TheAsYLuMkeY wrote: »

I have a 3M respirator mask in the car similar to the one Wibbs posted a pic of that he has some time back, protective eye wear and Vinyl gloves.

If I encounter a checkpoint I will signal for them to wait one minute, put on my mask, glasses and gloves and then engage with them.

I've a balaclava.

devnull

UK cases up 3,009

Shelly66

Parents act responsibly please for sake of your kids. Just walked dog along Fairview and park full of people. Ok if doing your daily walk but there are families with kids at skateboard area bikes skateboards all playing, touching railings etc on it . Others in groups playing basketball. Can they not cop on too the new restrictions and how important it is for everyone to play their part

Professor Moriarty

wakka12 wrote: »

Why not..? It was patients who had come into hospital for reasons unrelated to COVID, car crash, heart attack, etc.

Because many of them are already immunocompromised due to their injuries/conditions. Plus a hospitals are hotspots due to healthcare workers being much more exposed to the virus.