Relaxation of restrictions

_Kaiser_

thebaz wrote: »

For those wanting restrictions on the elderly cocooning to be lifted :-

The death toll rose by 28 to 263 with the deceased yesterday having a median age of 84 years of age.

So how about the elderly continue to cocoon and the rest have restrictions lifted somewhat then?

Seems a reasonable compromise at this point. Keeping everyone locked up regardless of circumstance or health status is wearing very thin

thebaz

thebaz wrote: »

For those wanting restrictions on the elderly cocooning to be lifted :-

The death toll rose by 28 to 263 with the deceased yesterday having a median age of 84 years of age.

Who wants that? Restrictions should be gradually relaxed from 5 May for everyone but the elderly and at risk. We need to get the economy going again, while making sure that the ICU isnt overwhelmed. It will be tough on the elderly, if they have to cocoon until there is a vaccine, but it is the only way to move on from this without burning down the whole economy

Phoebas

Blueshoe wrote: »

Hardly bashing when it's true. Schools are closed. They have been for some time now. They won't open again. The time is never made back up. Unions won't allow it. 7 months off at full pay. Goodnight Irene

The teachers aren't off. Some of them are providing classes over video conferencing: some are setting and correcting assignments.

thebaz

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

So the elderly continue to cocoon and the rest have restrictions lifted somewhat then?

Seems a reasonable compromise at this point. Keeping everyone locked up regardless of circumstance or health status is wearing very thin

The rest are not having restrictions lifted - we are all in lockdown for 3 weeks -
Look at the data , the people that this virus is killing is the elderly (average age 84), so keep them cocooned is the correct call - everyone is suffering

Ace2007

thebaz wrote: »

For those wanting restrictions on the elderly cocooning to be lifted :-

The death toll rose by 28 to 263 with the deceased yesterday having a median age of 84 years of age.

Baz - what does median age mean?

Plumbthedepths

Phoebas wrote: »

The teachers aren't off. Some of them are providing classes over video conferencing: some are setting and correcting assignments.

Stop, don't ruin it for him .

KaneToad

Ace2007 wrote: »

Baz - what does median age mean?

Half are above that age and half are below that age.
Whereas the mean (or average) age would be all the ages added together and divided by the number of people.

_Kaiser_

thebaz wrote: »

The rest are not having restrictions lifted - we are all in lockdown for 3 weeks -
Look at the data , the people that this virus is killing is the elderly (average age 84), so keep them cocooned is the correct call - everyone is suffering

Top paragraph was a suggested alternative

We can't just keep everyone locked in indefinitely. We need to protect those who are vulnerable through isolation but the rest of us need to be able to get back to work and everything else the economy depends on

thebaz

Ace2007 wrote: »

Baz - what does median age mean?

its been answered better by many , but simply - average age

thebaz

_Kaiser_ wrote: »

Top paragraph was a suggested alternative

We can't just keep everyone locked in indefinitely. We need to protect those who are vulnerable through isolation but the rest of us need to be able to get back to work and everything else the economy depends on

agree

KaneToad

thebaz wrote: »

its been answered better by many , but simply - average age

Not the average age. See my post above.

Cupatae

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Easy to sort out foreign travel, no one without an immunity cert allowed in or out.

You are in fairyland "Immunity cert" :pac::pac::D Also people will accept a 2nd lock down when they start dying en mass and hospitals start buckling under the pressure... they wont have any choice but to..

Penfailed

Ace2007 wrote: »

Baz - what does median age mean?

This \/\/\/

Ace2007

Ace2007 wrote: »

Baz - what does median age mean?

KaneToad wrote: »

Half are above that age and half are below that age.
Whereas the mean (or average) age would be all the ages added together and divided by the number of people.

thebaz wrote: »

its been answered better by many , but simply - average age

I know what it means, but from Baz answer it's clear that he doesn't.

thebaz

KaneToad wrote: »

Not the average age. See my post above.

it is an average , not getting into a statistal debate

FloatingVoter

KaneToad wrote: »

Not the average age. See my post above.

14, 25, 41, 65, 87, 100


I add 41 to 65 then divide by 2 - here, 106/2 = 53.


53 is your median.

Tell me how

Ace2007 wrote: »

Baz - what does median age mean?

thebaz wrote: »

its been answered better by many , but simply - average age

No. It isn't.

Median is the middle number in a range.

Plumbthedepths

Cupatae wrote: »

You are in fairyland "Immunity cert" :pac::pac::D Also people will accept a 2nd lock down when they start dying en mass and hospitals start buckling under the pressure... they wont have any choice but to..

Better tell the Australian government that's their plan to get back to 'normal' that's it fairytale stuff so.
Won't be a second lockdown, the vulnerable will be expected to cocoon, young people won't accept putting their lives on indefinite hold for older people they have no connection with.

Ace2007

thebaz wrote: »

it is an average , not getting into a statistal debate

But you can't say that the average age of those dying is 84, when that's not what is reported

thebaz wrote: »

The rest are not having restrictions lifted - we are all in lockdown for 3 weeks -
Look at the data , the people that this virus is killing is the elderly (average age 84), so keep them cocooned is the correct call - everyone is suffering

thebaz

Ace2007 wrote: »

I know what it means, but from Baz answer it's clear that he doesn't.

oh, sorry for politly trying to ansewr your question , should have ****ing ignored

The original quoute (below) I put in was lifted from the Indo

The death toll rose by 28 to 263 with the deceased yesterday having a median age of 84 years of age.

Ace2007

thebaz wrote: »

oh, sorry for politly trying to ansewr your question , should have ****ing ignored

The original quoute (below) I put in was lifted from the Indo

The death toll rose by 28 to 263 with the deceased yesterday having a median age of 84 years of age.

Yes but you going round saying it's the elderly that's dying, but you don't know that - you are assuming that

thebaz

Ace2007 wrote: »

Yes but you going round saying it's the elderly that's dying, but you don't know that - you are assuming that

well if the median age those dying is 84 , it is primarily fatal for the elderly , no ???

ps I realise it is not just the elderly , it is very fatal for adults who are immuno-suppressed or those with certain undelying health conditions which can be any age,

FloatingVoter

thebaz wrote: »

oh, sorry for politly trying to ansewr your question , should have ****ing ignored

The original quoute (below) I put in was lifted from the Indo

The death toll rose by 28 to 263 with the deceased yesterday having a median age of 84 years of age.

Which makes them all quite elderly. ?. Outliers however might be as young as toddlers with a few centenarians thrown in. The median is judged on the middle of a range of numbers. Who's the oldest ? Who's the youngest ? That's be equally uninformative.

flashforward

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Surely there is already a teacher basing thread for you to post that jibe in?

Where is this thread you speak of??
I'd love to get in on the action

Tell me how

Plumbthedepths wrote: »

Better tell the Australian government that's their plan to get back to 'normal' that's it fairytale stuff so.
Won't be a second lockdown, the vulnerable will be expected to cocoon, young people won't accept putting their lives on indefinite hold for older people they have no connection with.

I can think of at least 2 older people every young person has quite a strong connection with.
Possibly 4 for many.

Not to mention the compassion and empathy they have for other members of society aside from just being directly connected with them.

Ace2007

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Which makes them all quite elderly. You start getting teenagers dying and that median will shrink fast. Outliers might be in their late nineties and a few in their sixties.

Ok I will do a very simple example, .

14, 14, 16, 80, 94, 98, 100

the median above is 80

the median below is 80

77,78,79, 80, 94, 98,100

The median age doesn't change you see for teenagers dying

Pretzill

[Deleted User] wrote: »

I know plenty in my family who will actively go out and try to contract this if antibody tests work and you can get some kind of ‘certificate’ to allow normal life to resume. We have actually talked about that prospect

Good Jesus

thebaz

FloatingVoter wrote: »

Which makes them all quite elderly. ?. Outliers however might be as young as toddlers with a few centenarians thrown in. The median is judged on the middle of a range of numbers. Who's the oldest ? Who's the youngest ? That's be equally uninformative.

it seams to be very rare that fatalities occur under 20 , from what I have read, does happen but very rare (thankfully

Tandey

Phoebas wrote: »

The teachers aren't off. Some of them are providing classes over video conferencing: some are setting and correcting assignments.

Primary school teachers most certainly are off.

tritriagain

Why is median used instead of average and has an actual figure been given for average age of deaths.