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An Garda Síochána - COVID19

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    #902
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    Latest on Gowlwatch...


    https://www.breakingnews.ie/amp/ireland/gardai-fine-man-attempting-to-climb-carrauntoohil-during-level-5-restrictions-1068778.html


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    #903
    silverharp
    Registered Users Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    whisky_galore wrote: »
    Latest on Gowlwatch...


    https://www.breakingnews.ie/amp/ireland/gardai-fine-man-attempting-to-climb-carrauntoohil-during-level-5-restrictions-1068778.html

    why the comments about what he was wearing?, unless they have a pic of him in a t-shirt , boxers and flip flops colour me skeptical

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #904
    Thats me
    Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    Allinall wrote: »
    Obviously the Gardai can’t force you to talk.

    It won’t stop you getting arrested, though.

    The question was: "are you obliged to give the name and address of the person you're travelling to see?"


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    #905
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    Thats me wrote: »
    But you are not obliged to answer question.
    Why would someone who is behaving lawfully not answer?
    If you don't answer then It would be assumed that you're getting stroppy with the garda and, deservedly, will be dealt with accordingly.


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    #906
    Seth Brundle
    Moderators, Politics Moderators Posts: 39,628 Mod ✭✭✭✭Seth Brundle


    silverharp wrote: »
    why the comments about what he was wearing?, unless they have a pic of him in a t-shirt , boxers and flip flops colour me skeptical
    Because with the current cold weather and more forecasted, he would soon require mountain rescue to save his stupid ass!


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    #907
    silverharp
    Registered Users Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Because with the current cold weather and more forecasted, he would soon require mountain rescue to save his stupid ass!

    Im not saying there arent idiots out there but seems convenient that our boi couldnt get anything right.

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #908
    Thats me
    Registered Users Posts: 639 ✭✭✭Thats me


    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    Why would someone who is behaving lawfully not answer?

    Why not, there could be many reasons. Also, if you try to put the phrase "Why would someone who is behaving lawfully not answer gardai question?" into google search you will find some serious reasons.

    Seth Brundle wrote: »
    If you don't answer then It would be assumed that you're getting stroppy with the garda and, deservedly, will be dealt with accordingly.

    Assumptions does not work. Garda should have reasonable grounds for suspecting that you committed an offence to have you arrested.


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    #909
    whisky_galore
    Registered Users Posts: 16,202 ✭✭✭✭whisky_galore


    silverharp wrote: »
    Im not saying there arent idiots out there but seems convenient that our boi couldnt get anything right.

    There's something about a dusting of snow in this country that turns grown adults into idiots.
    Arra shur tis only a bit of a hill, my Super Dry jacket and Levi's will be grand for it.


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    #910
    C__MC
    Registered Users Posts: 3,164 ✭✭✭C__MC


    Must some kitty in the bank for all these checkpoints
    Youd wonder how sustainable it would be


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    #911
    Allinall
    Registered Users Posts: 6,674 ✭✭✭Allinall


    Thats me wrote: »
    The question was: "are you obliged to give the name and address of the person you're travelling to see?"

    Where was that asked?


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    #912
    oneilla
    Registered Users Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭oneilla


    Allinall wrote: »
    Where was that asked?

    I asked it here...
    oneilla wrote: »
    Suppose you're travelling (outside of your own locality) on your way to see someone you're in a support bubble, are you obliged to give the name and address of the person you're travelling to see?


    I am aware that you've to give your own details to a Garda. My question is do you have to give details of the person you're on your way to visit?

    I'd assume there's common sense if you say you're dropping something off to your parent or grandparent etc, but in a case of someone in a support bubble with a friend/boyfriend/whatever, can they demand the name and address of your bubble?


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    #913
    [Deleted User]
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    They can't demand , they may ask who they are, like if I say I'm going to see my mother, for example, they may ask where.
    But they don't demand it, no.


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    #914
    oneilla
    Registered Users Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭oneilla


    Maybe they can't demand it, but to rephrase the question, are they asking for the namees and addresses of people one is visiting?


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    #915
    [Deleted User]
    Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    oneilla wrote: »
    Maybe they can't demand it, but to rephrase the question, are they asking for the namees and addresses of people one is visiting?

    I haven't been asked, not heard of anyone being asked, but there's nothing to stop them asking.


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    #916
    gzckrg
    Registered Users Posts: 16 ✭gzckrg


    Do you know if gardai can stop house parties now? I have very irresponsible neighbors who throw parties every other week. I keep calling gardai. Everytime, gardai arrives, they turn off the music a bit and don't open the door. then gardai leaves. They continue their party...


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    #917
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,690 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    gzckrg wrote: »
    Do you know if gardai can stop house parties now? I have very irresponsible neighbors who throw parties every other week. I keep calling gardai. Everytime, gardai arrives, they turn off the music a bit and don't open the door. then gardai leaves. They continue their party...

    Just the fact that you actually get the Gards to show up is an achievement... House parties have been going on all over Dublin since this whole cycle of Lockdowns begun, and in many areas in Dublin you can call the Gards as much as you want but the chances of them showing up.... little to no chance..


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    #918
    Donald Trump
    Registered Users Posts: 19,431 ✭✭✭✭Donald Trump


    Thats me wrote: »
    But you are not obliged to answer question.




    It is against the current, legally binding, temporary measures to leave your place of residence for a non essential reason without a reasonable excuse. If you leave for the purposes of exercise, then you are limited to a 5km radius of your place of residence.



    If you do not give a reasonable excuse, then I would imagine that the Guard is likely to form the opinion that you do not have one and can issue you a fine. Which you can appeal later of course or go to court. You can even do a Gemma O'Doherty and claim some UN convention on human rights if you want.


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    #919
    seaniewicklow
    Registered Users Posts: 34 ✭seaniewicklow


    Where do we report companies breaking rules... To the local Garda or to who?


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    #920
    paw patrol
    Registered Users Posts: 2,312 ✭✭✭paw patrol


    some gardai are the worst self righteous cnuts.
    seems to be the younger ones too mid 20s.

    I have been told
    "straight home now after your shopping" on my way to supermarket.

    friend was told this weekend
    "go home and do what the government has asked"
    despite being on his way home and being about 1km from his house.

    then the raided the shebeen out swords way.
    armed response unit . ffs


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    #921
    beggars_bush
    Registered Users Posts: 4,478 ✭✭✭beggars_bush


    seaniewicklow wrote: »
    Where do we report companies breaking rules... To the local Garda or to who?

    Health and safety authority?


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    #922
    silverharp
    Registered Users Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    paw patrol wrote: »
    some gardai are the worst self righteous cnuts.
    seems to be the younger ones too mid 20s.

    I have been told
    "straight home now after your shopping" on my way to supermarket.

    friend was told this weekend
    "go home and do what the government has asked"
    despite being on his way home and being about 1km from his house.

    then the raided the shebeen out swords way.
    armed response unit . ffs

    Im feeling under policed , Id like to see them try that crack with the "straight home" where I am :pac:

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #923
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Can anyone explain the 5km rule.

    Is it as the crow flies or 5km of travel by the roads?

    I was out for a run yesterday with 5km (4.5 km distance 5.9km road distance) of my house. I was stopped running by a member of An Garda Siochanna. I was asked my address and was told I was too far from home.

    I protested and he called over a colleague who said to run on and take this as a warning and stay inside my 5km in future.


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    #924
    is_that_so
    Registered Users Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    CIARAN_BOYLE wrote: »
    Can anyone explain the 5km rule.

    Is it as the crow flies or 5km of travel by the roads?

    I was out for a run yesterday with 5km (4.5 km distance 5.9km road distance) of my house. I was stopped running by a member of An Garda Siochanna. I was asked my address and was told I was too far from home.

    I protested and he called over a colleague who said to run on and take this as a warning and stay inside my 5km in future.
    Some of them are complete sticklers but I've only met one who felt I needed a lecture about my attitude.
    As for your run there is little point arguing or getting annoyed and use this!
    https://2kmfromhome.com/


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    #925
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    is_that_so wrote: »
    Some of them are complete sticklers but I've only met one who felt I needed a lecture about my attitude.
    As for your run there is little point arguing or getting annoyed and use this!
    https://2kmfromhome.com/

    I was using something like that.

    I was told that I was out of my distance because i would need to travel more than 5km on the roads no matter the actual distance.


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    #926
    Stark
    Registered Users Posts: 20,978 ✭✭✭✭Stark


    Yeah that's BS. Absolutely everyone has been using the site is_that_so recommended, it was even recommended on RTE and not a single official source has come out to say that it's wrong.


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    #927
    silverharp
    Registered Users Posts: 18,205 ✭✭✭✭silverharp


    Its definitely radius, worst assumption is that they understand rules they are expected to enforce

    A belief in gender identity involves a level of faith as there is nothing tangible to prove its existence which, as something divorced from the physical body, is similar to the idea of a soul. - Colette Colfer



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    #928
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    silverharp wrote: »
    Its definitely radius, worst assumption is that they understand rules they are expected to enforce

    Figured that.


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    #929
    Kimbot
    Moderators, Computer Games Moderators, Social & Fun Moderators Posts: 18,545 Mod ✭✭✭✭Kimbot


    I have met a good few guards at checkpoints in the last week alone and all have been very pleasant to deal with in fairness.


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    #930
    CIARAN_BOYLE
    Moderators, Sports Moderators Posts: 14,599 Mod ✭✭✭✭CIARAN_BOYLE


    Kimbot wrote: »
    I have met a good few guards at checkpoints in the last week alone and all have been very pleasant to deal with in fairness.

    At the end of the days the guards are people.

    Some are idiots and some are grand.

    Some are just in bad form because the last person they had to deal with cursed them out and take it out in the next person they see.


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    #931
    Tenzor07
    Registered Users Posts: 8,690 ✭✭✭Tenzor07


    paw patrol wrote: »
    some gardai are the worst self righteous cnuts.
    seems to be the younger ones too mid 20s.

    Let me guess, you're also in your 20's? :D

    Any of them I've spoken to have been 100%, smile, "hello, gard, i'm just off to the shops/work/funeral...etc..." have a nice day...

    The impression I get is they really don't wanna be standing out in the middle of the road freezing all day, so although I don't agree with the 5k restrictions it's not the ordinary Gard who i'd take it up with...


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