An Garda Síochána - COVID19

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

This is the reason given in the Garda statement.

These arrests occurred in Kildare, Kerry and County Cork in respect of persons for failing to comply with Garda directions under section 31(a)(7) Health Act 1947, as amended,” a statement revealed.

You are saying I am assuming something but at the same time making your own assumptions while disregarding the statement from ags.

From garda.ie

"In respect of regulations which are declared to be Penal Regulations under the Health Act 1947 as amended, An Garda Síochána adopts the approach of the Four Es which sees Gardaí engage, educate, encourage, and as a last resort, enforce. Where Gardaí find potential breaches of the public health regulations a file is prepared for the DPP in each case.

While An Garda Síochána will seek to encourage people to maintain the necessary public health measures, it will intervene where there is non-compliance with public health regulations"

Power of enforcement
What happened to Drew Harris' "Four Es"

Gardai have powers through the back door and exercised them on this occasion but did nothing in leitrim.

Why not? What's different?

I understand that you need to tow the party line but the rest of us dont.

So that's a no then. You can't. That's fine. No need to continue.

maestroamado

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

I'm interested in discussion with people that know the subject and I'm interested in learning something new. It's why I might read many threads but don't post. Because I can't offer any insight but I certainly learn.

On this issue, that's you except you consider yourself qualified to tell the professionals that they are wrong. Off to the medical section with ya.

Yes your a bully when you get challenged.
I am not supposed to know, its not my job.
BTW this is a forum not a courthouse...

ExMachina1000

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

So that's a no then. You can't. That's fine. No need to continue.

The toys have been thrown from the garda livery emblazoned pram.

There is another protest on st Patrick's day. I'm sure those manning the ring of the checkpoints approaching Dublin wont be making up their own set of rules and arresting people for refusing to turn back.

ExMachina1000

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

The toys have been thrown from the garda livery emblazoned pram.

There is another protest on st Patrick's day. I'm sure those manning the ring of the checkpoints approaching Dublin wont be making up their own set of rules and arresting people for refusing to turn back.

When you can produce the evidence we shall discuss further

Baggly

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

So that's a no then. You can't. That's fine. No need to continue.

ExMachina1000 wrote: »

The toys have been thrown from the garda livery emblazoned pram.

There is another protest on st Patrick's day. I'm sure those manning the ring of the checkpoints approaching Dublin wont be making up their own set of rules and arresting people for refusing to turn back.

Mod

Quit the bickering or ignore each other; either way you need to improve the standard of posting in relation to how you are discussing this topic with each other.

ExMachina1000

To be fair I don't think either of us are too bothered by what the other is writing.
Both sets of heels are well dug in but nobody is overly upset.

Water off ducks backs

Baggly

No issue with moving on, then?

ExMachina1000

Baggly wrote: »

No issue with moving on, then?

Not really.

Wednesday's planned protest and garda counter strategy is coming though so we might revisit

Baggly

Ill free up my Wednesday evening (not specific to you two, just in general )

ExMachina1000

Baggly wrote: »

Ill free up my Wednesday evening (not specific to you two, just in general )

Hopefully it will be a damp squib all the same

maestroamado

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

I'm interested in discussion with people that know the subject and I'm interested in learning something new. It's why I might read many threads but don't post. Because I can't offer any insight but I certainly learn.

On this issue, that's you except you consider yourself qualified to tell the professionals that they are wrong. Off to the medical section with ya.

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/m50-chase-woman-gemma-greene-23707012

This is what the criminal has to say.
I would say the court day will be a circus.... I am thinking these charged likely be dropped....

Stripeyman

I am thinking these charged likely be dropped....[/quote]

Why would they be dropped?

maestroamado

Stripeyman wrote: »

I am thinking these charged likely be dropped....

Why would they be dropped?[/QUOTE]

I do not think Gardai want to have dozens of Gardai giving evidence.
Then there be the video stuff and unlikely conviction considering the
over-use of force on one woman...

maestroamado

maestroamado wrote: »

I do not think Gardai want to have dozens of Gardai giving evidence.
Then there be the video stuff and unlikely conviction considering the
over-use of force on one woman...

What video stuff? Do you know how court operates? You dont just download a youtube video as evidence ffs!

Have you now decided that the use of force was not reasonable? Based on what expertice / training / experience? Are you a member of GSOC?

Gardai attend court every single day for trials. There need not be every single Garda present. The state doesnt have to produce them all, they can produce the main 5 or 6 and thats enough.

Of course the bloody trial will go ahead. Really, one of the worst opinions I have encountered outside of a Freeman

Witcher

maestroamado wrote: »

I do not think Gardai want to have dozens of Gardai giving evidence.
Then there be the video stuff and unlikely conviction considering the
over-use of force on one woman...

The lead car will have been designated the co-ordinator of the pursuit, it's these Gardai that will give evidence of her driving.

You haven't a clue, just stop.

maestroamado

We have free speach I think?

Witcher

maestroamado wrote: »

We have free speach I think?

Speach? No

Speech? Yes, and you're using it to peddle ridiculous claims without any basis in fact.

maestroamado

What claims did I make?

Witcher

maestroamado wrote: »

What claims did I make?

maestroamado wrote: »

I do not think Gardai want to have dozens of Gardai giving evidence.
Then there be the video stuff and unlikely conviction considering the
over-use of force on one woman...

maestroamado wrote: »

https://www.irishmirror.ie/news/irish-news/m50-chase-woman-gemma-greene-23707012

This is what the criminal has to say.
I would say the court day will be a circus.... I am thinking these charged likely be dropped....

.

maestroamado

That's not a claim, just comment on what i seen and read this morn.
Only time will tell if she convicted of anything.
Anyway she seems not to be fretting...

For my own sanity I think I will stop reading your takes

maestroamado

Niner leprauchan wrote: »

For my own sanity I think I will stop reading your takes

"game over"

runawaybishop

maestroamado wrote: »

That's not a claim, just comment on what i seen and read this morn.
Only time will tell if she convicted of anything.
Anyway she seems not to be fretting...

Getting convictions isn't the issue, the problem is actually making people carry out any sort of sentence.

maestroamado

runawaybishop wrote: »

Getting convictions isn't the issue, the problem is actually making people carry out any sort of sentence.

Would this be prison time offence?
I doubt it even if convicted...

elperello

maestroamado wrote: »

Would this be prison time offence?
I doubt it even if convicted...

It depends on the offences she is charged with.

maestroamado

elperello wrote: »

It depends on the offences she is charged with.

Being silly hardly jail time?

spring lane jack

elperello wrote: »

It depends on the offences she is charged with.

Depends on her previous if any, If she gets locked up she will get Temporary Release quickly as we don't have much space in the women's prisons.

elperello

maestroamado wrote: »

Being silly hardly jail time?

spring lane jack wrote: »

Depends on her previous if any, If she gets locked up she will get Temporary Release quickly as we don't have much space in the women's prisons.

I wasn't speculating about the likely outcome just pointing out that the availability of a jail term in sentencing depends on the charge.

Of course all relevant factors will be considered by the justice.

Killinator

maestroamado wrote: »

Being silly hardly jail time?

Why do you keep downplaying it. It wasn't some 12 year old kicking his football into his neighbours yard.

She's been charged with dangerous driving so far which does carry possible prison and more charged may be preferred when she gets to court

questionmark?

I look forward to her solicitor saying she has shown remorse for her actions!!