CoVid19 Part XII - 4,604 in ROI (137 deaths) 998 in NI (56 deaths)(04/04) **Read OP**

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leavingirl wrote: »

Slowly, slowly the world is waking up

https://www.skynews.com.au/details/_6145949551001

Goodbye Rosie, the Queen of Corona

Get people indoors by any means necessary.

Talisman

OscarMIlde wrote: »

It most likely wasn't a PR exercise. They likely thought they had the resources (scientists/equipment) to do this but is now not possible due to the worldwide shortage in RNA extraction kits.

De Gascun was straight up saying the scaled up test levels was a target for mid to late April. The following day, Simon Harris went on national radio and said 15,000 tests in the next couple of days.

Whatever about calling it PR, there has been a pattern of managing news cycles by dropping headline grabbing numbers at appropriate times. The 15,000 tests number, the 500 ICU beds, the 5,000 tests a day numbers are each examples of that.

ninebeanrows

Trump is some light entertainment in tumultious times

Gods Gift

Cheap oil.
Gasoline 99cents a gallon. Yeeeeeeehaaaaawww

owlbethere

Spanish Eyes wrote: »

At this stage I really wonder if a presser every day is absolutely necessary. We know generally how this is going to go, and hopefully it will be positive, but obviously will also be negative for many, but I'm sure you get my drift.

Same old questions from journos ( the questions seem to be longer than the answers, I cannot understand that, ask a fk question and wait for the answer), but I digress.

A recorded statement would be best. If anything worse happens and we need to be told, OK, say it.

This constant NEED for updates every day, what time is it, when will they tell us and so on doesn't mean those doing the hard graft HAVE to be live and answering the same questions every day either. Give them a break.

I was thinking the exact same. They have been so good explaining to the public what this is, and what's involved, what's coming, whats needed. They have been so so so good. They need to go home and rest and sleep and mind themselves. If there's anything else to tell us, they will let us know.

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Gods Gift wrote: »

Cheap oil.
Gasoline 99cents. Yeeeeeeehaaaaawww

The states will be delighted with the lower incineration costs.

Serious death toll projections coming out there, could be a tragedy over there matching Spanish Flu or worse.

kenmc

frillyleaf wrote: »

Is there even immunity one you’ve gotten this virus ? I thought that was still being questioned

That's why my first line said that the best hope is that recovered people are indeed immune. If that's not true, we're completely Fcuked, capital F and all.

Kermit.de.frog

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1245105781046902790

owlbethere

What is the outcome for people who would survive ICU?

JP Liz V1

LaptopGremlin wrote: »

Via JRE I've been following primarily of guru on all things bacterial and viral infections based - Dr Michael Osterholm who runs the website,

http://www.cidrap.umn.edu/about-us/cidrap-staff/michael-t-osterholm-phd-mph

Hydroxychlororquine will apparently come to light efficacy wise in about 6 to 10 weeks.

It the fews weeks of circulation thus far, not quite the miracle cure we may have hoped, but a potential weapon in the tool bag - how effective a weapon, clinical trials lasting 6 to 10 weeks will offer better clarity.

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OscarMIlde

amadangomor wrote: »

These would not be scalable to carry out mass testing. They are to run limited experiments on.

I can assure you they are the exact same type of machines that diagnostic labs use. I've worked in both.

Gods Gift

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1245105781046902790

Trump probably thinking that graph is a before and after of a boob job

deisedevil

Ace2007 wrote: »

Testing is a world wide issue not limited to Ireland.

But again you fail to understand, if say 500 people over the age of 80 get the virus - it's safe to say without knowing about their general health a large % of them are going to require hospital treatment and some ICU and some will sadly pass away.

If you take 500 people in their 40's the number that will go into hospital is lower, the number needing ICU will be low, and even less will pay away.

So unless you have a breakdown of the age and where the person got the virus from you can't really take anything from the number in ICU, some nursing homes in Dublin have 150+ residents - wouldn't take much of an outbreak to fill hospital ICU beds in a Dublin hospital for instance.

But that's just it. Once our ICU capacity is reached then we will start to see a huge increase in deaths.

Some people are fixated on how many are testing positive, which at the minute is pointless. The number we should be watching and worrying about is how many are requiring ICU. Once this starts to increase rapidly our hospitals will be overwhelmed and we will start to see a huge rise in deaths. Same as Italy and same as Spain. So my point is to ignore the positive cases number and just hope that our ICU numbers don't go up too fast.

kenmc

owlbethere wrote: »

What is the outcome for people who would survive ICU?

Surely that's the definition of "critical case recovery" no?

Strumms

Professor Moriarty wrote: »

Obviously not. I'm an escort in real life.

I would have had you down as a fiesta myself.

Stheno

As someone who can readily work from home, I dont expect to be allowed to go into my office before sometime in June. My company fully support working from home

As restrictions get eased I suspect the government will ask companies like mine to continue this to allow a gradual return to normal life

Dr Tony said tonight that they will review restrictions Easter Sunday

Loafing Oaf

Loughc wrote: »

The massive slow down in % of new cases over the past few days is surely a sign we got ahead of this early when we closed the schools and colleges so soon.

It seems to be working well.

Wouldn't be cracking open the champagne just yet. Need to see a few consecutive days of decline in the actual number of new cases before we can be confident we're winning the battle

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kenmc wrote: »

Surely that's the definition of "critical case recovery" no?

Does ICU care always indicate critical status?

ninebeanrows

'Its tested enough so you know it doesnt kill you'

voluntary

Gods Gift wrote: »

Trump probably thinking that graph is a before and after of a boob job

He's not stupid. He just treats people in America as they were stupid. And they love him for that.

JP Liz V1

owlbethere wrote: »

What is the outcome for people who would survive ICU?

Could develop asthma

jimmycrackcorm

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1245105781046902790

You can tell that Trump is looking at the chart and is just thinking one thing - it looks like a perky boob.

Heres Johnny

US figures of 2 trillion dollars to save 2 million lives is a million dollars per life.
Just to give some perspective on the numbers being thrown out because they are kind of meaningless when you hear them, they're just mind bogglingly big.

Have to admire them for that, but Trump is still an awful waffler, some of the stuff even in this press conference is just complete rabble and filler for ratings.

Not a fan of either of those doctors either, but I suppose they are only press conferences the real work is going on away from cameras.

voluntary

Gods Gift wrote: »

Cheap oil.
Gasoline 99cents a gallon. Yeeeeeeehaaaaawww

Dublin. Before the crash diesel 1.32, after the crash diesel 1.20 (today)

That's not even 10% reduction, WTF?

owlbethere

kenmc wrote: »

Surely that's the definition of "critical case recovery" no?

I suppose so, yes. Sorry for my choice of words.

I was just thinking about something tonight and this is something I'm interested in. Like the quality of life after this infection and after ICU. I know it's a new virus and it's early days.

Wasn't there reports from china of lung transplants happening there?

threeball

Fauci literally just said the efficacy tests will take months for hydroxy and other drugs and Trump just recommened going ahead and taking them

fritzelly

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

https://twitter.com/ShaneGoldmacher/status/1245105781046902790

No fan but that is taking something out of context

voluntary

Heres Johnny wrote: »

US figures of 2 trillion dollars to save 2 million lives is a million dollars per life..

$1000 per life maybe?

US aircraft carrier Theodore Roosevelt is docked in Guam. Apparently 100 of the crew have the virus. Quarantining the entire crew is being considered.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-52110298

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Stripes99 wrote: »

So you reckon this way of living is likely to go on for a number of months to come??

Who the fook knows? Why are you asking random lads on the internet who, in reality, probably know no more than yourself? Just follow the guidelines and wait and see like the rest of us

pH

voluntary wrote: »

$1000 per life maybe?

2,000,000,000,000 (2 Trillion)

---

2,000,000 (2 million)

= $1,000,000

Maths is hard.

MrMusician18

RugbyLad11 wrote: »

Don't forget Leos unrealistic prediction of 15,000 cases by the end of the month.

I see lots of people celebrating and saying fantastic job by the Government because we didn't hit the 15,000 cases or 30% increase per day.

You are the same kind of eejit that would be giving out about FG about putting the economy first if they didn't react to the virus and for all intents and purposes close the country

It's almost like you and that other clown weldoninhio would find any angle and use it as a stick to beat Varadkar.

kilkenny31

voluntary wrote: »

Dublin. Before the crash diesel 1.32, after the crash diesel 1.20 (today)

That's not even 10% reduction, WTF?

Tax is so hight in this country on fuel in Ireland

Kermit.de.frog

Apparently...

WASHINGTON: China's "wet markets" have reopened - selling bats, pangolins and dogs for human consumption.

The move is dangerous as scientists believe that the Covid-19 causing coronavirus first lurked in a bat in China and hopped to another animal, before getting passed on to humans.

https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/world/china/chinas-deadly-wet-markets-are-back/articleshow/74912294.cms?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=social&utm_campaign=TOIMobile

yum

voluntary

pH wrote: »

2,000,000,000,000 (2 Trillion)

---

2,000,000 (2 million)

= $1,000,000

Maths is hard.

right

But this is actually like 6 grand per citizen.

Tandey

voluntary wrote: »

He's not stupid. He just treats people in America as they were stupid. And they love him for that.

Ah he’s a bit thick in fairness.

Hippykitten

I'm summarising the US press conference with three words:

For The Birds

Strumms

voluntary wrote: »

Dublin. Before the crash diesel 1.32, after the crash diesel 1.20 (today)

That's not even 10% reduction, WTF?

Going by how quiet the roads are, I’m in North Dublin and I’d be hearing cars in the evening pass at one every couple of minutes, nothing has passed in about 2 hours. It’s fücking weird.. silence is deafening out there. Reassuring though all things considered. The prices might be forced down because of this.

Hector Savage

Cases rising again in Spain ,
https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-03-31/after-small-reprieve-daily-coronavirus-deaths-spike-in-spain-again.html

There will be carnage here in the summer when people will be expected to sit at home while it's 36C outside ..... total carnage.

fritzelly

Strumms wrote: »

Going by how quiet the roads are, I’m in North Dublin and I’d be hearing cars in the evening pass at one every couple of minutes, nothing has passed in about 2 hours. It’s fücking weird.. silence is deafening out there. Reassuring though all things considered.

I wouldn't be one for going to nightclubs and banging music but right now I wanna be sitting in one and not be able to hear myself talk

Kermit.de.frog

pH wrote: »

2,000,000,000,000 (2 Trillion)

---

2,000,000 (2 million)

= $1,000,000

Maths is hard.

:eek:


*Math

We really need to up the standard here

murpho999

weldoninhio wrote: »

The “ramping up of tests” etc was a PR exercise. The “we have plenty of PPE” was a PR exercise.
The bullshyte about getting to “15,000 tests a day” was a PR exercise.

All we are getting from Simple Simon and Varadkardashian is spin and PR bluster.

The whole world is struggling with the this crisis.

It's now a global crisis.

I don't see the point in turning this into a political issue and blaming our politicians with hilarious names.

15,000 tests a day is not a PR exercise, it's a target they are working towards and they ar presently at 5,000 a day. By tests I mean results, not just swabs. They were at 2,000 last week.
People do not accept it takes to get all these things up and running.

Constant sniping at politicians and other geniuses pointing out how they predicted this crisis the moment they heard a person in Wuhan had a sore throat is boring , and that the government should have gone full lock-down in February,achieve nothing and make this thread unreadable.

In the meantime our death rates remain low compared to other countries and that's nothing to do with the impact of the decisions taken by the government. It now means their forecasts were false.

cj maxx

voluntary wrote: »

$1000 per life maybe?

2 trillion divided by 2 million is 1 million, now obviously that money is spent on alot of different agencies but 1 million a patient for that posters figures

Hamsterchops

Thursday 27th February....

Hamsterchops wrote: »

UK / HSE confirmed cases 016
IRL / HSE confirmed cases Zero

Then on the 15th March ....

Hamsterchops wrote: »

UK / NHS confirmed cases 1,372
IRL / HSE confirmed cases 0,139

Confirmed cases, 31st March....

Hamsterchops wrote: »

UK / NHS Confirmed cases 22,000
IRL / HSE Confirmed cases 03,235

Hamsterchops wrote: »

UK / NHS Covid-19 deaths 01,415
IRL / HSE Covid-19 deaths 071

Looking at these figures alone for the UK & Ireland just shows what a speed this virus is travelling at......

Atlantic Dawn

The beautiful ships, lol.

New Home

Kermit.de.frog wrote: »

:eek:

*Math

We really need to up the standard here

Not this side of the pond, it isn't!

Andrew00

Hector Savage wrote: »

Cases rising again in Spain ,
https://english.elpais.com/society/2020-03-31/after-small-reprieve-daily-coronavirus-deaths-spike-in-spain-again.html

There will be carnage here in the summer when people will be expected to sit at home while it's 36C outside ..... total carnage.

Im afraid so. Like if we get a few gorgeous weeks in May there'll be carnage.

Shn99

The CMO was saying this evening that if the current measures take effect, we could see a relaxation of the current measures. Would this be the reopening of schools, colleges ect or what are we thinking?

ChikiChiki

Christ thats some turnaround by Trump. Only a week ago he banging on about back to business at Easter and the China Flu.

Moron absolute moron.

voluntary

It may be time for everyone to mask up
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention is having second thoughts about masks.

Citing new data that shows high rates of transmission from people who are infected but show no symptoms, he said the guidance on mask wearing was “being critically re-reviewed, to see if there’s potential additional value for individuals that are infected or individuals that may be asymptomatically infected.”

The coronavirus is probably three times as infectious as the flu, Dr. Redfield said. Some people are infected and transmitting the virus probably as long as two days before showing any symptoms, he said. “This helps explain how rapidly this virus continues to spread across the country, because we have asymptomatic transmitters and we have individuals who are transmitting 48 hours before they become symptomatic,” Dr. Redfield said in the interview.

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/31/health/cdc-masks-coronavirus.html