Normal People [BBC - RTE] - [**SPOILERS**]

Larbre34

Purple Mountain wrote: »

The sex scenes are there as an art effect to add to the story.
People on Joe Duffy calling it porn obviously never clicked into Pornhub!

Wouldn't you love to see their faces when shown some good honest aggressive gay german examples.

Purple Mountain

Larbre34 wrote: »

Wouldn't you love to see their faces when shown some good honest aggressive gay german examples.

Porn is made to arouse the viewer and to be provocative.
None of the scenes in Normal People aim to do that.

bb1234567

dubdaymo wrote: »

This must qualify as one of the slowest and boring series ever on TV. I'm willing to bet that:

1. Very few would be still watching it without the sex scenes.

2. Most people are recording it and then fast forwarding to the sex scenes

Personally skipped the sex scenes, they were so drawn out and moany and don't think they added anything to the show really

Strazdas

The sex scenes were tasteful IMO. Something I haven't seen commented on much is that they used lovely atmospheric background music during each sex scene (check out Connell and Marianne's first time for example)......they were deliberately trying to create something beautiful and artistic.

Larbre34

Purple Mountain wrote: »

Porn is made to arouse the viewer and to be provocative.
None of the scenes in Normal People aim to do that.

I agree completely, try telling Liveline and the 51 callers RTE got.

I've seen the series through to the end and theres one more doozy of a scene that will have the holy Joes saying rosaries for a week.

Muahahaha

Big hit in the UK anyway, it has had BBC Threes highest ever ratings. Here it is doing 300k views when watched live and then around 450k-500k views total when Player views are accounted for a week later

Normal People, based on the bestselling novel by the Irish writer Sally Rooney, has proved a TV hit during lockdown, delivering the best ever weekly ratings for BBC Three in the UK. Starring Daisy Edgar-Jones and Paul Mescal, the 12-part drama tells the story of Marianne and Connell, whose secret high school romance goes on to define their adult lives.

On the sex scenes

The Irish national broadcaster RTÉ received 50 complaints about the sex scenes in the series. Lenny Abrahamson, who co-directed the series with Hettie Macdonald, has defended the scenes in an interview with the broadcaster, emphasising their “positive aspects”, and adding that they had been filmed “very sensitively”.

Speaking to the Guardian in April, the show’s intimacy co-ordinator, Ita O’Brien, described the “delicacy, the beauty, the openness of this incredible, something-other relationship. It was crucial for me to honour Sally’s writing. There is nothing gratuitous.”

https://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/2020/may/21/normal-people-producers-order-pornhub-to-remove-pirated-sex-scenes

Mick McGraw

Intimacy Co-Ordinator, what a great title for a job.

Sleepy

And how exactly would one interview for such a position?! :eek:

kowloon

Mick McGraw wrote: »

Intimacy Co-Ordinator, what a great title for a job.

I remember hearing that the series Hannibal had to have reshoots because they had ladyparts at a more revealing angle than allowed in a scene. Not getting it right can be an expensive mistake. Setting up the scenes must take a lot more effort when it involves people's wobbly bits.

Beechwoodspark

“Home and away on the wild Atlantic way”is the best description I’ve heard yet!

Thargor

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

“Home and away on the wild Atlantic way”is the best description I’ve heard yet!

You must have been hearing some pretty sh1tty descriptions then.

Thargor

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Not at all

It’s as shallow and mass market as home and away

I honestly dont know how its possible to be that wrong about anything.

Beechwoodspark

Thargor wrote: »

I honestly dont know how its possible to be that wrong about anything.

Honestly again I’m amazed at how triggered/upset ppl get when someone gives their opinion on this show

Thargor

I couldn't give a flying monkey what you think about it and Im not a triggered/libtard/snowflake or whatever the insult of the week is on Facebook but to compare two completely different shows like that and say they're the same is just wrong and shows you have zero ability to analyse this kind of thing, thats whats honestly amazing.

1 sheep2

Thargor wrote: »

I honestly dont know how its possible to be that wrong about anything.

Lol.

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

Honestly again I’m amazed at how triggered/upset ppl get when someone gives their opinion on this show

You seem to glory in criticising the series. I'm in no way offended by your criticism, and I'm not even particularly fond of the series, but your gleeful ignorance is just generally irritating. I presume that explains the reaction you get.

Tork

For somebody who clearly didn't like the show, you're allowing it an awful lot of room in your head. Why would you even bother? If I watch TV shows I don't like, I put them out of my mind and can't be arsed posting about them over and over again. You've been making the same point for weeks.

Everything Italian

Thargor wrote: »

I couldn't give a flying monkey what you think about it and Im not a triggered/libtard/snowflake or whatever the insult of the week is on Facebook but to compare two completely different shows like that and say they're the same is just wrong and shows you have zero ability to analyse this kind of thing, thats whats honestly amazing.

1 sheep2 wrote: »

Lol.



You seem to glory in criticising the series. I'm in no way offended by your criticism, and I'm not even particularly fond of the series, but your gleeful ignorance is just generally irritating. I presume that explains the reaction you get.

Tork wrote: »

For somebody who clearly didn't like the show, you're allowing it an awful lot of room in your head. Why would you even bother? If I watch TV shows I don't like, I put them out of my mind and can't be arsed posting about them over and over again. You've been making the same point for weeks.

It's been at it for a while now, just ignore it.

Beechwoodspark

I’m not totally negative

It’s a shallow mass market show aimed at 16-20

My niece aged 17 is obsessed with it - loves it !

My cousin aged 22 says her age group laugh at it

SusieBlue

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’m not totally negative

It’s a shallow mass market show aimed at 16-20

My niece aged 17 is obsessed with it - loves it !

My cousin aged 22 says her age group laugh at it

And there are people across all ages and backgrounds on this thread who thoroughly enjoyed it.
What’s your point?

1 sheep2

Everything Italian wrote: »

Sorry, just once more...

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’m not totally negative

It’s a shallow mass market show aimed at 16-20

From Wikipedia: "Normal People gave BBC Three its best ever in its first week on iPlayer, receiving over 16.2 million programme requests, about 5 million of which were from 16–34 year olds." For a show aimed at 16-20, it sure is doing well among 35+!

olestoepoke

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

I’m not totally negative

It’s a shallow mass market show aimed at 16-20

My niece aged 17 is obsessed with it - loves it !

My cousin aged 22 says her age group laugh at it

I'm 46 years old and loved the show and then the book. My friends repeatedly told me how good the recent show London Gangsters is. I gave it a go, about halfway through the second episode I switched it off, didn't like it at all. Now I'm gonna leave it at that, I won't spend weeks on an Internet forum trying to troll people telling them that I didn't like it because that would just be childish wouldn't it.

AndrewJRenko

Beechwoodspark wrote: »

“Home and away on the wild Atlantic way”is the best description I’ve heard yet!

Yeah, Trinity College and the Italian villa are such an intrinsic part of the Wild Atlantic Way

Airyfairy12

It really made me want to live in Dublin, they romantisised Dublin so much. Id imagine it's a totally different city for people who can comfortably afford to live there. Nice house or apartment close to the city or nice spots like Smithsfeild, fancy house parties with friends that have pools and big gardens, drinking wine and having dinner parties, nice clothes.. The reality for allot of students and working professionals in a dinjy box room on the outskirts with daily hour long journeys just to get to work or college and home again. They also left out the homeless people all over the streets and the drug addicts on every corner.

1 sheep2

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It really made me want to live in Dublin, they romantisised Dublin so much. Id imagine it's a totally different city for people who can comfortably afford to live there. Nice house or apartment close to the city or nice spots like Smithsfeild, fancy house parties with friends that have pools and big gardens, drinking wine and having dinner parties, nice clothes.. The reality for allot of students and working professionals in a dinjy box room on the outskirts with daily hour long journeys just to get to work or college and home again. They also left out the homeless people all over the streets and the drug addicts on every corner.

Funnily, as one whose life isn't a million miles away from Marianne's, it was the glamourised small-town experience of Sligo that I was envious of. Surroundings and opportunities like Marianne's in Dublin don't eradicate your insecurities, as the series demonstrates.

Strazdas

1 sheep2 wrote: »

Sorry, just once more...



From Wikipedia: "Normal People gave BBC Three its best ever in its first week on iPlayer, receiving over 16.2 million programme requests, about 5 million of which were from 16–34 year olds." For a show aimed at 16-20, it sure is doing well among 35+!

RTE have revealed that Tuesday's episode had a 40% audience share amongst over 55s. This explodes the idea that it is some sort of teen centred drama aimed at a young audience.

It tells us that anyone of any age can relate to Normal People. You don't have to be a teenager to identify with Connell and Marianne.

Airyfairy12

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It really made me want to live in Dublin, they romantisised Dublin so much. Id imagine it's a totally different city for people who can comfortably afford to live there. Nice house or apartment close to the city or nice spots like Smithsfeild, fancy house parties with friends that have pools and big gardens, drinking wine and having dinner parties, nice clothes.. The reality for allot of students and working professionals in a dinjy box room on the outskirts with daily hour long journeys just to get to work or college and home again. They also left out the homeless people all over the streets and the drug addicts on every corner.

Well the aim of the show was to micro focus on Connall and Mariannes inner circle of friends which centred around Trinity and not to highlight the urban plight of Dublin.

Strazdas

Deleted User wrote: »

Well the aim of the show was to micro focus on Connall and Mariannes inner circle of friends which centred around Trinity and not to highlight the urban plight of Dublin.

The show is unusual in that it is very character driven and shows little of the background of where they live or where they are at any given time. All of the focus is on the two main leads and how they are thinking and reacting. You could almost call it a study in psychology alongside it being a passionate love story.

marieholmfan

Strazdas wrote: »

RTE have revealed that Tuesday's episode had a 40% audience share amongst over 55s. This explodes the idea that it is some sort of teen centred drama aimed at a young audience.

It tells us that anyone of any age can relate to Normal People. You don't have to be a teenager to identify with Connell and Marianne.

sounds like it is very popular among --- Normal People

Connall and Marianne could have been a couple from any decade and i think an irish audience would relate to them because the central themes of miscommunication and awkwardness are there

lainey_d_123

Airyfairy12 wrote: »

It really made me want to live in Dublin, they romantisised Dublin so much. Id imagine it's a totally different city for people who can comfortably afford to live there. Nice house or apartment close to the city or nice spots like Smithsfeild, fancy house parties with friends that have pools and big gardens, drinking wine and having dinner parties, nice clothes.. The reality for allot of students and working professionals in a dinjy box room on the outskirts with daily hour long journeys just to get to work or college and home again. They also left out the homeless people all over the streets and the drug addicts on every corner.

So is anywhere, really. Money shelters you from a lot of things. Before covid, I was tutoring a girl who lives in an enormous townhouse in Highgate (posh bit of north London). She was always saying she couldn't understand why people didn't like London, but her reality was completely different to most people's. Lovely big house with her own bathroom and walk-in wardrobe, massive garden with a dedicated bbq area/fire pit, went to a lovely little private girls school with endless opportunities to study any subject, along with excellent music and art facilities. I did a week of intensive live-in language tutoring with her during her school holidays before I started my full time job, and it was like living in a different world. Get up, put on Sweaty Betty yoga clothes, grab a fancy coffee and an expensive muffin, walk down a gorgeous tree lined street to the fancy gym for an hour yoga class, come home and ask the housekeeper to make eggs and a fresh juice for brunch, private language tuition with me and private maths tuition with another girl, order in pizzas for everyone for dinner without even looking at the price, friends over in the evening for expensive wine before heading off to a house party in someone else's north London mansion. She was a lovely girl but just had no concept of how enormously privileged she was. And I had my eyes really opened to how easy life is when you have money. There's a whole set like that in Trinity as well, living in a massive bubble, I just didn't mix with them because we had nothing in common, but Marianne would definitely be that kind of person.

I remember meeting a posh English girl in 4th year in Trinity who had never been on a Dublin bus, or been anywhere outside Dublin 1/2/4/6 except to go to the airport!