CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

Cork Boy 53

CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »

51 times a day i believe (each state updates separately then there's a national update)

The current figure on worldometers reflect 19 states.

So it`s just once a day for the national figure then?

spookwoman

wonski wrote: »

Same amount of people do nothing at all and act like it's all fun.

That's the reality.

See it every day at work. Not a bother for 9 out of 10. Nor at all.

House opposite me is not bothering.

Tell me how

paleoperson wrote: »

Let them do the same and absolve themselves, it won't make any difference to the spread of the virus. Besides they don't know where I'm going, for all they know I'm heading off to the groceries.

I think people should concentrate on actual ways they could potentially spread or pick up the virus.

It's like the sentence in bold was written by a different person when compared to what came before it.

Honestly, I would call you selfish, but it seems you don't have the capacity to understand the implications of your behavior.

DOCARCH

Just Saying wrote: »

If you go to the Worldometer site and click on USA you will see which states have reported today.Some report a couple of times a day.

I think New York may even update every hour, or at least several times a day?

Duke of Url

German scientists have developed a coronavirus testing method that could increase test capacity tenfold

https://edition.cnn.com/world/live-news/coronavirus-pandemic-03-31-20/h_c9b8259b105b4f26a4ade9fb61b954ce

German scientists have developed a method that could dramatically increase the capacity to test for coronavirus, the Science Ministry of the German State of Hessen says.

The new method allows for several samples to be evaluated at once, the Ministry wrote in a press release, adding that this will allow for an “increase in the test capacity in Germany from about 40,000 tests per day to about 200,000 to 400,000 tests per day without any loss of quality in the diagnostics.”

Normally, the various swabs taken during currents tests from the mouth and nose area and all separately evaluated. With the new method, scientists put several of the probes into a single, special solution and test them with the so-called PCR method, which directly detects the SARS-CoV-2 genome. If the total result is negative, then it is clear that the separate swabs are all negative, the press release says and adds, “if the result is positive, then all the swabs have to be evaluated separately.

Away With The Fairies

otnomart wrote: »

Sorry to hear about your reckless flatmate.
I raised earlier the issue that (despite Ireland having a low density) Dublin as London as a high percentage of accomodation sharing (compared to other European cities), and it is not easy at all to social distance in a house share.

I don't understand it. It's mostly cop on and I don't have a degree in microbiology. Why does it seem difficult to some people?

Dayor Knight

wonski wrote: »

We have no lockdown.

Just some people working from home.

The rest walking around and driving around.

Lockdown lol...

Where do you live?

Where I am there's almost nobody on the streets. And we're not having a total lockdown - everyone is expected to stay inside except for essential trips, and exercise. So there will be a small number of people out, validly, at any one time.

wonski

spookwoman wrote: »

House opposite me is not bothering.

100's people around me are not bothering.

I don't know where people see compliance...

josip

Hector Savage wrote: »

The fact that it looks like Wimbledon will be cancelled shows the reality of the length of these shutdowns.

Wimbledon cancellation means still in lockdown in July!!!

Christ....

They might well be then, but Wimbledon doesn't just happen at the end of June.
It probably takes a full 2 months to get the venue ready.
Customers of ours who are responsible for phone signal are usually on site from 4 weeks beforehand.

spookwoman

DOCARCH wrote: »

I think New York may even update every hour, or at least several times a day?

I've noticed it updates a few times a day at the moment it has been a few times this hour

CIARAN_BOYLE

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

So it`s just once a day for the national figure then?

Yeah but places like worldometers will show the state totals so far as the USA total.

Jim_Hodge

yourdeadwright wrote: »

I cant wait to just give the aul pair a hug and sit down for a natter with a cup of coffee and scone with them ,Honestly it'll bring tears to see them get to hug there grand kids again ,

How we wish we could see and hug our grandchildren! This is the only thing we've struggled with through the past few weeks.

Strazdas

wonski wrote: »

We have no lockdown.

Just some people working from home.

The rest walking around and driving around.

Lockdown lol...

It doesn't matter what it's called. Ireland's version is on a par with most of the very restrictive ones (what's going on in Italy and Spain is off the scale compared to most countries).

frillyleaf

DOCARCH wrote: »

Just listening to Drivetime on RTE radio. Seems to be pretty serious issues with testing in this country with test centres closing due to faulty test kits/lack of test kits and then big backlog in analysing the tests that are actually carried out.

As positive as I’m trying to be this doesn’t surprise me

New Home

Deleted User wrote: »

The article does mention coughs and sneezes in relation to this distance though, as well as a warm & moist atmosphere as a medium. An 8 metre rule for distancing would be simply unworkable unfortunately.

Do you know what would help reducing the spread? MASKS.

paleoperson wrote: »

Anyone else get triggered when they give statistics about how it's mostly people with "underlying conditions"? It just seems like they're saying "oh it won't affect me, sod those people". There's something a bit nasty about the way they do it. As if "it's ok guys, they had underlying conditions".

These people they're talking about are perfectly healthy with decades of high quality life expectancy left who have "underlying conditions". Dismissing it as "underlying conditions" because you happen to have asthma, heart disease, diabetes is so crass. Who doesn't have "underlying conditions".

I hope people without underlying conditions get it just as much. It's good news for people without other conditions, bad news for those with them.

I completely disagree with your "I'm going to disregard the 2km rule" post, but I completely agree with this one.

spookwoman wrote: »

Didn't someone say here the other day they knew one of the people who had died and that they were a nurse

I think the authorities are playing with semantics: it could have been a healthcare assistant who passed away instead of a nurse (similar in the sense that both care for a patient, but they're very different roles).

kilkenny31 wrote: »

Yes but we had a liberal approach and it done us a lot of good. See our day on day increases now a fraction of what they were. We are not Italy or Spain we don't live staked on top of each other in apartments.

Newsflash - lots of the red areas in Italy aren't large cities, they're towns with detached houses.

Vo', for instance.

wonski

Dayor Knight wrote: »

Where do you live?

Where I am there's almost nobody on the streets. And we're not having a total lockdown - everyone is expected to stay inside except for essential trips, and exercise. So there will be a small number of people out, validly, at any one time.

Good for you.

What I see outside is a joke. Centra being a hot spot. There are families sitting around having chat regularly outside. With other families.

bodhrandude

Is the update in new cases at 7 PM again.

Just Saying

DOCARCH wrote: »

I think New York may even update every hour, or at least several times a day?

Yes.Their main report often coincides with the Governor's press conference.I think the public/private hospitals may have different reporting times or maybe its certain hospital groups that report differently.

In any event if you look at what the any individual state reported yesterday you will have a fair idea if they have fully reported for the day.

ZX7R

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In my opinion there is no possibility of the restrictions being lifted for several months.

UK eyeing 6 months, Italy eyeing June. Most governments are simply not telling people the truth in relation to that.

This "two weeks" stuff, "Easter", "end of April" - that's all completely unrealistic.

Open up and we'll be locked down again with an explosion in cases within days.

In that way we are effectively trapped until we have a vaccine.

If you look at Italy for example and the horror they go through - it's flattening out for them but that's only because they have placed an artificial lid on it through a lockdown.

As I said before it's like a pressure cooker - remove the lid and undo everything.

We need a proven tested vaccine ultimately.

It will simply not possible to go indefinitely with the current restrictions that are Imposed.
There will be some form of restrictions for the foreseeable future but not what we have know

Pablo Escobar

wonski wrote: »

Good for you.

What I see outside is a joke. Centra being a hot spot. There are families sitting around having chat regularly outside. With other families.

Ridiculous. Tbf where I am I can only see compliance, which I’m amazed at given the last few weeks it seemed like people were incapable.

Hector Savage

On Italy, deaths still bad but new cases are dropping ....

from the last few days ...

26/3/2020 6153 662
27/3/2020 5909 919
28/3/2020 5974 889
29/3/2020 5217 756
30/3/2020 4050 812
31/3/2020 4053 837




sorry for the sh!t formatting

Kermit.de.frog

New York's Governor Cuomo says they have seen the biggest surge in the rate of hospitalisations in the last 24 hours.

Meanwhile

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1244977299486883840

That's the level

Just Saying

Cork Boy 53 wrote: »

So it`s just once a day for the national figure then?

The national figure is the running total of the individual states and it's near midnight our time before you will have an accurate day on day figure.

Even at that a change in reporting time can result in some states reporting twice in a 24 hour period and some might miss the 24 hour window.

Professor Moriarty

ZX7R wrote: »

It will simply not possible to go indefinitely with the current restrictions that are Imposed.
There will be some form of restrictions for the foreseeable future but not what we have know

Best hope is a cheap and readily available test that shows if you have had the virus. Then hope that humans can't be reinfected by Covid-19.

JP Liz V1

103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients

spookwoman

Some good news

https://twitter.com/thejournal_ie/status/1245028330723631104?s=20

JP Liz V1

849 deaths in Spain today

Professor Moriarty

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients

133 according to the IT.

ChikiChiki

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

I don't understand it. It's mostly cop on and I don't have a degree in microbiology. Why does it seem difficult to some people?

Quite a high % of people are incapable of thinking for themselves outside the realms of basics.

By nature most people are sheep who need to be led.

wonski

wonski wrote: »

Good for you.

What I see outside is a joke. Centra being a hot spot. There are families sitting around having chat regularly outside. With other families.

I would say 100% compliance here where I am in a very built up part of Drogheda. I really dont understand this "people still out partying" stuff.... really?

Anywhere I have gone is eerily quiet, no kids out at all and there are 900 houses in my estate. I think people have really copped on .

I would also say that telling people they can only exercise within 2km means there WILL be a lot of people out in built up areas, you cant avoid it. For that reason I dont think the 2km rule has been thought through.

Away With The Fairies

ZX7R wrote: »

It will simply not possible to go indefinitely with the current restrictions that are Imposed.
There will be some form of restrictions for the foreseeable future but not what we have know

Our hospitals are almost at breaking point with over 120 cases in ICU. Italy has over 4000 in a serious/critical condition.

There will be more restrictions. For how long, I don't know.

rossie1977

JP Liz V1 wrote: »

103 in ICU as of yesterday in ROI according to Virgin Media News and that some private hospitals have already been treating public patients

Its only a matter of time before a stay at home order is enforced for everyone.

TheAsYLuMkeY

wonski wrote: »

We have no lockdown.

Just some people working from home.

The rest walking around and driving around.

Lockdown lol...

No lockdown, tell me any time you have seen temple bar like this at any time of day or night.

https://www.earthcam.com/world/ireland/dublin/?cam=templebar

The cities pigeons must be lepping with the hunger

Lillyfae

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

How we wish we could see and hug our grandchildren! This is the only thing we've struggled with through the past few weeks.

If it’s any consolation, your children and grandchildren feel the same and are thinking of you. My boyfriends mother was on the phone a few hours begging to drop “something small” off outside and he had to get really tough with her about the reality of the situation. It was heartbreaking for all of us, but she’s taking too many risks and needed to hear it.

We miss her madly, but we also want her to be here for cuddles and chats and cups of tea when this is all over.

BLIZZARD7

Mortality rate in Italy is now 11.7%.

frillyleaf

DOCARCH wrote: »

Fergal Bowers said this morning that it's the number of hospital and ICU admissions (and deaths) that needs to be focused on (rather than the number of confirmed cases, due to issues with the tests/getting test results).

Yes this is what I think is more important as testing will differ depending on how tests are being carried out and what criteria. It’s the ability our hospitals have to treat the patients that is more important as opposed to the amount of people testing positive ( in my opinion)

Palmach

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Our hospitals are almost at breaking point with over 120 cases in ICU. Italy has over 4000 in a serious/critical condition.

There will be more restrictions. For how long, I don't know.

Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

Stheno

Palmach wrote: »

Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

Why not?

Kermit.de.frog

John Oliver is gas on this

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ElIf2DBrWzU

Inquitus

BLIZZARD7 wrote: »

Mortality rate in Italy is now 11.7%.

The Global CFR is 4.93% based off WorldOMeter

frillyleaf

Lillyfae wrote: »

If it’s any consolation, your children and grandchildren feel the same and are thinking of you. My boyfriends mother was on the phone a few hours begging to drop “something small” off outside and he had to get really tough with her about the reality of the situation. It was heartbreaking for all of us, but she’s taking too many risks and needed to hear it.

We miss her madly, but we also want her to be here for cuddles and chats and cups of tea when this is all over.

What do you mean to drop something small? Are you restricting drawings etc going into the house? I would have liked to do that for older relations but I’m nervous sending pages or anything the virus could live on to their house

josip

Away With The Fairies wrote: »

Our hospitals are almost at breaking point with over 120 cases in ICU. Italy has over 4000 in a serious/critical condition.

There will be more restrictions. For how long, I don't know.

They are not "almost at breaking point".
Do you even know how many ICU beds there are in Ireland?

beolight

stephenjmcd wrote: »

Why ? If your in your own house theres absolutely no need to be doing this.

All you need to do is wash your hands regularly especially after coming in from outside. But you dont need to wash them each time you touch something in the house, just pointless

OCD on speed

Imagine what would happen if the housemate appears out of his bedroom ....And just takes a cup out of the press .....fills the kettle ....turns the kettle on ...takes milk out of fridge ....takes teabag out of tea jar makes cup of tea

Professor Moriarty

Palmach wrote: »

Unlikely. Things seem to be improving. I for one think we are restricted enough and will not be complying with further unnecessary restrictions.

Well done. You know best.

BLIZZARD7

Inquitus wrote: »

The Global CFR is 4.93% based off WorldOMeter

Yep and increasing, it was 3.4% back in February.

BanditLuke

Dayor Knight wrote: »

Where do you live?

Where I am there's almost nobody on the streets. And we're not having a total lockdown - everyone is expected to stay inside except for essential trips, and exercise. So there will be a small number of people out, validly, at any one time.

This is the same as my area D14. Very few people out and about.

cloudatlas

As I suspected, they are just kids https://www.irishtimes.com/life-and-style/abroad/irish-doctors-return-from-australia-you-don-t-run-away-from-things-like-this-1.4213048

'Speaking about working as a doctor during the coronavirus crisis she said there was some fear. However, “it’s drummed into you in medical school, you don’t run away from things like this,” she said.'

It's a wonder no irony is found in the statement above with reference to the Australian hospitals they've abandoned.

I know I'll get heat for this but I think what they've done is unethical and is based on a misplaced sense of nationalism which has caused them to abandon their colleagues in a crisis. I'm surprised that they weren't challenged by the journalist who interviewed them.

Doctor working in Perth wrote to the Irish times stating that 60% of the medical staff on shift were Irish, he said he thought their decision was not conscionable. https://www.irishtimes.com/opinion/letters/coronavirus-a-worldwide-crisis-1.4208156)

They are choosing who to treat based on nationality.

I don't think the medical board in Australia should rehire people who abandon their post during a crisis.

rossie1977

Just watching a few documentaries on how the Chinese dealt with containing virus on YouTube.

We are seriously half assing it in the west. The amount of work and volunteers the Chinese used and they went door to door calling on homes and disinfecting everywhere (and anybody that's ever been in a Chinese city knows most live in huge highrises with multiple homes per floor).

Kermit.de.frog

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

In my opinion there is no possibility of the restrictions being lifted for several months.

UK eyeing 6 months, Italy eyeing June. Most governments are simply not telling people the truth in relation to that.

This "two weeks" stuff, "Easter", "end of April" - that's all completely unrealistic.

Open up and we'll be locked down again with an explosion in cases within days.

In that way we are effectively trapped until we have a vaccine.

If you look at Italy for example and the horror they go through - it's flattening out for them but that's only because they have placed an artificial lid on it through a lockdown.

As I said before it's like a pressure cooker - remove the lid and undo everything.

We need a proven tested vaccine ultimately.

I disagree. The UK said that some kind of social distancing would be required for 6 months. Personally I think that will mean that retail reopens with distancing principles applied, cafes and restaurants reopen with rules on spacing of tables, non essential businesses reopen but working from home is still recommended for office workers, and places that promote social gatherings will remain closed (ie pubs are shut and sport is behind closed doors). Travel around the country will be relaxed so people can go to beaches and parks again. Gatherings of greater than x people will be prohibited and can be closed down by the police. And periodically we might see tightening again for periods of a couple of weeks

iamwhoiam

Jim_Hodge wrote: »

How we wish we could see and hug our grandchildren! This is the only thing we've struggled with through the past few weeks.

Same here , I am really struggling not seeing the grandchildren . Skype and Facetime are helping us