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Normal People [BBC - RTE] - [**SPOILERS**]

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  • Registered Users Posts: 8,239 ✭✭✭Pussyhands


    JackTC wrote: »
    It was a fad.

    It's not a show that will be remembered. Although yer man connell is doing well

    It's really amazing how a 6 part series can change a mans life.

    He's really not a good actor. There was a clip of him in some other role and he had a northern accent which was terrible.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭Purple is a Fruit


    ulster wrote: »
    I haven't seen it myself. I prefer watching Sci fi shows.

    But seriously, the begrudgery in this thread. Grow up.
    Begrudgery isn't people giving the opinion that they didn't like something/think it's overhyped.

    You haven't even watched it. If you did watch it and didn't like it, would that be begrudgery?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 202 ✭✭Purple is a Fruit


    Pussyhands wrote: »
    It's really amazing how a 6 part series can change a mans life.

    He's really not a good actor. There was a clip of him in some other role and he had a northern accent which was terrible.
    12 parts to be fair. Good for him.

    Whether it's a fad and won't be remembered, I don't know, but I'm tending towards that assessment.


  • Registered Users Posts: 2,620 ✭✭✭Hamachi


    It’s crazy to think that it’s a year since Normal People aired. Really makes you wonder where the last year went.

    Personally I enjoyed it. It was uneven at times, but mostly well acted and produced. The Italian villa episode was excellent and I found the entire final episode pretty moving.

    I hope they don’t rush into a sequel or a second season. However, I’d like to revisit both characters in ten years as they enter their mid-30s.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,183 ✭✭✭99nsr125


    pj9999 wrote: »
    Am I the only one who found Normal People only… alright? Dragged out convos like this: I’m taking yer one to the debs. Ok grand. Is that ok. Ya tis. Ok so.
    Or
    Have you got a condom. I do. Good. Will I put it on. Ok go on so good man. Thanks. Will I ride you now. Ok go on so I will take off my clothes. ok.

    And herself’s bossy brother didn’t even get the comeuppance I was looking forward to at the end.

    I thought it was rubbish


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,497 ✭✭✭✭kowloon


    I've been told the book is better than the series. The reaction to the friend killing himself was some excellent acting and made the series worthwhile but I wonder if the whole series is aimed at anyone other than Women reliving their college days dreaming about the GAA star with depth and intelligence to come and give them a solid reaming.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,681 ✭✭✭Porklife


    ulster wrote: »
    I haven't seen it myself. I prefer watching Sci fi shows.

    But seriously, the begrudgery in this thread. Grow up.

    How is not liking a particular show begrudgery?
    You like sci fi shows? Grow up!

    I found it mediocre but enjoyable enough on a boring Tuesday evening during lockdown. The acting was very wooden and I didn't really warm to any of the characters. Following the breakdown scene with the therapist i liked Connell a lot more and it made me question if maybe his character was in fact wooden and very well acted afterall.
    It's not a show I'd recommend or watch again however.


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    pj9999 wrote: »
    And herself’s bossy brother didn’t even get the comeuppance I was looking forward to at the end.


    Ah hello? Spoilers? Ive not seen it to the end yet.


    TBH, I dont think I completed an entire episode. I found the protracted silences hard going and the put on rural way of talking. And Im from rural wesht of Ireland.



    "Do you fancy a quick ride?"
    "Ah go on so"
    "Jaysus yuve a grand set of, you know"
    "Er thanks. Can we get Supermacs after this?


  • Posts: 11,614 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    More like 150.


    My last cleaner cost 50 for 3 hours. In Dublin.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 8,130 ✭✭✭Surreptitious


    Cleaners are 47 for 3 hours in Cork. Was looking it up to get the place refreshed.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 379 ✭✭Tilden Katz


    milehip wrote: »
    That's what boils my piss! Normal People from the West of Ireland don't have access to Italian Villas or go to Trinners.

    As a working class west of Ireland broad who went to TCD, this is news to me. I wasn’t particularly out of place in college either. Lots of culchies attended when I did. And working class Dubs. The Dub contingent was mostly from the leafy middle class suburbs but not overwhelmingly so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 30,677 ✭✭✭✭freshpopcorn


    pj9999 wrote: »

    And herself’s bossy brother didn’t even get the comeuppance I was looking forward to at the end.

    I think her brothers story was he'd be stuck in the village for the rest of his life with the same friends he had in secondary school.
    Whilst Marianne would have a whole exciting life ahead of her.
    Which was something fairly accurate in my opinion.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 11,446 ✭✭✭✭castletownman


    Daisy edgar Jones has an English accent in real life - thought she nailed that Irish accent

    Yeah, I thought she was far better than Mescal in it, yet the way the Irish media build him up you'd swear he was the second coming of Daniel Day Lewis. Although that therapy scene was good to be fair.

    I can see how some people enjoyed the show, but I felt it fell into that category of critically acclaimed dramas where nothing really happens by the end. And there is almost an air of pretentiousness among its fiercest supporters. 'Oh you don't understand...'.Like Manchester By the Sea, Birdman or Boyhood.

    And don't get me started on the creepy infatuation towards Mescal by women. They are only GAA shorts like. Imagine lads were commentating on Daisy's appearance as much!


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,514 ✭✭✭MoonUnit75


    Yeah, I thought she was far better than Mescal in it, yet the way the Irish media build him up you'd swear he was the second coming of Daniel Day Lewis. Although that therapy scene was good to be fair.

    I can see how some people enjoyed the show, but I felt it fell into that category of critically acclaimed dramas where nothing really happens by the end. And there is almost an air of pretentiousness among its fiercest supporters. 'Oh you don't understand...'.Like Manchester By the Sea, Birdman or Boyhood.

    And don't get me started on the creepy infatuation towards Mescal by women. They are only GAA shorts like. Imagine lads were commentating on Daisy's appearance as much!

    Yeah I agree. Although for me the best bit of female fan baiting was where the Mescal character was in Trinity and mumbled the kind of Twitter auto-responses you see every hour of every day from the people who put pronouns in their bio and the other lads were like 'wow, such penetrating insight, you should be on the debating team!'. I actually laughed at that scene.


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    I felt it fell into that category of critically acclaimed dramas where nothing really happens by the end.
    That's a genre well summed up. :D #joke

    Normal People clearly hit a common humanity for many, or at least a dramatic version of one, so that makes it pretty good out of the gate, or at least worthy of praise. It was also well put together and acted and directed and shot. It wouldn't have been something that would have resonated with me, but big deal, lots of things don't, but it did resonate with a lot of people. Millions. Fair play.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 209 ✭✭ulster


    Begrudgery isn't people giving the opinion that they didn't like something/think it's overhyped.

    You haven't even watched it. If you did watch it and didn't like it, would that be begrudgery?

    Nah I suppose you're right it's mostly just the attitude of low class people from Dublin.


  • Registered Users Posts: 575 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    I might just say on the therapy scene, which is lauded here even by detractors, that it seemed to me an unreal depiction. Someone as emotionally repressed as Connell, who had grown up as ‘one of the lads’, is unlikely to cry his heart out on his first day of therapy. But even allowing that he did, he would likely be humiliated and cover his face, etc. Connell shows none of that and talks at length through sobs. I think most men (most people?) would repeatedly stop to get their voice under control.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,331 ✭✭✭Keyzer


    pj9999 wrote: »
    Have you got a condom. I do. Good. Will I put it on. Ok go on so good man. Thanks. Will I ride you now. Ok go on so I will take off my clothes. ok.

    This is basically a summary of the entire show...


  • Moderators, Science, Health & Environment Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 60,163 Mod ✭✭✭✭Wibbs


    Drama isn't reality. Reality tends to be long drawn out, disjointed and mostly boring. The point of art, good art anyway is to hold up a mirror to reality, enhance it by skilful distortion and hopefully create meaning in the viewer.

    Rejoice in the awareness of feeling stupid, for that’s how you end up learning new things. If you’re not aware you’re stupid, you probably are.



  • Registered Users Posts: 575 ✭✭✭iffandonlyif


    MoonUnit75 wrote: »
    Yeah I agree. Although for me the best bit of female fan baiting was where the Mescal character was in Trinity and mumbled the kind of Twitter auto-responses you see every hour of every day from the people who put pronouns in their bio and the other lads were like 'wow, such penetrating insight, you should be on the debating team!'. I actually laughed at that scene.

    You say mumbled, but he was actually very forceful in his interactions with the debaters...which was completely out of character for him. The guy too shy to socialise with flatmates and speak in tutorials (despite getting 600 points and later winning ‘schols’) was confident enough in his first weeks in college to repeatedly push back against the cocky debaters.
    Wibbs wrote: »
    Drama isn't reality. Reality tends to be long drawn out, disjointed and mostly boring. The point of art, good art anyway is to hold up a mirror to reality, enhance it by skilful distortion and hopefully create meaning in the viewer.

    I think no one could but know that. All TV and film is distinctly different from everyday life. But Normal People set out to be hyper realist. The obsession, then, with believability that you see here comes from perceiving inconsistencies in how they portray reality.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,316 ✭✭✭santana75


    pj9999 wrote: »
    Am I the only one who found Normal People only… alright? Dragged out convos like this: I’m taking yer one to the debs. Ok grand. Is that ok. Ya tis. Ok so.
    Or
    Have you got a condom. I do. Good. Will I put it on. Ok go on so good man. Thanks. Will I ride you now. Ok go on so I will take off my clothes. ok.

    And herself’s bossy brother didn’t even get the comeuppance I was looking forward to at the end.

    Thankfully someone has finally said it. Its very much like the Emperor's new clothes




  • Not the worst show but people lost the run of themselves altogether on social media. Thought the acting in it was average enough.


  • Posts: 3,801 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    I liked the depiction of Connell, ignoring the major plot hole on him not playing sports at college.

    That kind of taciturn but intelligent country Irishman I’ve met in my time. Sometimes a Dub too but almost never the garrulous people of Cork and Kerry. Communication is often limited despite clear intelligence.

    And in fact that’s what caused the breakup, neither of them coming out and saying what they mean.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,219 ✭✭✭tipptom


    The part of the west of Ireland soliciters owning a villa in italy is very believable imo.
    A lot of these people have big long running family practises with massive property portfolios,a villa in Italy would be like buying next years BMW to them and a pad in Dublin is what all wealthy familys from the country do when they have a few kids to run through college in Dublin and up for shows,shopping and sex during the summer.

    Her going to the local school is a bit suspect alright but you could assume that her mother just didnt bother about her but would have been very active in what school her brother would have attended.

    I watched it all and it kept me interested for a good part but i cant remember how it finished off so that sums it up for me really,they were incredibly lucky with their timing and great to see a well shot show with good acting from an Irish drama going international.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 31,341 ✭✭✭✭odyssey06


    It was nominated for Emmy awards, Golden Globes, Critics Choice awards in the States.

    This wasn't just Irish people raving about something just because it was Irish and contemporary and not 'Oirish'.

    "To follow knowledge like a sinking star..." (Tennyson's Ulysses)



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,254 ✭✭✭sprucemoose


    fairly good show overall but maybe a little overhyped. definitely thought DEJ deserves a bit more of the praise that Mescal seems to be getting, thought she was as good if not better than him and her irish accent is pretty much the only accurate one i can think of


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,120 ✭✭✭Mister Vain


    It was decent but a bit too emotional and Dawson's Creekish for my liking.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,827 ✭✭✭monkeybutter


    This denny advert is better than normal people and some would say where his level of acting deserves to be at


    it was painful




  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 5,328 ✭✭✭Man Vs ManUre


    This denny advert is better than normal people and some would say where his level of acting deserves to be at


    it was painful



    The sausage is way bigger than his pecker anyway!!


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  • Registered Users Posts: 1,597 ✭✭✭tdf7187


    Way I see it it was the modern equivalent of This Life. A phenomenon in its time but won't date particularly well.


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