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Digital ID's for everyone

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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    EyesClosed wrote: »
    We have been through this before. Re read the thread if you want what I've already said, you love running in circles.
    OK so you are gonna avoid the question, grand so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    OK so you are gonna avoid the question, grand so.

    Siiiiiggggh....
    There are loads of other things a digital Id could be many of which have been pointed out to you here. You have ignored them and continued to copy and paste the same religious blog posts theory over and over again and won't listen to anything else. You also won't admit that it is in fact a religious theory.

    You repeat the same "facts" over and over thinking its some how a debate. You have avoided all my questions including a recent bible verse quote, so to be honest why should I give you a yes or no answer when you won't offer me the same?

    Are you going to address any of the questions you have avoided or are you just gonna spam us with the same nonsense again?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,243 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Don't ever watch links to random videos on random website, if as the other chap said if it's an injectable (nano size) chip? then it simple isn't required (within next decade anyway).

    What are you talking about?

    It's an RFID chip on a pre-filled syringe (containing the eventual vaccine for Covid19)

    It's real. You can look it up.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    What are you talking about?
    It's an RFID chip on a pre-filled syringe (containing the eventual vaccine for Covid19).

    What are you talking about?

    I Don't watch random links to random videos, on random websites, from random lads (clearly you do, lol).

    Likey this yoke does not even have a Gates/BGF/MIT Patent behind it anyway (unlike the actual proven Quantum Dot Tattoo).

    Although feel free to supply the patent if you can find it.
    An RFID (or any chip) really isn't needed by id2020.org, as a form over DigitalID, when a simple datamark embodiment will suffice, if anything it's overkill.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    EyesClosed wrote: »
    Siiiiiggggh....
    OK so you are gonna avoid the question (and use distraction/diversion)
    GRAND SO (as expected).








    "Is there a push (via id2020.org) to give a 'Digital ID's' to Everyone"?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Digital IDs for everyone, via id2020.org, yes correct dude it exists.
    Exists in plain sight and, does their own mission statement.
    But your interpretation of what their mission statement is is incorrect. You are misinterpreting Thier mission statement because you believe in a silly supernatural prophesy.
    Incorrect, 'you alone' are adding the skygod conspiracy element to this thread (lazy diversion tactic).
    Again dude, it's the central point of your belief, not a distraction. You keep proving this every time you refuse to state your position on it.
    You can keep pretend ING that it's a distraction, but no one is falling for that.
    As with id2020.org projects in
    But your tattoos are still not birth to death. They're still not persistent. They're still not biometric.

    So according to your link, they don't fit what ID2020 is looking for.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Which happend to be something KingBob, DJoe etc (all very keen athiests, and very anti-religious, btw) fawned, frothed and latched onto obsessively over for what seems like eons now. Very sad..
    Sorry, you seem to keep misspelling my name there.
    It's Mob.
    M is different from B.
    There's also a space in my name.

    You seem to keep making this mistake. It's very silly.
    Unless you're doing it on purpose as a childish tactic. Then it's extremely silly.

    Also, you're making a very false accusation about me and another poster who's name you seem to be having difficulty with...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    King Mob wrote: »
    But your interpretation of what their mission statement is is incorrect. You are misinterpreting Thier mission statement because you believe in a silly supernatural prophesy.


    Again dude, it's the central point of your belief, not a distraction. You keep proving this every time you refuse to state your position on it.
    You can keep pretend ING that it's a distraction, but no one is falling for that.

    But your tattoos are still not birth to death. They're still not persistent. They're still not biometric.

    So according to your link, they don't fit what ID2020 is looking for.

    I've googled this whole thing, the only websites that agree with this idea are religious based and deem Gates to be the anti christ.
    Accumulator just won't give a straight answer which leads me to believe he's either lying or doesn't actually believe it himself.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    But your interpretation of what their mission statement is is incorrect. You are misinterpreting Thier mission statement
    You are misinterpreting their mission statement as you are a keen athiest, and detest anything with a whiff of correlation to anything of a skygod nature.

    In reality any mention of skygods isn't needed.

    This is your own agenda dude, and your own central point to sway the topic from 'existing proven and practical Digital ID programs' that have been technologically already realised!.

    And anyone of inteligence isn't falling for this lazy diversion of topic.

    id2020.org stands on it's own (without skygods), using it's own technology and programs as a push for Digital IDs for everyone. It's support and partners reinforce this (MS-Azure cloud db, BGates patents, Rockerfella financing, GAVI vaccine delivery, Accenture Blockchain, and so on, and on...)

    King Mob wrote: »
    But your tattoos are still not birth to death. They're still not persistent. They're still not biometric.

    Not mine, dude, they're BillGates & Co!, via his direct request to the MIT Team (the founder of id2020 is also an ex-MIT chap). https://patents.google.com/patent/WO2019018301A1/en

    V1.0 (must be a decade old now!) proved 5yrs constant 24/7 UV outdoor exposure on pig skin, and still worked. MIT said they would improve this for v2 (likely near completion), and said they would upgrade the data string storage capability. Ideally suited to id2020.org's needs as it progresses.

    Also id2020.org's other founding partner (MSoft) owns a seperate Patent WO2020060606 - CRYPTOCURRENCY SYSTEM USING BODY ACTIVITY DATA

    https://patentscope.wipo.int/search/en/detail.jsf?docId=WO2020060606
    Which is the perfect tool for their Digital Wallet (combines with Digital Identifers).

    Even though they can already run digital wallets using their own current tools, as is the case in Kenya, and in Texas in another seperate program. This patent is more of a future enhancement opportunity beyond current schemes.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    EyesClosed wrote: »
    I've googled this whole thing
    Behold an expert is at hand, he has googlebotted the whole ting', he has.

    Standby...


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    You are misinterpreting their mission statement as you are a keen athiest, and detest anything with a whiff of correlation to anything of a skygod nature.

    In reality any mention of skygods isn't needed.

    This is your own agenda dude, and your own central point to sway the topic from 'existing proven and practical Digital ID programs' that have been technologically already realised!.
    But again dude, you aren't addressing the question. You keep deflecting from it.

    If it is really just a distraction, simply state that you don't believe the biblical prophesy and you don't believe that these tattoos are the mark of the beast.

    Again, you aren't going to do that though.
    We all know why.
    And anyone of inteligence isn't falling for this lazy diversion of topic.
    Who are you referring to?
    All the other posters on this thread all know that your conspiracy theory is religious in nature.

    If anyone doesn't think that and believes that it is just a distraction, please speak up.
    Not mine, dude, they're BillGates & Co!, via his direct request to the MIT Team...
    Rant....
    Mmhmm.
    But they're still not persistent. Not birth to death. Not biometric.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    EyesClosed wrote: »
    I've googled this whole thing, the only websites that agree with this idea are religious based and deem Gates to be the anti christ.
    Accumulator just won't give a straight answer which leads me to believe he's either lying or doesn't actually believe it himself.
    It's very bizarre. He is dishonest enough to keep dodging the issue and avoid stating his position even though it's a bit obvious.
    But for some reason they aren't dishonest enough to just outright lie about their position and deny they believe in a biblical prophecy.

    I don't understand why they think one level of dishonesty is acceptable and the other isn't.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    But again dude, you aren't addressing the question. You keep deflecting from it.
    You seem to have a severe basic neurological logical processing error.

    This thread is called 'Digital ID's for everyone'.
    I.e. Is there a program or initiative to give everyone on the planet a DigitalID? (Ideally en masse using a set of coherent technolgies).

    Answer: Yes, clearly.
    Skygod refrences are not required (eyeroll).
    King Mob wrote: »
    But they're still not persistent. Not birth to death. Not biometric.

    v1.0 had proven persistance for 5yrs (24/7 UV exposure), V2.0 will most likely have better and as MIT already stated, will have increased data storage capabilities. As per id2020 vaccine programs in Bangladesh, will be issued ideally at birth of subjects.

    They are unique 'synthetic' {in-body} embodiments (isn't that biometric?), that actually contain data {measurements} for all x16 other biometric values with the quantum dots (much like an QRCode array of query strings).

    Additionally..., can contain all paper and plastic card unique identifiers on top of the full suite of biometrics. A 'one for all' pass (aka bulk id/password manager) as such. Verified by the (existing) id2020 frameworks (UNiD PAIRING, Azure & Blockchain) for final tailored verification upon requests.

    Isn't the future exciting!

    It really must feel like school days for some old folks here, getting a free education on such technological matters.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    You seem to have a severe basic neurological logical processing error.

    This thread is called 'Digital ID's for everyone'.
    I.e. Is there a program or initiative to give everyone on the planet a DigitalID? (Ideally en masse using a set of coherent technolgies).

    Answer: Yes, clearly.

    .
    Again no.
    What you think this means is coloured by your bizarre religious belief.
    Skygod refrences are not required (eyeroll).
    .
    But again, the idea of a biblical prophecy is central to your conspiracy theory.
    If it's not, just state that you don't believe in the biblical prophecy.
    Every time you don't do this and dodge the question, you prove my point.
    So please continue to avoid this question all you like.
    v1.0 had proven persistance for 5yrs (24/7 UV exposure), V2.0 will most
    Rant.
    But it's still not persistent, birth to death or biometric. You keep trying to avoid that fact...


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Again no.
    Again, yes.

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    id2020 don't do skygods, btw, also a fact and already proven program, does not require any 'phrophecy' (not sure why you even think it does).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,243 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Again, yes.

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    When asked basic questions, you seem to do your utmost to completely sidestep them whilst repeatedly posting links to the same website over and over. Other conspiracy theorists in the thread are unable to tell what your conspiracy is, and when asked directly, you produce an unintelligible rant.

    This feels like the online equivalent of one of those people standing in the street holding up some doomsday sign, whilst chanting the same incomprehensible mantra over and over


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Again, yes.

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    id2020 don't do skygods, btw, also a fact and already proven program, does not require any 'phrophecy' (not sure why you even think it does).
    Yes. You keep posting this image.
    But it doesn't make your interpretation of it more valid.

    Your interpretation is based on your belief in a biblical prophesy.
    I don't know why you keep refering to this as "skygod". It's very odd.

    And even then we know that they don't want quantum dots because they don't match any of the criteria you say they want.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    When asked basic questions, you seem to do your utmost to completely sidestep it whilst repeatedly posting links to the same website over and over. Other conspiracy theorists in the thread are unable to tell what your conspiracy is, and when asked directly, you produce an unintelligible rant. This feels like the online equivalent of one of those people standing in the street holding up some doomsday sign, chanting the same incomprehensible mantra over and over
    //Jibberish.

    Do you actually have anything of use, to comment upon.

    e.g. Question (directly realative to the thread title and theme)
    Is there a program to push Digital ID's for(to) everyone?

    Y/N.

    The actual CT here, appears to atttach id2020.org's active and many proven programs (and mission statement) to a skygod's, which really isn't needed. Now that's a real conspiracy for ya'.


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Silly Gilly


    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes. You keep posting this image.
    But it doesn't make your interpretation of it more valid.

    Your interpretation is based on your belief in a biblical prophesy.
    I don't know why you keep refering to this as "skygod". It's very odd.

    And even then we know that they don't want quantum dots because they don't match any of the criteria you say they want.

    You are expecting logical answers from someone who thinks they can see patterns in random lottery draws. You would be better served banging your head against a brick wall.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    You are expecting logical answers from someone who thinks they can see patterns in random lottery draws. You would be better served banging your head against a brick wall.
    Hello there Silly! For what it's worth this uses elementary LOLN math (very basic stuff) and lol, has stufed an extra 3k in my backpocket last year, from leisurely nomimal entertaining efforts. More Lols!

    See you're a big horse gambler yourself, have you retired already?
    Haven't met a welthy horse gambler yet. would only dabble on e.g. the GrandNational myself, or if certain sudden insider bigdata patterns present a unique fiscal opportunity, but much prefer real-world markets.

    Now, anymore topic diversions, ladies and gentlemen?


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,243 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    //Jibberish.

    Do you actually have anything of use, to comment upon.

    e.g. Question (directly realative to the thread title and theme)
    Is there a program to push Digital ID's for(to) everyone?

    It's a conspiracy forum, what's your conspiracy?

    Keep it simple, it's not hard, here's an example of a conspiracy in one line: man didn't land on the moon it was all shot in a studio.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    You are expecting logical answers from someone who thinks they can see patterns in random lottery draws. You would be better served banging your head against a brick wall.

    Oh, I'm not expecting any answers at all.
    I fully expect more deflecting and ranting and poor attempts at humour.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,243 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    Hello there Silly! For what it's worth this uses elementary LOLN math (very basic stuff) and lol, has stufed an extra 3k in my backpocket last year, from leisurely nomimal entertaining efforts. More Lols!

    lol


  • Registered Users Posts: 128 ✭✭Silly Gilly


    Hello there Silly! For what it's worth this uses elementary LOLN math (very basic stuff) and lol, has stufed an extra 3k in my backpocket last year, from leisurely nomimal entertaining efforts. More Lols!

    See you're a big horse gambler yourself, have you retired already?
    Haven't met a welthy horse gambler yet. would only dabble on e.g. the GrandNational myself, or if certain sudden insider bigdata patterns present a unique fiscal opportunity, but much prefer real-world markets.

    Now, anymore topic diversions, ladies and gentlemen?

    I've never bet on a horse in my life. Unlike yourself I understand the concept of expected value. I don't have the patience of the other contributors to tolerate your nonsense so I'm going to leave it at that before I insult you.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    It's a conspiracy forum, what's your conspiracy?
    Keep it simple, it's not hard, here's an example of a conspiracy in one line: man didn't land on the moon it was all shot in a studio.
    I know it probably makes you head explode with anger, as your used to the 'Elvis is alive on Mars, silly type bantz'.

    Sit down, however, as this one is really very simple, doesn't even require skygods (unless you wish it to, as a secondary contextual item).

    Q. Is there a program to push (new) Digital IDs to everyone (on the planet)?
    A. Yes indeed, very most likely.

    Other (including yourself) disagree, fair enough. Sounds like a conspiracy does it not??? Some say yes, and wait for it.... some say no. Shocker!


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    I know it probably makes you head explode with anger, as your used to the 'Elvis is alive on Mars, silly type bantz'.
    Again you believe in a biblical prophecy about the number of the beast.
    Your theory is in the same category as "Elvis is alive on Mars, silly type bantz" I'm afraid.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    I've never bet on a horse in my life. Unlike yourself I understand the concept of expected value. I don't have the patience of the other contributors to tolerate your nonsense so I'm going to leave it at that before I insult you.
    your name Silly Gilly certainly looks familiar/similar to another of the horse folks, so you cruised into a betting thread by accident once before, and became obsessed with the Euromillions thread, fair enough, tally ho.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Again you believe in a biblical prophecy about the number of the beast.
    Your theory is in the same category as "Elvis is alive on Mars, silly type bantz" I'm afraid.
    Incorrect, once stated it's 'very interesting', of which it is, might well be something in it, also, might not be. "Interesting".

    You live in a world obsessed with random elvis on mars type stuff, so your are now angered and triggered when presented with a very plausable, simple and indeed practicle CT currently being realised.

    Q. Is there a program to push (new) Digital IDs to everyone (on the planet)?
    A. Yes indeed, very most likely.

    As such, you feel the need to connect this somehow to the moon, ufos, skygods, elvis, soros etc. Also you also desire, at all opportunity to deface or degrad (any) religion, even when it has not been raised. Curious.

    Maybe just as any very keen athiest would be. Or...honestly not being rude here, but perhaps your what may be considered luciferian satanist too, perhaps, if I may suggest, based on your angered demure. Even budda might have something to offer you, e.g. the aul alpha state mindfullness, which is all the rage these days, sure give it a lash, why not.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Incorrect, once stated it's 'very interesting', of which it is, might well be something in it, also, might not be. "Interesting".
    But again you do believe it.
    If you don't, state that you don't.
    You keep dodging this however and this keeps proving my point.
    Also you also desire, at all opportunity to deface or degrad (any) religion, even when it has not been raised. Curious.
    Lol. I have not done this at any point.
    Maybe just as any very keen athiest would be. Or...honestly not being rude here, but perhaps your what may be considered luciferian satanist too, perhaps,
    Lol.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    But again you do believe it.
    If you don't, state that you don't. You keep dodging this however and this keeps proving my point.
    Largely undecided, certainly may be something to it, but on the other hand, also sure there may not. Really depends on specifics. An open mind is a healthy mind. Certainly it's interesting is it not? (...will await you token lols and slander)
    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol. I have not done this at any point.
    Lol (more) you haven't 'not' done this, at 'every' point and opportunity: thus more lols!
    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol.
    So Y/N?
    Have a vison of you kicking kittens about the place for some reason, maybe an aul inverted hex up on your front door, and spitting when passing any type of church.

    Lol Jesting aside, and more likely, and practically is like many an (overkeen) athiest they have suffered from both personal severe tragedy and loss, hence the denoucement now, of anything within a sniffle of spiruality (a very typical reactionary blame event scenario). Ah well, sure what can you do, this is it etc.

    Meanwhile, however the CT saga continues...

    Q. Digital IDs for everyone?
    A. Yes, would seem so.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Largely undecided, certainly may be something to it, but on the other hand, also sure there may not. Really depends on specifics. An open mind is a healthy mind. Certainly it's interesting is it not? (...will await you token lols and slander)
    Again, no denial, which proves my point.
    Lol (more) you haven't 'not' done this, at 'every' point and opportunity: thus more lols!
    You've become incoherent here.
    So Y/N?
    Yes or no what exactly?
    Am I a Satanist?

    Lol
    Lol Jesting aside, and more likely, and practically is like many an (overkeen) athiest they have suffered from both personal severe tragedy and loss, hence the denoucement now, of anything within a sniffle of spiruality (a very typical reactionary blame event scenario). Ah well, sure what can you do, this is it etc.
    Lol
    Meanwhile, however the CT saga continues...

    Q. Digital IDs for everyone?
    A. Yes, would seem so.
    A: No, not in the way you believe as your belief is based on a silly supernatural prophesy which is making you twist and misinterpret things to fit that prophecy.
    We keep answering this question, yet you keep asking it...


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    Also as a person who works in tech, embedding a load of data on a tattoo is a pretty bad design choice. It's not remotely guaranteed to last until death and that applies to the vast majority of storage. So once again, retina would be the most reliable way to identify an individual with all data being on the cloud.

    Now Accumulator will likely shout some buzz words and laugh at my ignorance.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    Also as a person who works in tech, embedding a load of data on a tattoo is a pretty bad design choice. It's not remotely guaranteed to last until death and that applies to the vast majority of storage. So once again, retina would be the most reliable way to identify an individual with all data being on the cloud.

    Now Accumulator will likely shout some buzz words and laugh at my ignorance.

    He's also avoided my question around the bible being anti tattoo, so how would any Christian get this tattoo is beyond me.
    I don't even agree with the tattoo nonsense anyway, but the bible verse is just another massive plot hole.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Also as a person who works in tech, embedding a load of data on a tattoo is a pretty bad design choice. It's not remotely guaranteed to last until death and that applies to the vast majority of storage. So once again, retina would be the most reliable way to identify an individual with all data being on the cloud.
    Now Accumulator will likely shout some buzz words and laugh at my ignorance.
    Lols, sorry old chap but 'ignorance' would be putting it mildly.

    An Iris scan is 'readable' only.

    QDT is 'writable' (6kb min) then also (more easily, and from greater distance) readable (not to mention also conductive, with potential to act as a passive antenna {copper & polymer}). This is even before we get on to UnID Pairing.

    Welcome to komputers 101 (more lols!)

    Topic for Day 1's introductory class was the tricky topic of 'read vs write' data.
    Tommorow guide, is how to turn de komputers off... then on again.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Lols, sorry old chap but 'ignorance' would be putting it mildly.

    An Iris scan is 'readable' only.

    QDT is 'writable' (6kb min) then also (more easily, and from greater distance) readable (not to mention also conductive, with potential to act as a passive antenna {copper & polymer}). This is even before we get on to UnID Pairing.

    But the QDT is only linking to information in the cloud. They don't contain any more information than a memorised code would. Iris scans can also do that.
    But they have the benefit of actually being persistent, birth to death and biometric.

    We also know that while quantum dot tattoos have not actually been shown to work as a passive antenna at any distance. (Not sure why you say copper and polymer... seems a bit like technobabble.)
    And even if it could, it could easily be blocked or faked.
    On the other hand, iris scans can be performed at a great distance. There is research on going where they can be read at up to 60 feet.

    And again, iris scans can also be paired to UN identification just as easily as quantum dots.
    And iris scans can also be used in tandem with any number of other biometrics.

    You only believe that quantum dot tattoos are the best option because you want this to fit to your biblical prophesy.
    It's what many of the sources you've linked to also do.
    It's also what conspiracy theorists like yourself did with barcodes....


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    Lols, sorry old chap but 'ignorance' would be putting it mildly.

    An Iris scan is 'readable' only.

    QDT is 'writable' (6kb min) then also (more easily, and from greater distance) readable (not to mention also conductive, with potential to act as a passive antenna {copper & polymer}). This is even before we get on to UnID Pairing.

    Welcome to komputers 101 (more lols!)

    Topic for Day 1's introductory class was the tricky topic of 'read vs write' data.
    Tommorow guide, is how to turn de komputers off... then on again.

    And if you got a flesh wound that removes your quantum dot?(doubt it would survive a tattoo either) Persistence gone... Meanwhile ultimately all you need is an identifier that can be cross referenced online and retrieve all information on an individual.

    "Komputers 101", your proposed system is terribly designed and only to fulfill a particular conspiracy you're into.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    And if you got a flesh wound that removes your quantum dot?(doubt it would survive a tattoo either) Persistence gone... .
    Then...



    ...all travel, welfare, access to all public services such as libraries, internet cafes, education, driving, insurance, internet shopping and banking, access to +18 venues, telephonics or cable, mail redirection and collection, enterprise, rent, home ownership (and on and on, and on) all up in smoke and nullified.


    You may get a final (second chance) using the other arm, (maybe) at a cost.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    But the QDT is only linking to information in the cloud.
    Wrong.

    The pattern in itself can act as a complex, unique, multi-query data string. Cryptographic, but in more simple terms a juiced up QRCode.
    King Mob wrote: »
    They don't contain any more information than a memorised code would.
    Wrong, and jibberish.

    16kb (at the older ver.1) is a whole lot of charachters. can you memorise a random complie, of sequenced 4,296 alphanumeric characters? Sure you can, this will far exceed that old QRC based standard figure anyhow.
    King Mob wrote: »
    Iris scans can also do that.
    For the xth time, An iris scan is a read-only source (one of 16 biometrics), it cannot be assigned a new value. A unique standardised identifer can be assigned using QDT, ideal for a central db. The QDT can certainly use an Iris (or any of the 15 other measurements) as biometric static value, or old even paper/card IDs: as 2nd stage verification, then paired with another assigned UNiD pre-crypto, again to suit the platform and processing.
    King Mob wrote: »
    But they have the benefit of actually being persistent, birth to death and biometric.
    It 'becomes' a synthetic embodiment, thus becomes an effective bio-measurement itself. It also stores x16 other biometric values (along with various other personal data) within it's own single value chain, clever eh?
    King Mob wrote: »
    We also know that while quantum dot tattoos have not actually been shown to work as a passive antenna at any distance. (Not sure why you say copper and polymer... seems a bit like technobabble.)
    So you're ignorant to the fact that copper is conductive, and that it also uses modern polymers during it's manufacture stage. Ah well, you know as of now. May as well update you to the fluorescent aspect too, while here.
    King Mob wrote: »
    And even if it could, it could easily be blocked or faked.
    You can also hide your card based driving licence, and this serves what purpose exactly other than self-denial of right to drive?

    How can it be faked... do you have nano particle manipulation capabilities, with the ability to alter nano structures to new precise assignable values? Far out dude, well done, think NASA are hiring, call now 555....
    King Mob wrote: »
    On the other hand, iris scans can be performed at a great distance. There is research on going where they can be read at up to 60 feet.

    Lols, when people use the word 'research ongoing' its smells of fakery
    When exactly is the last time you got an iris scan, was this in a james bond dream where you saved the world?

    Most of us have used fingers to access offices for over 10yrs now or even just to exit JFK, where backlogs are already common. Besides FRS can scan 200 heads (per second), China grabbed a lad out of a stadium of 30,000 using 'find the face'. Try playing the same game searching for the interior patterns of eyeballs from hundreds of feet away, on fairly standard camera optics on a sunny day (sunglasses galore).
    Granted the US and Sweden are starting to move to RFID, but this a more of an invasive, timely and expensive operation, tham the 1sec, just below skin QDT marking.
    King Mob wrote: »
    And again, iris scans can also be paired to UN identification just as easily as quantum dots.nd iris scans can also be used in tandem with any number of other biometrics.
    So e.g. you're in the Med, and happen to pick up a dingy that holds the Ace of Spades, do you... pull out some magical bulky iris scanner with full battery on choppy seas, and upload such raw data, assuming co-operation...

    Or use any standard mobile, with standard camera, standard app, and quickly photo his arm (even with 1bar) to verify in under 1sec via Azure the (secure) ID. Then at port, you can choose one of 16 other biometrics to further validate the initial QDT ID response (16 stage verification, each on blockchain encryption).
    King Mob wrote: »
    You only believe that quantum dot tattoos are the best option because... ...
    ...Because BillyGates after throwing millions at his MIT team, was told this is the (current) best soloution, and shown an early (now superseeded) proof of concept for both data storage and as a mechanism of vaccine delivery certification (aka his COVID-esq immunity passport).


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Wrong.

    The pattern in itself can act as a complex, unique, multi-query data string. Cryptographic, but in more simple terms a juiced up QRCode.
    Lol.
    Wrong, and gibberish.

    Also, an Iris scan can also act as a "juiced up QRCode".
    16kb (at the older ver.1) is a whole lot of charachters. can you memorise a random complie, of sequenced 4,296 alphanumeric characters? Sure you can, this will far exceed that old QRC based standard figure anyhow.
    And an iris is far far more unique.
    For the xth time, An iris scan is a read-only source (one of 16 biometrics), it cannot be assigned a new value. A unique standardised identifer can be assigned using QDT, ideal for a central db. The QDT can certainly use an Iris (or any of the 15 other measurements) as biometric static value, or old even paper/card IDs: as 2nd stage verification, then paired with another assigned UNiD pre-crypto, again to suit the platform and processing.


    It 'becomes' a synthetic embodiment, thus becomes an effective bio-measurement itself. It also stores x16 other biometric values (along with various other personal data) within it's own single value chain, clever eh?

    Wrong, and gibberish.
    So you're ignorant to the fact that copper is conductive, and that it also uses modern polymers during it's manufacture stage. Ah well, you know as of now. May as well update you to the fluorescent aspect too, while here.
    Yes, I know that copper is conductive.
    But it's a bit weird and nonsensical to just blurt it out randomly in brackets.
    You can also hide your card based driving licence, and this serves what purpose exactly other than self-denial of right to drive?
    You've previously rejected other methods of identification based on the ability to hide it. You don't apply the same standard to your preferred method because you have another motive for wanting Quantum Dot Tattoos to be the best option.
    How can it be faked... do you have nano particle manipulation capabilities, with the ability to alter nano structures to new precise assignable values? Far out dude, well done, think NASA are hiring, call now 555....
    Or you use another kind of transmitter (Copper!) to overwrite the transmission from your mark of the beast.
    It wouldn't be hard at all.
    Lols, when people use the word 'research ongoing' its smells of fakery
    When exactly is the last time you got an iris scan, was this in a james bond dream where you saved the world?
    Lol, and again when it's pointed out to you that quantum dot tattoos can't actually do the things you claim, you say that research is ongoing.

    If "research ongoing smells of fakery, then quantum dot tattoos can only last 5 years. They can't be used as transmitters. They can't glow under UV light. They can't be detected at any kind of long range.

    However, again you don't apply the same standard to the idea of Quantum Dot tattoos.

    Most of us have used fingers to access offices for over 10yrs now or even just to exit JFK, where backlogs are already common. Besides FRS can scan 200 heads (per second), China grabbed a lad out of a stadium of 30,000 using 'find the face'. Try playing the same game searching for the interior patterns of eyeballs from hundreds of feet away, on fairly standard camera optics on a sunny day (sunglasses galore).
    Granted the US and Sweden are starting to move to RFID, but this a more of an invasive, timely and expensive operation, tham the 1sec, just below skin QDT marking.
    So e.g. you're in the Med, and happen to pick up a dingy that holds the Ace of Spades, do you...
    Lol, More gibberish.
    pull out some magical bulky iris scanner with full battery on choppy seas, and upload such raw data, assuming co-operation...

    Or use any standard mobile, with standard camera, standard app, and quickly photo his arm (even with 1bar) to verify in under 1sec via Azure the (secure) ID. Then at port, you can choose one of 16 other biometrics to further validate the initial QDT ID response (16 stage verification, each on blockchain encryption).
    Again, you are being a massive hypocrite here.
    Why do you believe that it requires a bulky iris scanner?
    Why do you believe a slim, convenient and efficient scanner can't be developed?
    Why do you believe an app or similar can't be develop to allow a phone to also do this?

    Again, you are apply different standards unfairly and artificially to reach a prefered conclusion.
    It's very obvious and very silly.
    ...Because BillyGates after throwing millions at his MIT team, was told this is the (current) best soloution, and shown an early (now superseeded) proof of concept for both data storage and as a mechanism of vaccine delivery certification (aka his COVID-esq immunity passport).
    But Billy Gates also has thrown money at Iris scans.
    You've been shown the working prototypes.
    The links you have provided also say that iris scans are the best option.

    But again, you are bending over backwards and being pretty dishonest so you can claim that quantum dot tattoos are the only option.

    This is because you have a very strange belief that the bible predicted quantum dot tattoos.
    You can keep throwing out as much technobabble gibberish as you like, but the fact that this is the central point of your conspiracy theory robs you of any credibility.
    It's why you keep dodging the point and refuse to be honest about it.
    You know that most people will rightly dismiss you claims out of hand if they know it's because it's a silly fringe religious belief about the mark of the beast.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Then...



    ...all travel, welfare, access to all public services such as libraries, internet cafes, education, driving, insurance, internet shopping and banking, access to +18 venues, telephonics or cable, mail redirection and collection, enterprise, rent, home ownership (and on and on, and on) all up in smoke and nullified.


    You may get a final (second chance) using the other arm, (maybe) at a cost.
    And all of that is pure, paranoid speculation.
    None of it is actually claimed by any of your links and is the result of your strange, cultlike belief in the mark of the beast.


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  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    And all of that is pure, paranoid speculation.
    None of it is actually claimed by any of your links and is the result of your strange, cultlike belief in the mark of the beast.
    lol, You have mentioned beasts here (repeatedly), no one else.

    Paranoid, much, eh?



    This thread is based on factual evidence and current technologies, it does not require any supplimentary speculation.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    lol, You have mentioned beasts here (repeatedly), no one else.

    Paranoid, much, eh?
    But again, it's the central belief to your theory. You believe these quantum dots are the mark of the beast predicted in the bible.
    You just aren't honest enough to admit this is the case because you know it will turn the vast majority of people off your theory.
    Because your theory is silly.
    This thread is based on factual evidence and current technologies, it does not require any supplimentary speculation.
    But what you are doing is entirely supplementary speculation.

    For example, you just claimed that quantum dot tattoos will be required to access a large amount of services and removal of your tattoo will result in you being denied these services.
    That's all in your imagination.

    And your imagination is coloured by your fringe religious beliefs.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol. Wrong..
    Lol (actually much more lols directed for you)

    You are very wrong, and ignorance of basic facts.
    Have you even ever yourself complied (output) a simple QRCode?

    Very elementary simple stuff really, takes all of 5secs.
    King Mob wrote: »
    Also, an Iris scan can also act as a "juiced up QRCode".
    This funny, very funny indeed. But also gibberish.
    Can't help but thinking you're close to pensionable age (based on ignorance of technology). You cannot assign (write) data (muti string queries) and output it as an Iris image (not without nano lasers, and sudden onset blindness. Ugh, don't do this, btw).

    King Mob wrote: »
    Yes, I know that copper is conductive.
    And... you know it has potential like the unique tailored QDT pattern, to be written with a equally unique identifier (pattern), thus potential as a unique 'conductive' passive antenna repsonse upon both visual and RF conductive scans. This again is a enhancement option, and not even within the MIT proposal.
    King Mob wrote: »
    You've previously rejected other methods of identification based on the ability to hide it.
    Nonsense talk, lols. All/any raw (even paper digitised) data can be used, the more the merrier, mutliple strings are fine and workable, the more the better, all 16 biometrics and all paperwork, load it up.
    King Mob wrote: »
    You don't apply the same standard to your preferred method because you have another motive for wanting Quantum Dot Tattoos to be the best option.
    MIT presented the QDT to BillGates as the best option (immunity passports, and as per the patent's schedule: for vaccine use). Nada (zilch) to do with me (what a very funny assumption you have presented here).
    King Mob wrote: »
    Or you use another kind of transmitter (Copper!) to overwrite the transmission from your mark of the beast. It wouldn't be hard at all.
    You sure love these beasts, whatever they are, lols.

    Again your displaying some ignorance here once again... there is no 'transmission' invoked, with a 'passive' antenna (unpowered).

    Now this copper polymer isn't even the active solution (its only a potential enhancement, yes). The actual QDT application's function MIT proposed, is via a very simple UV (or iRed), scan, which delivers a read return, from an earlier unique written input. You're maybe a decade ahead of onself here, grand so, no worries.
    King Mob wrote: »
    Lol, and again when it's pointed out to you that quantum dot tattoos can't actually do the things you claim, you say that research is ongoing.
    v1 is circa a decade old, having already spent 5yrs under 24/7 UV exposure already. The MIT team promised enhancements, when (they, not me) presented that early proof of concept to BillGates, in return for this million$. Good value all the same.
    King Mob wrote: »

    If "research ongoing smells of fakery, then quantum dot tattoos can only last 5 years. They can't be used as transmitters. They can't glow under UV light. They can't be detected at any kind of long range.
    Proven concept by MIT. No one ever claimed any tranmission (you're confused, again old boy). Yes they glow under any standard optics (same as a TV remote fired at any camera), and under 'both' UV/iRed (as MIT stated).

    Yes scanable at range, depending on optics on simple cameras.

    Yes MIT promised enhancements. I often scan very small QRCs at distance using 10yr old technology, with near instant server-side processing returns, handy dandy.
    King Mob wrote: »
    Right now, there isn't any phone app that can do what you claim.
    One of my decade old phones, can photograph iRed easily, can read QRCs (data patterns) and fulfil such requests with ease. A QDT is very similar indeed, Chances are even an iphone3 with x5 zoom could pull the pattern at ease.
    King Mob wrote: »
    The quantum dot tattoo that does all you claim doesn't yet exist either. You believe that these things are under development.
    Proof of (existing) concept delivered to Gates, Press Release issued as to success (vaccine immunity certificates).
    King Mob wrote: »
    But Billy Gates also has thrown money at Iris scans.
    Which are (again) non data writable simple single measurments, comprende!
    King Mob wrote: »
    The links you have provided also say that iris scans are the best option.
    As a (single) passive raw data reading they unique. However, unprocessed, and UNiD unpaired, they are meaningless, without such pairing, assignment, platforming and blockchain Azure processing, and with a final output delivery mechanism they do not fulfil id2020 needs on their own.

    The other link in Texas prefers to use both face and hand scans, instead of the iris, before using id2020's platforms. It also uses the digitisation of all paper/card data, almost like a biometric measure. The source point does not matter. id2020 in Kenya even uses a voice-metrics as primary choice, along with paper digitised. The mutli-stage cloud processing and encryption (pairing) platform, with standardised output (often also a QRC) is the real key.
    King Mob wrote: »
    But again, you are bending over backwards and being pretty dishonest so you can claim that quantum dot tattoos are the only option.
    But again you are confusing me with MIT (thanks!), their brief, and thus their solution. Would like to take the credit for the world's #1 school, buy hey won't actually.

    King Mob wrote: »
    ... technobabble
    You shoudda stayed/went to school, your constant references to beasts is remarkable btw, truely fascinating for a keen athiest.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    ory. You believe these quantum dots are the mark of the beast ....


    May I call you the beastman? The QDT is what MIT on behalf of Gates, believe. As the best solution (immunity certifications) for the inbound 7bn vaccines. As per the brief, as per the patent.


    They may well use something else, that will function as an assigned (writable) + readable (scanable) unique data point. via embodiment seems to be a constant factor however.


    The good news is that Europe may well be the last to experience such markings, Gates attention has been redirected to S.America of late, with areas of the Far East, and naturally Africa already of primary concern. He's likely also aware Africa (FWIW )will have 2.5bn by 2050, half of which under 25yo. Just sayin' as that's a lot of mouths to feed is it not?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    May I call you the beastman?
    If you like.
    It doesn't really address the issue though.

    You believe that Quantum Dot Tattoos are the mark of the beast as predicted by the bible.
    That's a very silly notion.

    And because you subscribe to such a silly notion, the rest of your claims, technobabble and all, are also highly likely to be coloured by your strange fringe religious belief, and thus aren't accurate.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 25,488 ✭✭✭✭King Mob


    Can't help but thinking you're close to pensionable age

    You shoudda stayed/went to school, your constant references to beasts is remarkable btw, truely fascinating for a keen athiest.
    Please, keep going with your accusations. You're getting very close.

    I am indeed a Satanic pensioner who is also an atheist because of my tragic past.

    You're very good at guessing.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 18,243 ✭✭✭✭Dohnjoe


    I know it probably makes you head explode with anger, as your used to the 'Elvis is alive on Mars, silly type bantz'.

    Sit down, however, as this one is really very simple, doesn't even require skygods (unless you wish it to, as a secondary contextual item).

    Q. Is there a program to push (new) Digital IDs to everyone (on the planet)?
    A. Yes indeed, very most likely.

    Other (including yourself) disagree, fair enough. Sounds like a conspiracy does it not??? Some say yes, and wait for it.... some say no. Shocker!

    Disagree with what?

    There is a project for global digital ID - that's not a conspiracy

    What is the conspiracy?


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    King Mob wrote: »
    And because you subscribe to such a silly notion
    Problemo is, you are constantly pushing this angle, not me ('beasts' are mentioned in nearly every single post of yours). Interesting stuff all the same, insightful if nothing else.

    I've even suggested elsewhere, that the other relative MSoft patent suffix (606060), and the use of a Luciferase {lucifer} (oxidative enzymes that produce bioluminescence), as used in the QDT...are both most likely 'flukes' and/or 'humour' from both the Patent office, and the other coincidential via Latin scientific termonology, in describing flouresents. But sure, also keep an open mind for the (small,much less likely chance) it could well be something else.


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 9,586 ✭✭✭4068ac1elhodqr


    Dohnjoe wrote: »
    Disagree with what?
    There is a project for global digital ID - that's not a conspiracy
    What is the conspiracy?
    Finally, someone with more sense than KingBob, and not in a state of 'ultimate denial'.

    Yes indeed, agree a significant program does exist (via id2020) for DigitalIDs.

    Their (own) terminology is actually: an opportunity for an 'unpredented push', to offer (aka push), this new unique platform (likely manditory), with all it's prescribed features, and processes 'to everyone on the planet'. It's also very well backed under the UN's 2030 Sustainable Development Goals, so not any work of fiction, as some other may perceive.

    Thus the only CT relates to the exact features, method(s) of realisation, and indeed ultimate intentional primary/secondary use of such.

    Further more, am not claiming it's a bad thing, nor a lol 'beast'. Although the pushed 'greater good' use of this, depends largely upon the previous paragraph.

    It's a natural technological development as such, the other real big question, is whether or not the planet would be ready (right now), for such a program. Another few decades, sure very little issues after more gradual natural evoloution, but rollout perhaps within the next couple of years: can forsee major 'issues'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,453 ✭✭✭EyesClosed


    Finally, someone with more sense than KingBob, and not in a state of 'ultimate denial'.

    Yes indeed, agree a significant program does exist (via id2020) for DigitalIDs.

    Their (own) terminology is actually: an opportunity for an 'unpredented push', to offer (aka push), this new unique platform (likely manditory), with all it's prescribed features, and processes 'to everyone on the planet'. It's also very well backed under the UN's 2030 Sustainable Development Goals, so not any work of fiction, as some other may perceive.

    Thus the only CT relates to the exact features, method(s) of realisation, and indeed ultimate intentional primary/secondary use of such.

    Further more, am not claiming it's a bad thing, nor a lol 'beast'. Although the pushed 'greater good' use of this, depends largely upon the previous paragraph.

    It's a natural technological development as such, the other real big question, is whether or not the planet would be ready (right now), for such a program. Another few decades, sure very little issues after more gradual natural evoloution, but rollout perhaps within the next couple of years: can forsee major 'issues'.

    And the conspiracy is what exactly?


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