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An Garda Síochána - COVID19

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  • Registered Users Posts: 710 ✭✭✭TefalBrain


    Great to see the Gardai take control of the situation last night. Some absolute losers looking to cause trouble put in their place. More of this please.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,135 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    What did Barton do to deserve being charged at?

    Stop acting the maggot!!


  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Am I mistaken or did you not say you are a member, on previous posts,!of The Gardai?

    No.
    I have never ever said such a thing.
    I'm an anonymous poster on boards.


  • Registered Users Posts: 68,317 ✭✭✭✭seamus


    The main issue here was their decision to come out in force this weekend to ensure big groups didn't gather.

    A load of bored scumbags saw this as a good opportunity to get into a scrap with the Gardai and made their way into town. A self-fulfilling prophecy.

    They need to step back the response for the rest of the weekend. Have Gardai on standby, but the majority of visible Gardai should just be on patrol, not standing in groups blocking streets and moving people on.

    The lesser of two evils is a few busy streets.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,168 ✭✭✭ypres5


    kowloonkev wrote: »
    We are just seeing the true face of Ireland because it is now outside instead of hidden away inside. Alcohol is a scourge. The Irish have always been unable to control themselves with alcohol and the international reputation is well earned. Pathetic really.

    Found Tony H's boards account


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  • Registered Users Posts: 10,519 ✭✭✭✭tom1ie


    namloc1980 wrote: »
    What did Barton do to deserve being charged at?

    Lol!! Oops!
    Warren Barton was a terrible player though.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,896 ✭✭✭sabat


    There was still a lot fewer people in town last night than you'd see on any normal weekend. How many arrests are there on an average Saturday? Remember the Christmas psy-op? "Oh look we gave you your freedom back and it's those irresponsible people who ruined things for everybody." Or the Grafton St "riot" where gardaí set out to create flash points and were hyper-aggressive from the beginning? These are deliberate tactics being deployed by the state against the public.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,286 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    Pretty much everyone on twitter is outraged at the Garda over this. I wonder maybe if they should have just dealt with individuals and groups instead of shutting the whole place down? Should they not be policing it in a manner where it's not able to kick off?
    I mean anyone with any sense knew that little knackers would be kicking off in these circumstances.
    Does anyone really want to be sat outside eating or drinking when there's gangs of grey tracksuit bottomed youths all over the place?


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,675 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Horrific scenes in dublin over the last few days caused by absolute scumbags completely disregarding the restrictions

    There was a famous guard years ago - some may have heard tell of him - “lugs brannagan”

    If only we had “lugs” commanding the guards these days


  • Registered Users Posts: 8,010 ✭✭✭Christy42


    sabat wrote: »
    There was still a lot fewer people in town last night than you'd see on any normal weekend. How many arrests are there on an average Saturday? Remember the Christmas psy-op? "Oh look we gave you your freedom back and it's those irresponsible people who ruined things for everybody." Or the Grafton St "riot" where gardaí set out to create flash points and were hyper-aggressive from the beginning? These are deliberate tactics being deployed by the state against the public.

    Wasn't Grafton Street the one with a firework being shot at the Gards or am I missing something here? A lot fewer people in town because a lot of the people going in were the ones looking for a fight.


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  • Posts: 18,749 ✭✭✭✭ [Deleted User]


    Horrific scenes in dublin over the last few days caused by absolute scumbags completely disregarding the restrictions

    There was a famous guard years ago - some may have heard tell of him - “lugs brannagan”

    If only we had “lugs” commanding the guards these days

    There would be a lot of gardai up in court on assault charges and the state would be handing out money as compensation left right and centre.
    Sounds good.


  • Banned (with Prison Access) Posts: 2,770 ✭✭✭GT89


    Strumms wrote: »
    Gardai are not creating law and disorder... people are choosing that path for themselves and they must bare the consequences.... if you put your hand in a tigers mouth you don’t complain to the tiger if it bites you.

    If you break the law, no point in complaining to the Gardai when they arrest you, or crack you over the head for your trouble.

    So it's perfectly acceptable for the Gardai to take alcohol off people, pour it on the street then throw the empty cans on the ground then blame young people for the litter. If they arrest induviduals for public order incidents fine as I say I support law and order but not closing down streets and areas.

    How would you like if you were walking home from Tesco with shopping in your hand only for the Gardai to search your bags take any alcohol out and pour it on the ground. That's what happened last night in Dublin cc.


  • Registered Users Posts: 56,135 ✭✭✭✭walshb


    GT89 wrote: »

    How would you like if you were walking home from Tesco with shopping in your hand only for the Gardai to search your bags take any alcohol out and pour it on the ground. That's what happened last night in Dublin cc.

    That is not what is happening, and this ludicrous comparison doesn’t change that!


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,474 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Christy42 wrote: »
    Wasn't Grafton Street the one with a firework being shot at the Gards or am I missing something here? A lot fewer people in town because a lot of the people going in were the ones looking for a fight.

    Sure wasn't that an undercover guard, a plant, a trojan horse?

    No?

    Must have been a scumbag then!


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    GT89 wrote: »
    So it's perfectly acceptable for the Gardai to take alcohol off people, pour it on the street then throw the empty cans on the ground then blame young people for the litter. If they arrest induviduals for public order incidents fine as I say I support law and order but not closing down streets and areas.

    How would you like if you were walking home from Tesco with shopping in your hand only for the Gardai to search your bags take any alcohol out and pour it on the ground. That's what happened last night in Dublin cc.

    The Bye-Laws do not permit AGS to intercept you on your way home from Tesco and confiscate your drinks.

    They do however allow AGS to confiscate drink from people drinking on the street.

    It's also worth noting that in the widely circulated video we did not see whether the Gardai later picked up the cans. If they didn't I would agree with you that they should have.


  • Registered Users Posts: 24,173 ✭✭✭✭Larbre34


    Sure wasn't that an undercover guard, a plant, a trojan horse?

    No?

    Must have been a scumbag then!

    Eh, yeah, he was charged, court date pending.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,835 ✭✭✭✭The Nal


    Horrific scenes in dublin over the last few days caused by absolute scumbags completely disregarding the restrictions

    Loving the videos of some of them getting KO'd. The lad getting laid out cold by the Oriental Emporium employee on Abbey St the best so far.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,984 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Just watching the week in politics RTE, as predicted, God love the youth, bizzare question "where are the youth representatives?", once indoor dining opens it will be all fine and dandy, who are these politicians kidding, at best the S***Bags would buy a bg mac and frys. Not enough bins (some that were supplied set on fire FFS) Peader Toibin just said, I don't blame the youth, an absolute Tool of the highest order.

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Moderators, Society & Culture Moderators Posts: 12,524 Mod ✭✭✭✭Amirani


    elperello wrote: »
    It's also worth noting that in the widely circulated video we did not see whether the Gardai later picked up the cans. If they didn't I would agree with you that they should have.

    They almost certainly didn't. Regardless, pouring alcohol all over the street is awful too and makes the place stink. If they're going to confiscate alcohol then put it in the ****ing bin and don't just throw it and the cans around the place.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,094 ✭✭✭✭elperello


    Amirani wrote: »
    They almost certainly didn't. Regardless, pouring alcohol all over the street is awful too and makes the place stink. If they're going to confiscate alcohol then put it in the ****ing bin and don't just throw it and the cans around the place.

    That is just conjecture on your part. We have no evidence that they didn't.

    The Gardai having confiscated the drinks had to dispose of it as they are hardly expected to walk around with an armful of cans.

    Placing the full cans in the bin could lead to them being recovered.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 2,639 ✭✭✭completedit


    The Garda themselves are just following orders, as one said last night 'it is what it is' but last night was an absolute disgrace. There was groups of teenagers drunk acting drunk, that was not grounds to close off parts ofthe city centre to people. The atmosphere was nice and jovial and there was a nice diversity of age groups enjoying the sights and sounds of normality.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Just watching the week in politics RTE, as predicted, God love the youth, bizzare question "where are the youth representatives?", once indoor dining opens it will be all fine and dandy, who are these politicians kidding, at best the S***Bags would buy a bg mac and frys. Not enough bins (some that were supplied set on fire FFS) Peader Toibin just said, I don't blame the youth, an absolute Tool of the highest order.

    I don’t blame the youth either. Must make me a tool too!

    They have sacrificed a lot for a few.


  • Registered Users Posts: 12,474 ✭✭✭✭Mr.Crinklewood


    Larbre34 wrote: »
    Eh, yeah, he was charged, court date pending.

    I know!!!!

    Charged because he was a scumbag.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,995 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    The Garda are just doing what they're told but last night was an absolute disgrace. There was groups of teenagers drunk acting drunk, that was not grounds to close off the city centre to people. The atmosphere was nice and jovial and there was a nice diversity of age groups enjoying the sights and sounds of normality.
    Witcher wrote: »
    Yeah sure leave them at it, they're not causing any harm.
    There are plenty of businesses on this street – and really nice, family owned businesses – hard working people who are being terrorised at their doors.

    “They’ve already suffered through an absolutely horrific, horrendous 15 months. They’re trying to get their businesses back open and they’re being terrorised and intimidated at their own doorstep. They’re being forced to close their businesses at 2pm on a Saturday
    The cleaning every morning,” she said. “We’ve had to bring staff in earlier every morning to make sure they are scrubbed up and that the pathway is clean for customers. It is a worry that this is costing us business. People using the streets as a public urinal is never pleasant.”

    https://www.irishtimes.com/news/ireland/irish-news/a-different-feel-in-dublin-city-firms-close-early-citing-staff-concerns-1.4585680?mode=amp

    Let the drunks run the place, fcuk other people apparently.

    Nice jovial atmosphere, while business owners wipe piss off their windows of a morning.


  • Registered Users Posts: 26,984 ✭✭✭✭Dempo1


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    I don’t blame the youth either. Must make me a tool too!

    They have sacrificed a lot for a few.

    Perhaps

    What exactly have youth sacrificed exactly (God Bless them) that the rest of population hasn't and if they have, does this justify the dispicable behaviour on the streets or are you suggesting that perfectly acceptable? Pretty grim argument

    Is maith an scáthán súil charad.




  • Registered Users Posts: 23,746 ✭✭✭✭Kermit.de.frog


    The Nal wrote: »
    Loving the videos of some of them getting KO'd. The lad getting laid out cold by the Oriental Emporium employee on Abbey St the best so far.


    https://twitter.com/HopClear/status/1401182528380162052

    This one? Sure this stuff happens day in day out around the city center.

    This is the image of Dublin going out these days. And the sad thing is it's an accurate one. Video after video. It's mismanagement and feckless attitude to scumbags that has the place the way it is.

    I agree with the poster previously who said it really started going down in a big way when the city was intentionally turned in to junky ville with all the clinics in a tight radius of O'Connell St.

    Like flies on sh!t, with the tone and atmosphere pulled down enough, the rest follows on.

    Businesses and residents have been telling this story for years and years.

    What's happening now is the display of all these social problems that have not been addressed.

    It has very little to do with Covid or restrictions. Problem is MUCH deeper. Covid just accelerated it. It was always there bubbling away.


  • Registered Users Posts: 15,675 ✭✭✭✭Beechwoodspark


    Would fully agree. It’s a huge problem that has been allowed fester for decades at this stage.


  • Registered Users Posts: 14,286 ✭✭✭✭Thelonious Monk


    I was sent a video of a bloke getting knocked out in Connolly station, and 2 grey tracksuit bottomed blokes getting fully knocked out on the boardwalk yesterday by a Polish bloke (not sure of nationality).
    I think it was always this rough in Dublin just there's a bit more of it lately as things are opening up, maybe a bit more pent up frustration in youths, and of course it's all videoed now.
    I still think the Garda should be dealing with things better, like I can't go into town for a drink if I wanted because they aren't dealing with the troublemakers in an effective manner.


  • Registered Users Posts: 1,226 ✭✭✭Valhallapt


    Dempo1 wrote: »
    Perhaps

    What exactly have youth sacrificed exactly (God Bless them) that the rest of population hasn't and if they have, does this justify the dispicable behaviour on the streets or are you suggesting that perfectly acceptable? Pretty grim argument

    First of all a handful of people caused this issue, not all youth.

    They were the first pulled out of education, whilst nursing homes were left open, doing the opposite of that would have cut the death rate by half and not damaged educational attainment, and long term prospects.

    Most of the “scrotes” were born into socioeconomic deprivation, they didn’t win the gene pool lottery. Their support services were cancelled first.

    The service industry is disproportionately served by young people, bar & staff tend to be younger.

    They were told from the start that the virus doesn’t hurt them, but hold firm for the greater good, which they largely did, but with 3 million jabs been given out they are still not allowed to socialise a little outside.

    Tony holohan singled them out for hate on Twitter.

    They have played by the rules for 18 months under what has been a shambolic management of the virus, with the most strict lockdown in Europe, with the EU and several ambassadors having to tell the Irish government to relax the authoritarian actions.

    They held firm, let them have their day in the sun.

    Handle the scrotes no different than how they were handled pre pandemic. Don’t baton charge the first group of young people you see.


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  • Registered Users Posts: 14,995 ✭✭✭✭Witcher


    Valhallapt wrote: »
    .
    Most of the “scrotes” were born into socioeconomic deprivation, they didn’t win the gene pool lottery.

    Ah here, get out of here with that shit, there are opportunities for anyone who wants them in this country. Most just choose the easy route of being scum and hanging around with the same degenerates all their life.

    Some, a minority unfortunately, make something of themselves.

    'Deprivation' lol


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