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An Garda Síochána - COVID19

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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,096 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    pjohnson wrote: »
    I wonder have any patriots tried claiming the guy firing the firework was a garda in disguise yet? Thats normally the excuse they use.

    Niall Boylan did

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,301 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    RTE news : Harris clarifies 'far-left' remark over Dublin protest

    http://www.rte.ie/news/ireland/2021/0228/1199831-dublin-protests/

    So no surprise no sign "far left" involved


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,301 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Niall Boylan did
    Then deleted it lol


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,301 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Niall Boylan did
    https://twitter.com/ConorGallaghe_r/status/1365723176152489994?s=19
    Sure the gardai are mad for fireworks, I believe they give them pepper spray and a packet of sparklers after completing training...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,096 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Ok why don't the organizers have public profiles and publicly condemn the actions of that idiot?

    The general population who are fed up with the restrictions are never going to get behind and support a faceless group, especially one that pretends to be associated with a political party that it isn't.

    You mention FF there - what about the largest party in opposition - SF - why aren't they supporting any rise from restrictions or labour, or even the likes of people before profit - why aren't they putting their names to these marches?

    Because SF and PBP dont support these marches

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 1,605 ✭✭✭IngazZagni




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    ShineOn7 wrote: »
    Best quality I can get from YouTube clip

    Looks like the same guy

    The Guards have him either way

    I hope that they get his friend who lit it for him.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 32,136 ✭✭✭✭is_that_so


    Ace2007 wrote: »
    Ok why don't the organizers have public profiles and publicly condemn the actions of that idiot?

    The general population who are fed up with the restrictions are never going to get behind and support a faceless group, especially one that pretends to be associated with a political party that it isn't.

    You mention FF there - what about the largest party in opposition - SF - why aren't they supporting any rise from restrictions or labour, or even the likes of people before profit - why aren't they putting their names to these marches?
    This is just another usual suspects march. We get quite a few annually and it's a lot of the same faces regardless of the theme of the protest. This one seemed to coalesce all the malcontents in one place, including the "fight da pigs" factions.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 1,714 ✭✭✭ThewhiteJesus


    At least no one was shot dead this time


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,239 ✭✭✭Jimbob1977


    The boy who lit the firework looked about 13 years old.

    A likely "slap on the wrist" in juvenile court.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,123 ✭✭✭Billy Ocean


    IngazZagni wrote: »
    I'd call that scrambling myself....


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 4,659 ✭✭✭jackboy


    Niall Boylan did

    Where in Boylan’s tweet does he say it was a Garda in disguise who did it?


  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2021/0228/1199811-dublin-protest-courts/
    What tickles me is that 6 of them wore masks in court!

    “ Thirteen people were brought before Dublin District Court last night, charged in connection with protests in Dublin city centre yesterday afternoon.

    The 12 men and one woman were brought before a special sitting of the court and charged with breaches of the Public Order Act.

    Some of the defendants were charged with multiple breaches of the Act while some face just one charge.

    The offences before the court included threatening, abusive and insulting behaviour, failing to comply with the direction of a garda, obstructing a garda and giving a false name or address.

    The offences were alleged to have taken place in various locations in the city centre including Grafton Street and O'Connell street.

    The youngest defendants were two 19-year-old men.

    The oldest was 59-year-old Fergus Cahill from Shankill in Co Dublin, whose 25-year-old son, Caoilte, was also before the court, with both facing three public order charges each.

    The defendants also included 26-year-old twin brothers.

    Those before the court also had addresses in Crumlin, Drimnagh, the south and north city centre and Finglas.

    One man was homeless, some are not working and others work in various roles such as wheel technician and factory workers.

    Six of the 13 wore masks during their appearance in court.

    Judge Michael Walsh granted bail to all of the defendants on conditions including directing that they abide by Covid-19 regulations, that they stay within their 5km areas and that they do not participate in any unlawful protests.

    The judge said the court recognised the right of people to protest but unlawful assembly for an unlawful purpose would not be tolerated.

    He granted bail to all of the defendants, most of them on condition that they lodge €100 in cash in court.

    They will all be back before Cloverhill District Court next week.

    It is understood the DPP is considering whether more serious charges should be preferred against any of the defendants.

    Gardaí say seven others were charged with offences and released on station bail.

    Three juveniles were released and will be considered for inclusion in the Juvenile Diversion Programme. ”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,301 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Some more details on the beliefs of the spelling challenged...lizard fighting... national party fans from yesterday...

    https://twitter.com/damienmulley/status/1365806692361977860?s=09


  • Closed Accounts Posts: 3,748 ✭✭✭ExMachina1000


    https://www.rte.ie/news/courts/2021/0228/1199811-dublin-protest-courts/
    What tickles me is that 6 of them wore masks in court!

    “ Thirteen people were brought before Dublin District Court last night, charged in connection with protests in Dublin city centre yesterday afternoon.

    The 12 men and one woman were brought before a special sitting of the court and charged with breaches of the Public Order Act.

    Some of the defendants were charged with multiple breaches of the Act while some face just one charge.

    The offences before the court included threatening, abusive and insulting behaviour, failing to comply with the direction of a garda, obstructing a garda and giving a false name or address.

    The offences were alleged to have taken place in various locations in the city centre including Grafton Street and O'Connell street.

    The youngest defendants were two 19-year-old men.

    The oldest was 59-year-old Fergus Cahill from Shankill in Co Dublin, whose 25-year-old son, Caoilte, was also before the court, with both facing three public order charges each.

    The defendants also included 26-year-old twin brothers.

    Those before the court also had addresses in Crumlin, Drimnagh, the south and north city centre and Finglas.

    One man was homeless, some are not working and others work in various roles such as wheel technician and factory workers.

    Six of the 13 wore masks during their appearance in court.

    Judge Michael Walsh granted bail to all of the defendants on conditions including directing that they abide by Covid-19 regulations, that they stay within their 5km areas and that they do not participate in any unlawful protests.

    The judge said the court recognised the right of people to protest but unlawful assembly for an unlawful purpose would not be tolerated.

    He granted bail to all of the defendants, most of them on condition that they lodge €100 in cash in court.

    They will all be back before Cloverhill District Court next week.

    It is understood the DPP is considering whether more serious charges should be preferred against any of the defendants.

    Gardaí say seven others were charged with offences and released on station bail.

    Three juveniles were released and will be considered for inclusion in the Juvenile Diversion Programme. ”

    "Those before the court also had addresses in Crumlin, Drimnagh, the south and north city centre and Finglas.

    One man was homeless, some are not working and others work in various roles such as wheel technician and factory workers"

    Was this part of the rte article? If so then it is pathetic journalism from the state broadcaster


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 28,324 ✭✭✭✭drunkmonkey


    Because SF and PBP dont support these marches

    On the political spectrum who's left and right, I really don't know, I would have assumed SF/FF slightly to the right and FG a bit to the left or have we only one right wing party like the Nationalist party and everyone else is left.
    Drew Harris backtracked on mentioning the far left earlier so i'm assuming whether rightly or wrongly it was from political pressure, i.e no party wanted to be associated with their side.

    "However this morning, Mr Harris said that "despite initial indications, following further investigations, there is no corroborated evidence of extreme left factions being involved."

    He added: "The vast majority of those who took part belong to a number of factions including anti-vaccine, anti-mask and anti-lockdown far-right, far right groups, and those intent on trouble and disorder."
    https://www.irishexaminer.com/news/arid-40235006.html


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 3,130 ✭✭✭Rodin


    I've no operational experience of policing, but even I still know that having an unconfirmed number of people protesting against you, in a wide open space where you can do little to create a tactical advantage, is a fcuking stupid idea.

    :rolleyes:


    They put them in the street so they could control them properly.

    Kettling.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,233 ✭✭✭Be right back


    Anyone know if they arrested the man with the firework?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 12,499 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    "Those before the court also had addresses in Crumlin, Drimnagh, the south and north city centre and Finglas.

    One man was homeless, some are not working and others work in various roles such as wheel technician and factory workers"

    Was this part of the rte article? If so then it is pathetic journalism from the state broadcaster

    Oh, are you saying that RTE lied about where they lived and what their jobs were?

    Edit...sorry.. perhaps this will help..

    Oh, are ewe saying that RTE lyed about were they lived and watt there job where?


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,301 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    "Those before the court also had addresses in Crumlin, Drimnagh, the south and north city centre and Finglas.

    One man was homeless, some are not working and others work in various roles such as wheel technician and factory workers"

    Was this part of the rte article? If so then it is pathetic journalism from the state broadcaster
    Why? If it is factual should it not be reported? Looks pretty standard for that type of report tbh.
    What's your point?


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  • Posts: 5,917 ✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    GT89 wrote: »
    Whilst the person who fired the firework committed a criminal act and behaved like a thug and I will condemn that individual. The Garda response can only be described as utterly atrocious. Closing St.Stephens Green defied any reasonable logic.

    This meant the crowd was being crammed into a much smaller space on Grafton Street which could only be seen as a provocation meaning far worse consequences if there was to be any any trouble at the protest which did happen.

    If the protest had have been allowed to take place in Stephen's Green as originally intended the chances of trouble would have been reduced as 1. Stephen Green is larger open space meaning the chances of a crush were far lower and any individuals seeking to cause trouble could have easily been identified, removed and arrested. 2. Closing Stephen's Green was a provocation which only sought to anger protestors further thus increasing the possibility of trouble.

    Conclusion whoever made the decision to move to close Stephen's Green today should resign from their position in AGS. This decision risked the safety of members of AGS, the protestors and members of the general public who may have gotten caught up in today's events. Quite frankly it was lucky no one was killed today and that is no exaggeration and most of the blame has to be put down to the incompetence of AGS.

    The fact that the NP and similar strains of sh1te are a collection of c*nts and the mentally challenged is why yesterday ended up as it did nothing else.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 52,140 ✭✭✭✭tayto lover


    Seven of those arrested wore masks in court.


    That gave me a great chuckle.
    Do they even know what they were protesting about.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 24,060 ✭✭✭✭pjohnson


    Seven of those arrested wore masks in court.


    That gave me a great chuckle.
    Do they even know what they were protesting about.

    They should probably be demanding an education, rather than anti-lockdown.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 6,233 ✭✭✭Be right back


    pjohnson wrote: »
    They should probably be demanding an education, rather than anti-lockdown.

    Hopefully they might learn the difference between 'there' and 'their'.


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 33,301 ✭✭✭✭gmisk


    Hopefully they might learn the difference between 'there' and 'their'.
    When they are talking about reptilians....and rte killing babies to harvest "adrenochrome" to keep the talent looking young....I think you might be out of luck...


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 9,597 ✭✭✭Red Silurian


    On the political spectrum who's left and right, I really don't know,

    Essentially

    Right wing: National party/Irexit etc etc, Fianna Fail, Fine Gael, Labour, Greens, Renua

    Left Wing: Sinn Fein, PBP, Socialists, Social Democrats


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 41,096 ✭✭✭✭Annasopra


    gmisk wrote: »
    When they are talking about reptilians....and rte killing babies to harvest "adrenochrome" to keep the talent looking young....I think you might be out of luck...

    And the babies RTE supposedly kills buried under the National Childrens Hospital
    The Nal wrote: »
    Im glad we have people like Erica watching our backs

    1.jpg

    It was so much easier to blame it on Them. It was bleakly depressing to think that They were Us. If it was Them, then nothing was anyone's fault. If it was us, what did that make Me? After all, I'm one of Us. I must be. I've certainly never thought of myself as one of Them. No one ever thinks of themselves as one of Them. We're always one of Us. It's Them that do the bad things.

    Terry Pratchet



  • Posts: 0 [Deleted User]


    From another site (name blocked out) “ Among the protesters was Xxxxxx, a mother of one from Swords, who was drinking a can of Heineken while holding a flyer from the National Party. P and her friend S wore matching black hoodies which said “RTE sold there [sic] souls” and “Save our children from the reptilians”.

    P said she was protesting against the lockdown and vaccines. “We’re here to protest against RTE as well,” she added. Her friend said over “9,000 people went missing in Ireland last year”.

    Asked how this was linked to RTE, the pair outlined a conspiracy theory that involved babies being killed and harvested for “adrenochrome” which is used to keep RTE celebrities “looking young” while the corpses are buried under the new children’s hospital.

    The two claimed the government were “basically paedophiles” and that there were videos explaining this on a website known for hosting far-right speakers and conspiracy theories.

    Flyers handed out at the protest promoted theories about 5G causing Covid. They also said that the pandemic was a “plan” to depopulate the world and create a “high-tech totalitarian world”.”


  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 13,565 ✭✭✭✭hotmail.com


    Essentially

    Right wing: National party/Irexit etc etc, Fianna Fail, Fine Gael, Labour, Greens, Renua

    Left Wing: Sinn Fein, PBP, Socialists, Social Democrats

    Sinn Fein aren't left wing.


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  • Registered Users, Registered Users 2 Posts: 2,999 ✭✭✭Eggs For Dinner


    " Your duty is to defend the Constitution"
    " It's a public road"
    "I know my rights"
    "You're scum"

    Try that nonsense in a lot of major cities and you would be baton charged and water cannoned and rightly so. Too soft in this country dealing with assholes


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