Galway Races/Arts festival, closing for COVID?

youngrun

JustAThought wrote: »

Of the three thousand plus known and confirmed covid 19 cases in Itelad over nine hundred of these are in ICU in hospitals. Nursing home deaths are not even testing for covid 19 in autopsies ( even if they are conducted) not to mention the masses of unverified cases that also probably exist in our populations. While people are losing their livliehoods, jobs and possibly homes and a fifth of the population is hiding behind closed doors unable to see their grandchildren or visit loved ones it really beggars belief that Galway - one of the greater hubs for coronavirus infections want to have a arts/horseracing/ infection party. Yes businesses will be hit but how many people do you want to die or how many months do you want the enforced lockdown to have to continue because people will not play by the rules?

Look at Italy - 8+ pages of lists of deaths a day in their local newspapers, military rule on the streets, fines and imprisonment for thise out without a government permit because they would no respect their lockdown and over 12,000 Italians dead - so far.

Im sure the horses and theatre will keep til 2021 tragic and all as it is.

There isn't 900 in Icu.

This is all very strange.

How many die in a normal bad flu year in Ireland ?
From HSE
In Ireland, between 200 and 500 people, mainly older people, die from flu each winter.

Every year, around the world, flu causes between 3 and 5 million cases of severe disease and up to 646, 000 deaths.


Italy https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285

Are we being had??
Numbers similar to flu year amd maybe a bad one
How many are dying with coronavirus as opposed to of it??
Who's asking the questions??

youngrun

youngrun wrote: »

There isn't 900 in Icu.

This is all very strange.

How many die in a normal bad flu year in Ireland ?
From HSE
In Ireland, between 200 and 500 people, mainly older people, die from flu each winter.

Every year, around the world, flu causes between 3 and 5 million cases of severe disease and up to 646, 000 deaths.


Italy https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1201971219303285

Are we being had??
Numbers similar to flu year amd maybe a bad one
How many are dying with coronavirus as opposed to of it??
Who's asking the questions??

Can you please stop posting and go talk to someone, you really need to

biko

Folks, remember there is a specific forum for Corona-related issues here
https://www.boards.ie/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=1865

cooperguy

JustAThought wrote: »

Of the three thousand plus known and confirmed covid 19 cases in Itelad over nine hundred of these are in ICU in hospitals.

What! There's about 100 in ICU. Good thing too since we only have ~500 ICU beds.

I would say there is zero chance of the Arts festival going ahead. Races probably behind closed doors

youngrun

Deleted User wrote: »

Can you please stop posting and go talk to someone, you really need to

What do you think of the figures ?
I am coming around now thank you

youngrun

youngrun wrote: »

What do you think of the figures ?
I am coming around now thank you

Good to hear.

As for the conspiracy theory, I tend not to spend a lot of time on them. By their very nature they are designed to encourage paranoia, mistrust of evidence and science and tend to be based on nothing more than factless articles

Redo91

Would be madness to go calling off either at this stage. What’s the rush? Both are over 3 months away. China is starting to return to some sort of normality and they only went into lock down in January. Don’t understand the interest in calling these things off now. Also don’t go comparing them to Wimbledon, the Olympics, etc. which are on a completely different scale and have qualifying, etc.

Mrs OBumble

I'm sure that we won't have a Galway International Arts Festival this year. But - if we can keep disease transmission down now - we will hopefully see at least some kind of Galway Arts Festival - likely on a far smaller scale. Hell, it might even be the Fringe Festival dressed up a little.

If I was an events organiser, I'd be spending my time thinking about two or three scenarios, and what would need to be done to make smaller things happen, so that when I'm free to do stuff, there's a plan to follow.

In the last recession, there was a LOT of creative energy suddenly out of work: people had time to ponder and to learn new skills, and lots of initiatives emerged. Same thing can happen now for some, anyway. The general anxiety levels mean it won't be easy - but 2010 was a pretty damn anxious time too, and it was a lot harder to sign-on then.

joebloggs32

Redo91 wrote: »

Would be madness to go calling off either at this stage. What’s the rush? Both are over 3 months away. China is starting to return to some sort of normality and they only went into lock down in January. Don’t understand the interest in calling these things off now. Also don’t go comparing them to Wimbledon, the Olympics, etc. which are on a completely different scale and have qualifying, etc.

Spot on.
Wimbledon is an international event that has competitors from all over the globe travelling to compete. The key word is travelling.
I suspect that there will be little or no international travel this summer or maybe even until a vaccine is found.
However domestically we may have this under control with strict quarantine measures for anyone entering the country in a couple of months this time.
What is the advantage of canceling now? It's not going to have any impact on life in the next three months if you cancel now, so what's the problem with leaving them pencilled in for now.
However if you cancel them now and we have some semblance of normality back it would probably be much harder to get them up and running again.

Smegging hell

'The National Lead for Infection Control at the HSE says it’s not likely that major Galway events such as the Arts Festival and the Galway Races will take place this summer'. https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/national-lead-for-infection-control-says-arts-festival-and-galway-races-not-likely-to-go-ahead-this-summer/

Whereisgalway

https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/national-lead-for-infection-control-says-arts-festival-and-galway-races-not-likely-to-go-ahead-this-summer/

The beginning of going through the motions of cancelling it, the only correct decision

saabsaab

Smegging hell wrote: »

'The National Lead for Infection Control at the HSE says it’s not likely that major Galway events such as the Arts Festival and the Galway Races will take place this summer'. https://galwaybayfm.ie/galway-bay-fm-news-desk/national-lead-for-infection-control-says-arts-festival-and-galway-races-not-likely-to-go-ahead-this-summer/

I'd say almost certain.

brutes1

saabsaab wrote: »

I'd say almost certain.

Galway will suffer more than most economically especially on a local business and tourism level , will take a big hit six months March- Sept.

dastardly00

Just in relation to Wimbledon since it was referenced a few times... Wimbledon was insured in case of a pandemic. So if they waited another couple of months to decide what to do, then they might not have got the payout.

https://au.sports.yahoo.com/tennis-wimbledon-pandemic-insurance-all-england-club-set-for-payout-225927721.html?soc_src=social-sh&soc_trk=ma

Stevolende

Reallly hoping Tulca may be able to go ahead in some way in November.
Shame the earlier exhibitions were curtailed.
Launch got hit by Hurricane Jose then exhibition in Nun's Island did get like 5 days. I guess taht's not as bad as it might have been.
Sort of glad that both galwayArts Centre and 126 Gallery got some kind of launch and then a performance shortly before things closed down.

Hope everybody is able to return by end of year or whenever things do reopen.
Have enjoyed a lot of things in both places.

The races themselves will more than likely go ahead but behind closed door so the course itself while losing out a lot will get significant tv money. The city will suffer massively though, pubs and restaurants etc rely heavily on the races to make their year profitable.

That being said no decision should be made yet.

pure.conya

Lydia Tasteless Vial wrote: »

The races themselves will more than likely go ahead but behind closed door so the course itself while losing out a lot will get significant tv money. The city will suffer massively though, pubs and restaurants etc rely heavily on the races to make their year profitable.

That being said no decision should be made yet.

There isnt a notion of any racing happening in Galway this year, behind closed doors or not far too many would need to travel to make it happen, it may feel like it to some but it's really not the end of the world

JoeA3

Races won’t go ahead. The actual horse racing is a side show to the main event - boozing and women in ridiculous outfits. Without all that, there’s not much left to bother with.

pure.conya

pure.conya wrote: »

There isnt a notion of any racing happening in Galway this year, behind closed doors or not far too many would need to travel to make it happen, it may feel like it to some but it's really not the end of the world

Unless there is some massive deterioration in th situation it is almost guaranteed to go ahead behind closed doors, as usual you haven’t a clue what you are talking about.

The races is over 3 months away, things might not be back to normal by then but it would be very surprising if restrictions are not eased more than enough to allow behind closed doors racing.

It would be massively helped if all the knobs walking the prom etc stayed at home like they have been told to.

JoeA3 wrote: »

Races won’t go ahead. The actual horse racing is a side show to the main event - boozing and women in ridiculous outfits. Without all that, there’s not much left to bother with.

There is far from insignificant tv rights money for the racecourse and they will be doing their level best to ensure it goes ahead even without the crowds. On top of the the bookies will be massively pushing for racing in general to get back running ASAP. It was the last sport to finish and it will be the first one back too.

Mrs OBumble

Oranmore Arts Festival going ahead ... online. Details.


If accountants can work from home, artists surely can.

Whereisgalway

Mrs OBumble wrote: »

Oranmore Arts Festival going ahead ... online. Details.


If accountants can work from home, artists surely can.

This is a city forum, prob should be moved to county

Paddico

JoeA3 wrote: »

Races won’t go ahead. The actual horse racing is a side show to the main event - boozing and women in ridiculous outfits. Without all that, there’s not much left to bother with.

Dont forget the orange faces

JoeA3

The Horse show in the RDS, which usually happens the week after the Galway Races, has been cancelled. The writing is on the wall for the Galway Races...

Whereisgalway

JoeA3 wrote: »

The Horse show in the RDS, which usually happens the week after the Galway Races, has been cancelled. The writing is on the wall for the Galway Races...

Don’t know how people are so deluded that they think it’ll go adhead

Laviski

hear no evil see no evil...
head in the sand....
believe 5g caused Covid 19...


take your pick

Whereisgalway

Whereisgalway wrote: »

Don’t know how people are so deluded that they think it’ll go adhead

As I said there is a very high chance the races will go ahead just without the crowds.

I was listening to a doctor on the radio this morning who said it’s madness to expect to wait for a vaccine before we start to attempt to return to normal as it might never come.

Laviski wrote: »

hear no evil see no evil...
head in the sand....
believe 5g caused Covid 19...


take your pick

Ah come you can’t tie in people sensibly discussing when events might resume with the level of certifiable nonsense like 5G causes corona.

tipptom

Lydia Tasteless Vial wrote: »

The races themselves will more than likely go ahead but behind closed door so the course itself while losing out a lot will get significant tv money. The city will suffer massively though, pubs and restaurants etc rely heavily on the races to make their year profitable.

That being said no decision should be made yet.

+1,racing is a massive industry that does nor rely on the pubs and clubs or alchohol.
Neither does it rely on, as some begrudger here calls "women in ridiculous outfits.

If a lot of the courses in Ireland and England was relying on attendances they would be closed a long time ago.TV rights is what keeps racecourses going

Racing could be back as early as the 15 of May behind closed doors and has worked well with the rules set down in a massive area of any course with,no punters,no owners,no bookies,no restaurants or bars, cant even get a cup of tea,jockeys park beside the weigh room and leave immediately after riding in their respective races to their cars,no saunas.

Will be a pity for Galway if the races is held behind closed doors as a lot of people counting on it as an event to maybe save their business,but if restrictions are lifted and stay that way then racing will go ahead without pubs.

The Lost Sheep

Whereisgalway wrote: »

Don’t know how people are so deluded that they think it’ll go adhead

Races may well go ahead but without the crowds. Events need to start at some stage with social distancing and limited crowds at first as you cant stop everything until a vaccine is ready as that may be considerable time.

Whereisgalway

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Races may well go ahead but without the crowds. Events need to start at some stage with social distancing and limited crowds at first as you cant stop everything until a vaccine is ready as that may be considerable time.

Let’s concentrate on social distancing correctly and reduce the death total. 77 is very high, things won’t even start to return until that’s in the low low teens

youngrun

The Lost Sheep wrote: »

Races may well go ahead but without the crowds. Events need to start at some stage with social distancing and limited crowds at first as you cant stop everything until a vaccine is ready as that may be considerable time.

At some stage soon the government needs a proper plan to get things back up and running and get the country out of panic mode.

I am all in favour of reopening things in stages like the UK traffic light plan. Events and sport need to get going again there are kids and young people in this country who need a future and a social outlet. Those at risk or who are ill have a very capable health service to take care of them.now .
I would hold off till mid June if I were the race committee and hopefully get agreement on a race programme however limited days wise .