Relaxation of restrictions

niallo27

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

If I had my way I would never work another hour in my life or have to socialise with another human.

That's probably not the healthiest attitude to have in life man. You alright.

Jenbach110

Cupatae wrote: »

The only thing it proves is some people in this generation are soft as **** and any bit of "hardship" breaks them

It really does.
People have became so paralysed by fear of the virus that they have became divorced of a logical thought process. Questioning whats happening indefinately is met with disdain and cries to think of the vunerable.

The restrictions I am afraid could be prolonged by fear, not rational thinking.

KiKi III

niallo27 wrote: »

The post I replied to was about how easy the lockdown was, just sit at home and eat fancy food and lounge around. Did this post not piss you off.

No, it doesn't - because even having lost a large proportion of my income I recognise the truth in what they're saying. A good friend of mine is a doctor and I know what I'm going through is nothing compared to her. Several friends have had symptoms and I haven't had to deal with that fear yet. My granny hasn't seen anyone except her carer in weeks, I don't have to go through that.

Anyone who has the luxury to be on Boards all day arguing has it better than an awful lot of people and needs to stop complaining.

Lusocu

Blueshoe wrote: »

Are they young ones or auld ones?

Mid to late 30s one looks about in her 70s

ShatterAlan

Ace2007 wrote: »

And you are the type of **** causing so much pain in this country - sure it's only a few people over for dinner - bit of a laugh eh?

Feel sorry for your sister having you as a brother - having no respect for her on the colleagues who put their lives at risk to save people.

I don't care if i get a warning for calling you a **** - i think pretty much every poster would agree.

Jesus Christ...would you give your arse a chance.

Cupatae

Jenbach110 wrote: »

It really does.
People have became so paralysed by fear of the virus that they have became divorced of a logical thought process. Questioning whats happening indefinately is met with disdain and cries to think of the vunerable.

The restrictions I am afraid could be prolonged by fear, not rational thinking.

Nah alot are strong, and want to protect the most at risk by sacrificing a small bit of our freedom,small price to pay if it saves alot of lives... Ill be financially impacted by this but ill just dust myself off and rebuild, get over yourself, its 3 weeks of chilling out entertain yourself some way.

Leave the problem solving to the people that are qualified to do so.

Nermal

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

If I had my way I would never work another hour in my life or have to socialise with another human.

When did they make you head of the NPHET?

Blueshoe

Lusocu wrote: »

Mid to late 30s one looks about in her 70s

Lol. Oh I see.

Cupatae

KiKi III wrote: »

No, it doesn't - because even having lost a large proportion of my income I recognise the truth in what they're saying. A good friend of mine is a doctor and I know what I'm going through is nothing compared to her. Several friends have had symptoms and I haven't had to deal with that fear yet. My granny hasn't seen anyone except her carer in weeks, I don't have to go through that.

Anyone who has the luxury to be on Boards all day arguing has it better than an awful lot of people and needs to stop complaining.

Thats exactly what i was trying to say, there are people so much worse off, like dying or facing the virus every day and then there are people whinging about having to stay home, were all losing money but it is what it is.

People take for granted how privileged we are in this country we actually have it really good and should be thankful.

iamwhoiam

Cupatae wrote: »

Oh the horror, ive got to watch my favorite programs, get to go out for a walk run every day, do shopping, eat my favorite food.. have internet and a vast amount of ways to keep Entertained, can phone any of my friends for a chat..

Absolute freedom denied, how will we ever make it thru 3 more weeks of this... i tell ya they had it easy in ww1 and ww2.. we are the real greatest generation! this really is hell on earth!

The only thing it proves is some people in this generation are soft as **** and any bit of "hardship" breaks them

You are doing ok thankfully . There are people out there so stressed because their mam or dad or nana are in a care home and they cannot see them or comfort them.
There are eldery people feeling extremely lonely and their home help are not cominh to help out .
There are older people in care home fretting because they cannot see their loved ones . Some have dementia and very dependant on a familiar face
My own mother died in early February and she was incredibly dependent on seeing her family two , three , four times a day . I am very grateful she is not there to suffer this separation .But others are suffering

I am doing ok too , I have a husband , a garden , plenty to do , plenty to eat
But am very aware of the stress on others and the fact that some children and some women are living in fear in violent situations . Not everyone is as lucky as you and I

s1ippy

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

If I had my way I would never work another hour in my life or have to socialise with another human.

I can respect this position. Feeling satisfaction and fulfillment in oneself is very healthy. I'm sure you'll happily ignore the condescending posters on this thread who'll try and take you down a peg because they're so insecure and reliant on others to vindicate their own importance. Good for you.

LoughNeagh2017

Huntergonzo wrote: »

To be honest my mother in particular wanted to do something as we couldn't have a months mind naturally.

It was nice to get together but again, we see each other most days anyway and social distancing rules were respected.

You'd have to laugh at the extraordinary lack of empathy here on boards though, you'd really wonder about these people sometimes.

This forum is full of nasty pretentious fellows. The way I work it is comment and not read the replies, it is better for the blood pressure.

Stateofyou

Nermal wrote: »

You're hiding indoors because you're scared of a virus that is less dangerous than taking a 9-mile drive in a car.

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.04.05.20054361v1

Now who's soft?

Ridiculous statement. So now the millions in this country who are doing their best for our country and each other by abiding with the guidelines, and indeed the millions all over the world doing the same, are now cowards? This thread has completely gone to the dogs. We're all in better company with each other, the millions here and around the world, than the selfish few here and there letting everyone else down. For shame.

Tell me how

LoughNeagh2017 wrote: »

This forum is full of nasty pretentious fellows. The way I work it is comment and not read the replies, it is better for the blood pressure.

So you feel that only your opinion matters?

Not a great approach to discussions is it?

Cupatae

Stateofyou wrote: »

Ridiculous statement. So now the millions in this country who are doing their best for our country and each other by abiding with the guidelines, and indeed the millions all over the world doing the same, are now cowards? This thread has completely gone to the dogs. We're all in better company with each other, the millions here and around the world, than the selfish few here and there letting everyone else down. For shame.

Thats the logic you're dealing with...

Gael23

Just read a death notice on Rip.ie.
The man had 8 children and 32 grandchildren. How do you possibly pick 10 out of that to attend the funeral?

Diarmuid

KiKi III wrote: »

this isn't an eejit driving half way round the country for a trampoline,

https://theliberal.ie/gardai-stop-one-man-who-was-driving-from-tipperary-to-limerick-to-buy-a-trampoline/

39km from Tipp town to Limerick but it could easily have been anything down to 15km journey

But I guess half way around the country sounded more sensational.

Huntergonzo

Gael23 wrote: »

Just read a death notice on Rip.ie.
The man had 8 children and 32 grandchildren. How do you possibly pick 10 out of that to attend the funeral?

Heart-breaking stuff alright, isolation is terrible for any family in those circumstances, there's no easy answers for them and people have to stay away when they need support the most.

VinLieger

Diarmuid wrote: »

https://theliberal.ie/gardai-stop-one-man-who-was-driving-from-tipperary-to-limerick-to-buy-a-trampoline/

39km from Tipp town to Limerick but it could easily have been anything down to 15km journey

But I guess half way around the country sounded more sensational.

Dont use the liberal as a source, its even worse than the sun and run by an agenda obsessed bigot.

WhiteMemento9

VinLieger wrote: »

Dont use the liberal as a source, its even worse than the sun and run by an agenda obsessed bigot.

How is that thing still in business? I presumed it died years ago.

the kelt

iamwhoiam wrote: »

You are doing ok thankfully . There are people out there so stressed because their mam or dad or nana are in a care home and they cannot see them or comfort them.
There are eldery people feeling extremely lonely and their home help are not cominh to help out .
There are older people in care home fretting because they cannot see their loved ones . Some have dementia and very dependant on a familiar face
My own mother died in early February and she was incredibly dependent on seeing her family two , three , four times a day . I am very grateful she is not there to suffer this separation .But others are suffering

I am doing ok too , I have a husband , a garden , plenty to do , plenty to eat
But am very aware of the stress on others and the fact that some children and some women are living in fear in violent situations . Not everyone is as lucky as you and I

This is the thing, it’s the suck it up because I am so privileged approach without even a sense of what other people are going through approach I just don’t get, well I do get it but to openly admit your approach is well I’m ok jack so screw you, lock down for as long as ye want is beyond selfish

And I’m genuinely one who’s in the bracket of being fine. Both my wife and I are on full pay, our jobs will be fine, I’m currently on holidays but can work from home, in the country with more than an acre behind me as a garden for the kids who are at an easy age to look after. Likewise my elderly father lives with us so I’m not worried about him, we do all our shopping online and literally 2 mins away is close to 100 acres of coillte forest to discover.

I’m genuinely lucky but wouldn’t dare tell other to just suck it up without knowing what people are going through.

I volunteer as part of the local gaa club to help the needy in the parish, meals on wheels and prescription collection and I can tell ye people are suffering, I had an old neighbour yesterday when I was ensuring him that as long as he’s fit and stays safe that’s all that matters break down in tears telling me sure what’s the point as this isn’t living!

Maybe I should have told him how privileged he is and to suck it up!!

Downlinz

Nermal wrote: »

More or less the same as it is now, just with an extra 0.25%-0.4% chance of death for the rest of the year.

That % is for the population of course. Less for some, more for others.

"Minister Harris cited modelling done by Professor Philip Nolan, which projected that this coming Sunday alone, there would have been 120,000 new cases of the virus, if no restrictive measures had been introduced.

If just partial mitigation had been done, by the end of May, the modelling suggested we would see around 70,000 new cases on one day."

Using the HSE's projection for partial mitigation during the peak compared to our current flattened curve figures and using the current death rate of around 3.5% it would change the daily deathrate from ~30 to 2450 which is far from an insignificant increase.

JL555

iamwhoiam wrote: »

But am very aware of the stress on others and the fact that some children and some women are living in fear in violent situations . Not everyone is as lucky as you and I

Unfortunately, it's not only some children and women who are living in fear of violent situations.

Diarmuid

VinLieger wrote: »

Dont use the liberal as a source, its even worse than the sun and run by an agenda obsessed bigot.

It was the first link that google threw up as a reference. Here are three other sources for you to doubt

https://www.limerickleader.ie/news/crime-and-courts/534167/motorist-stopped-at-garda-checkpoint-was-travelling-to-limerick-to-buy-a-trampoline.html
https://www.rte.ie/news/2020/0411/1130004-easter-garda-restrictions/
https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/coronavirus-seapoint-sandycove-and-forty-foot-bathing-spots-closed-1.4227098

Jenbach110

the kelt wrote: »

I volunteer as part of the local gaa club to help the needy in the parish, meals on wheels and prescription collection and I can tell ye people are suffering, I had an old neighbour yesterday when I was ensuring him that as long as he’s fit and stays safe that’s all that matters break down in tears telling me sure what’s the point as this isn’t living!

Maybe I should have told him how privileged he is and to suck it up!!

He's right we are not living and looks like we wont for some time.
I think someone suggested netflix, has he netflix?

The suck it up narrative is such an ignoramous approach.

Cupatae

the kelt wrote: »

This is the thing, it’s the suck it up because I am so privileged approach without even a sense of what other people are going through approach I just don’t get, well I do get it but to openly admit your approach is well I’m ok jack so screw you, lock down for as long as ye want is beyond selfish

And I’m genuinely one who’s in the bracket of being fine. Both my wife and I are on full pay, our jobs will be fine, I’m currently on holidays but can work from home, in the country with more than an acre behind me as a garden for the kids who are at an easy age to look after. Likewise my elderly father lives with us so I’m not worried about him, we do all our shopping online and literally 2 mins away is close to 100 acres of coillte forest to discover.

I’m genuinely lucky but wouldn’t dare tell other to just suck it up without knowing what people are going through.

I volunteer as part of the local gaa club to help the needy in the parish, meals on wheels and prescription collection and I can tell ye people are suffering, I had an old neighbour yesterday when I was ensuring him that as long as he’s fit and stays safe that’s all that matters break down in tears telling me sure what’s the point as this isn’t living!

Maybe I should have told him how privileged he is and to suck it up!!

What are you even talking about, i was arguing against people that say the lockdown is essentially a waste of time, you know the one that protects the people you are talking about? i was saying that we shouldn't be complaining as we have it easy compared to people in worse situations like doc,nurses...and the people you are talking about ? try to be less dramatic and stop spinning and twisting what i said, and i stand behind that we are privileged here in this country and the vast majority complaining arent in any of the circumstances you state infact most of what i read was economically motivated,

Also both my parents are High risk and have underlying conditions, but we are privileged enough to have access to food at ease in dunnes/lidl ect we have internet, and channels, by no means rich but certainly appreciative of what we have and this is what you make it, and i just chose to get on with it as it is seen as the best course of action. Everyone struggles just some choose not to whinge and moan about it. its a **** time for everyone get over urself and get on with it.

But just to really dumb it down for you, was my comment aimed at that dude you were serving? no it was aimed at the poster i was replying to and people in similar situations.

Cupatae

Jenbach110 wrote: »

He's right we are not living and looks like we wont for some time.
I think someone suggested netflix, has he netflix?

The suck it up narrative is such an ignoramous approach.

Bet you were worried about that lad, when you complaining about the lockdown alright...tell me why dont you volunteer? agreeing with points cause they suit your own narrative.

Jenbach110

Downlinz wrote: »

"Minister Harris cited modelling done by Professor Philip Nolan, which projected that this coming Sunday alone, there would have been 120,000 new cases of the virus, if no restrictive measures had been introduced.

If just partial mitigation had been done, by the end of May, the modelling suggested we would see around 70,000 new cases on one day."

Using the HSE's projection for partial mitigation during the peak compared to our current flattened curve figures and using the current death rate of around 3.5% it would change the daily deathrate from ~30 to 2450 which is far from an insignificant increase.

Those figures have been discredited immediatley using the 3.5% death rate.

The inconsistency of the figures used in official reports is incredible

JTMan

Regarding concerts and sporting events:

US healthcare expert tells the NY Times here that sporting events, concerts and conventions will not restart until Autumn 2021. Why then when a vaccine is expected to be available to the masses in Spring 2021? "People are not adding on to the backend of that time period the fact that we will then be chasing outbreaks, ping-pong-ing back and forth between countries. We will need to have the equivalent of the polio-eradication program or the smallpox-eradication program, hopefully at the WHO".

But could 10-25% of the seats be filled at sporting events?

Morgan Stanley says here that "large venues such as sports stadiums, concert halls and theme parks are also likely to remain shut or have attendance capped at 10-25% of prior levels".

More evidence that sporting events, concerts (and working from home) will be the last restrictions to be lifted.

KiKi III

Jenbach110 wrote: »

He's right we are not living and looks like we wont for some time.
I think someone suggested netflix, has he netflix?

The suck it up narrative is such an ignoramous approach.

Have you currently got a heartbeat? Are you breathing? If so, you are indeed living so cool down the melodrama.